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Title: New fuel disproves Quantum Theory?
Post by: Taristin on November 12, 2005, 11:04:11 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1627424,00.html

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Fuel's paradise? Power source that turns physics on its head

· Scientist says device disproves quantum theory
· Opponents claim idea is result of wrong maths

Alok Jha, science correspondent
Friday November 4, 2005
The Guardian

It seems too good to be true: a new source of near-limitless power that costs virtually nothing, uses tiny amounts of water as its fuel and produces next to no waste. If that does not sound radical enough, how about this: the principle behind the source turns modern physics on its head.

i read this on torrentspy.com, so I have no idea to the credibility of the source...
Title: Re: New fuel disproves Quantum Theory?
Post by: Dark RevenantX on November 12, 2005, 11:16:15 pm
bull, I say
Title: Re: New fuel disproves Quantum Theory?
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 12, 2005, 11:18:49 pm
Quite likely no, as the guy has been claiming this for at least a decade.

May 2000: http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/blacklight_power_000522.html
And his patent (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=hydrino&OS=hydrino&RS=hydrino), from February 2000.
Title: Re: New fuel disproves Quantum Theory?
Post by: karajorma on November 13, 2005, 01:17:41 am
The Guardian is credible. Whether the discovery that they're talking about is or not is a completely different matter.
Title: Re: New fuel disproves Quantum Theory?
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 13, 2005, 02:04:47 am
None of us has questioned the Guardian. Instead, we're pointing out that the man is full of complete and utter bull****.  For one thing, look at his degrees: He's an MD and an Electrical Engineer (whether Bachelor's, Master's, or a Doctorate is unspecified, but I'm betting Bachelor's with a possibility of it being a Master's). This is the domain of theoretical physics and quantum mechanics, not physiology and EEs.
Title: Re: New fuel disproves Quantum Theory?
Post by: Janos on November 13, 2005, 05:19:35 am
Oh yes, it is complete bull****.
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/7/1/127/njp5_1_127.html

... unless mathmatics are wrong also!
Title: Re: New fuel disproves Quantum Theory?
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 13, 2005, 01:52:07 pm
There's also the fact that you'd really have no net energy gain.  Given the fact that a hydrogen atom will seek to return to its standard ground state, it would reabsorb the energy released.