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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: The Avenger on September 06, 2001, 02:46:00 pm
I was wondering appealing to volition to create a patch for all the modders and campaign makers (not to mension the mission makers) for freespace 2 so that it could improve the modderability of the game. But just when i thought about writing the email and start chatting to Adam (V) but then i realised what would want to be changed / improved so come on tell me what would u like to be in it?

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Thorn on September 06, 2001, 02:56:00 pm
does  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) have the rights to make a patch? or would they have to get permission from Intercrap to do it?
I know the ST: Armada Dev team made a patch after Activision broke them up... but they were still under employment by them...

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Alikchi on September 06, 2001, 02:58:00 pm
It's not going to happen.
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Shrike on September 06, 2001, 03:05:00 pm
So negative.....

Unfortunately, probably quite true.  I seriously doubt that you could get a patch from  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) unless one of the guys did it as a personal, unofficial project..... and the likelyhood of that is slim at best.
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: The Avenger on September 06, 2001, 03:08:00 pm
i said if i was interested in finding out what people wanted come on give us your sujestions

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Nico on September 06, 2001, 03:28:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
unless one of the guys did it as a personal, unofficial project..... and the likelyhood of that is slim at best.

Why not? there's a guy at digatal anvil, he's working on a mission editor fpr Starlancer during his spare time. Not going fast tho...
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Shrike on September 06, 2001, 03:38:00 pm
Yeah, and SL is like a year newer than FS2, and they've been waiting for that mission editor for like 10 months or something, and they're still waiting.  I'm not saying it's impossible, but you'd have to find one of the programmers at  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) who can and more important would do something like this... really, they've moved on.  Don't let that stop you, stranger things have happened, after all the worst they can do is say 'no'.
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Ace on September 06, 2001, 06:32:00 pm
Yes  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) could develop the patch, but it would have to go through Interplay QA in order to be official.

*That* is the tough part...

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Xelion on September 06, 2001, 08:45:00 pm
The Avenger asked for suggestions. Not comments, statements or answers towards the negligence of either company! So I would suggest you answer the question and stick to the topic as the moderators have implied many times before to the community.

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Sandwich on September 07, 2001, 05:00:00 am
I'd like to see numerous limitations removed, such as:

- player must be Alpha 1
- squadrons can only have 4 (or 6) ships
- targeting laser should be able to rack up kills
- KB/entry limit for ships.tbl and weapons.tbl

A number of other stuff as well:

- Scroll buttons in the Command Briefing text area!
- Enable the player to end a mission in a fighterbay as well as jumping out.
- A command-line option that will load up the specified mission immediatly; for dragging-'n-dropping missions onto the EXE, to help out all of us mission designers.
- A SEXP for certain actions depending on what fighter the player chose to fly.
- A SEXP to instruct capital ships to barrel-roll a certain number of degrees.
- Documentation on the "debug" SEXP, as well as including the "grant-promo/medal" SEXP's in the menus.
- Support for animated textures???
- Explanation of the various flags in the .TBL's

That's all I can think of ATM...

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: wEvil on September 07, 2001, 05:33:00 am
Id like to see us able to add our own cutscene codecs in instead of having to rely on that peice o crap SMK player.

Plus more extensibility in the beams department and perhaps the ability to put glow bitmaps on anything (make the shivan ships look waaay cooler anyway)



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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Nico on September 07, 2001, 06:29:00 am
mmh... I think you're asking more for an addon than a patch here...
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Falcon X on September 07, 2001, 04:47:00 pm
They also may be rusty on the code....
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Vertigo1 on September 08, 2001, 01:32:00 am
Another thing that would be nice is having lens flares applied to weapons (ie: weapons like a photon torpedo).

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: The Avenger on September 08, 2001, 12:46:00 pm
thanks max and keep em comming they sound interesting
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Sandwich on September 08, 2001, 03:43:00 pm
lol - this is more of a joke, but how about the ability to play the game in wireframe mode?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Vertigo1 on September 08, 2001, 10:53:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by sandwich:
lol - this is more of a joke, but how about the ability to play the game in wireframe mode?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Actually, you can!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) You'd just have to re-texture every model in the game with a wireframe texture.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Setekh on September 08, 2001, 11:08:00 pm
I wish they could include the option to allow the selection of enemy wings through the comm menu. Ie. Beta wing, attack Taurus wing, instead of Beta 1 take Taurus 1, Beta 2 take Taurus 2, etc. That bugged the hell out of me.
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Nico on September 09, 2001, 08:37:00 am
fixing the green colour bug for voodoo cards so I can use that in my models. That's a bug and should be corrected, after all.
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Vertigo1 on September 09, 2001, 11:50:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
fixing the green colour bug for voodoo cards so I can use that in my models. That's a bug and should be corrected, after all.

eh?  Please elaborate.

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Nico on September 10, 2001, 06:30:00 am
perfect green colour (0.255.0) ingame is supposed to be invisible, but voodoo based cards won't handle that and show... perfect green instead. You want to have something invisible and you end up with something supervisible  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: KillMeNow on September 10, 2001, 06:43:00 am
what about increasing the texture size from 256 to 512x512 and upping the number of ships allowed in a level at the same time - possibly allowing larger poly count for models and if possible make transparent textures so we can have real cockpits like in x-win aliiance -

the ability to fire beams from fighters as a primary weapon that drainen energy would be nice -

a beam shield intercpt -

the ability to change the weapon energy recharge rate -

the ability to have more to have 1 jump in and 1 jump out ani - and to be able to change the pof for the same

hmm thats all i can think of for now
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: DragonClaw on September 10, 2001, 06:45:00 am
 
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Originally posted by KillMeNow:
the ability to change the weapon energy recharge rate


You can... it's "Insert" and "Delete" if I remember correctly


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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: KillMeNow on September 10, 2001, 06:59:00 am
i ment in the tables -so you could have a weapon that fired 5 bolts of energy stoped  took about a sec to recharge the bank to 100% then could fire another 5 bolts - i tried to do this by reducing the energy pools down to 0.5 then than witha  weapon taking 0.1 tried it with less than that too and while the first 5 bolts fire nicely it takes the same time to recharge the bank as it would if the bank was at 18 certianly if there was a change it was minor and i need a good change to make burst fire work
Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Skippy on September 10, 2001, 02:34:00 pm
Just change the "Energy Use" value or something like that

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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Joey_21 on September 10, 2001, 03:01:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by sandwich:
I'd like to see numerous limitations removed, such as:

- player must be Alpha 1

Player doesn't have to be Alpha 1! It's just that FRED2 doesn't like the player in another wing, but it is possible!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)



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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Nico on September 10, 2001, 04:29:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Skippy:
Just change the "Energy Use" value or something like that


It doesn't work, I tried that too. whatever you set, the energy will come back at the same speed.

Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: joek on September 10, 2001, 04:33:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by sandwich:
- Enable the player to end a mission in a fighterbay as well as jumping out.

You can't do this as we'd all like, but you can already do this in a mock kinda way.

You just have to:
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But then having tried this lots of times I can see one of the reasons why they didn't include a return-to-hangar... after a long hard mission I'd rather just jump out then have to fly all the way back to a ship and air for a little hangar.

Joe.


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Title: What if we could get a patch for freespace 2?
Post by: Sandwich on September 10, 2001, 06:12:00 pm
About the returning to the hangar... I hate when your mothership is in the mission and at the end you get told to "Return to base"...

Joey_21, how'd you change the player ship? Editing the .FS2 file as text, etc? What does it affect in-game?

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