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Title: Superman Returns
Post by: BlackDove on November 18, 2005, 09:50:34 am
Right here (http://supermanreturns.warnerbros.com/)

Kevin Spacey is Lex, so that's promising.

God I hope they won't mess it up. Not that the Christopher Reeve ones were a grand success though...

The teaser trailer is pretty good though. It goes hand in hand with what I would've imagined a new movie about Superman would be like. And Marlon's script (what you hear during the trailer) pretty much immortalizes the whole idea Superman's about.

As a sidenote, Smallville has been progressing quite godly these past few episodes, especially the one yesterday. I wonder if perchance the movie will continue off from where the series ends in 2006?

Maybe not, since they can milk the series for at least 3 more seasons, but still, there seems to be collaboration between the new movie and the series, seeing how they both will follow the same pattern.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 18, 2005, 10:16:41 am
The trailer looks decent.

/me wishes the focus was on Kal-L, not Kal-El though. Golden Age Superman FTW.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: an0n on November 18, 2005, 11:01:28 am
It's going to suck so bad it may very well cause the entire DC universe to implode.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: BlackDove on November 18, 2005, 11:42:16 am
Eeeeeeehhhhhhhhh I kinda doubt that.

I mean it very well might, but it seems to have all the ingredients to be a solid movie.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: an0n on November 18, 2005, 11:58:27 am
So did AVP.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: pyro-manic on November 18, 2005, 12:24:36 pm
It'll be crap, like every other comic adaptation has been.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: an0n on November 18, 2005, 12:26:55 pm
Batman Begins was pretty good.

And I liked Fantastic Four.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Carl on November 18, 2005, 12:32:52 pm
The trailer looks decent.

/me wishes the focus was on Kal-L, not Kal-El though. Golden Age Superman FTW.

golden age superman was a dick.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 18, 2005, 12:34:13 pm
True, but so is the modern age Superman. At least the Golden Age Superman wasn't basically invulnerable (as opposed to being stunned by nuclear explosives, he was injured by artillery shells).
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Carl on November 18, 2005, 12:38:06 pm
It'll be crap, like every other comic adaptation has been.

so you didn't like X-men, Spider-man, or Batman Begins?
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: BlackDove on November 18, 2005, 12:52:04 pm
Legacy/Legend/Whatever productions are footing half of the bill for this one, just as they did for Batman Begins.

I doubt they'd be wasting their money if the movie was ****.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: ZylonBane on November 18, 2005, 12:59:09 pm
It'll be crap, like every other comic adaptation has been.
Are you TRYING to get people to just ignore everything you say?
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: pyro-manic on November 18, 2005, 01:23:45 pm
It'll be crap, like every other comic adaptation has been.

so you didn't like X-men, Spider-man, or Batman Begins?

Didn't particularly like those first two, haven't seen Batman Begins yet.

And just for Zylonbane's benefit, I'll rephrase. In my opinion, the likelihood of it being crap is quite high, as the overwhelming majority of comic adaptations have been less than impressive, to say the least.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 18, 2005, 01:35:04 pm
X2 was far better than X-Men, in my opinion, and I thought Batman Begins was quite good. Most others I have not enjoyed though.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Ulala on November 18, 2005, 02:35:16 pm
Meh, I can't say anything until I've seen it.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Janos on November 18, 2005, 03:12:23 pm
The trailer looks decent.

/me wishes the focus was on Kal-L, not Kal-El though. Golden Age Superman FTW.

Oh you mean the dick from Earth-2

Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 18, 2005, 03:33:24 pm
Yes. He was less of a retard, though only by a bit. For example, he married Lois, rather than doing stuff like this:
(http://www.superdickery.com/images/dick/1296_4_079.jpg)
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Cobra on November 18, 2005, 09:38:30 pm
le peeck ees dead.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 18, 2005, 11:06:56 pm
Only because it hates you.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Galemp on November 19, 2005, 12:31:41 am
This was originally going to be directed by Tim Burton, with Nicholas Cage as Superman. That would have kicked ass.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Night Hammer on November 19, 2005, 12:56:58 am
i cant really see Cage as superman, the Burton thing woulda been awesome though
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: BlackDove on November 19, 2005, 05:28:01 am
Burton's good for Batman to a point, but not for Superman.

And Cage as Superman? Kind of too old and bald, don't you tihnk?
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: IceFire on November 19, 2005, 08:15:14 am
Nice...could be good.  Superman was never my favorite but seems interesting enough.  I just saw Batman Begins a few days ago...superb movie.  X-Men was good but X2 came into its own.  I haven't seen some of the other comic book adaptations as I've heard they were not as good.

There are hits and misses and we'll see if this is a hit or not.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: ZylonBane on November 19, 2005, 09:54:27 am
This was originally going to be directed by Tim Burton, with Nicholas Cage as Superman. That would have kicked ass.
Sorry, looks like you misspelled "sucked ass" there. Tim Burton's Superman would have been a random, unfocused, self-indulgent mess, just like Batman. The only thing that salvaged Batman was the production design and Jack Nicholson's "I know this script is stupid so I may as well chew the hell out of the scenery" performance.

Did you know that Burton (and his producer) had decided that Superman wasn't going to fly in his film? Yeah. Chew on that for a while.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Black Wolf on November 19, 2005, 10:27:59 am
The original Superman couldn't fly, nor was he affected by Kryptonite. Both were actually added by radio serials a few years after the comics first started. (Kryptonite was actually invented because Superman's voice actor wanted a week off, so they just got some dude to do some random moaning as superman got weaker and weaker thanks to kryptonite, while someone else saved the day).

Also, for the record, Sin City was a comic book adaptation. So yeah. All sucking arse, I think not.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: ZylonBane on November 19, 2005, 11:39:46 am
[colour=lookatmelookatme]The original Superman couldn't fly, nor was he affected by Kryptonite.[/colour]
The original Coca-Cola had cocaine in it. What's your point?
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: BlackDove on November 19, 2005, 12:07:28 pm
The original Superman couldn't fly, nor was he affected by Kryptonite. Both were actually added by radio serials a few years after the comics first started. (Kryptonite was actually invented because Superman's voice actor wanted a week off, so they just got some dude to do some random moaning as superman got weaker and weaker thanks to kryptonite, while someone else saved the day).

Also, for the record, Sin City was a comic book adaptation. So yeah. All sucking arse, I think not.


You do realise that there is no original "Superman" - right? Siegel was alive up until 1996 and partook in almost every incarnation of his creation.

There is only the primitive idiotic first concept and then the one later improved on and built on by as much reason and logic allowed it.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: an0n on November 19, 2005, 03:47:33 pm
The original Coca-Cola had cocaine in it. What's your point?
"**** was better in the 50's"?
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Ford Prefect on November 19, 2005, 05:09:27 pm
Superman is dumb, and I'm glad Tim Burton's genius was not wasted on him.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: ZylonBane on November 19, 2005, 05:25:35 pm
Yeah, isn't it so much better that his genius was wasted on Planet of the Apes and Corpse Bride?
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Janos on November 19, 2005, 06:43:00 pm
Yeah, isn't it so much better that his genius was wasted on Planet of the Apes and Corpse Bride?

Or Big Fish or Sleepy Hollow or Batman Returns.

Burton's style is suitable for certain areas, but I agree that he probably wouldn't have been the best guy to direct a Supermensch Scout Boy Man Krypton movie. His style is too different.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Mongoose on November 20, 2005, 01:11:35 pm
Looks like it has some potential.  Was that Anthony Hopkins doing the voiceover?
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: BlackDove on November 21, 2005, 06:47:41 am
:wtf:

Marlon Brando from the 1978 movie.
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 21, 2005, 11:17:11 am
The original Superman couldn't fly, nor was he affected by Kryptonite. Both were actually added by radio serials a few years after the comics first started. (Kryptonite was actually invented because Superman's voice actor wanted a week off, so they just got some dude to do some random moaning as superman got weaker and weaker thanks to kryptonite, while someone else saved the day).

Also, for the record, Sin City was a comic book adaptation. So yeah. All sucking arse, I think not.


You do realise that there is no original "Superman" - right? Siegel was alive up until 1996 and partook in almost every incarnation of his creation.

There is only the primitive idiotic first concept and then the one later improved on and built on by as much reason and logic allowed it.
Not quite. There were years in the middle where Siegel had no effect on it, and his name was in fact purged from the comic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Siegel
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: BlackDove on November 21, 2005, 11:20:29 am
M-hm, still doesn't change the fact that he was involved in the original incarnation as well as the current popular one (his last incarnation really).
Title: Re: Superman Returns
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 21, 2005, 11:56:18 am
And that really sums up most of his participation, with the exception of a bit in the middle of the Silver Age.

On an interesting side note, the ability to fly was actually added for the original Fleischmann (sp?) cartoons, as the jumping was deemed to not be exciting enough.