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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Col. Fishguts on November 21, 2005, 07:05:24 am

Title: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on November 21, 2005, 07:05:24 am
Well, I'm trying find further uses for my HOTAS setup besides FS2. And since it's been some time that I've played any jet fighters sim, I'd like to give it a try again.

Basically I'm looking for something like a modern version of "U.S. Navy Fighters".

What I'd like:

- Jet fighter age (that excludes all the WWII era sims, which I'm sure there are plenty of good ones)
- Something newer than USNF, but older than 2002/2003, so my machine can handle it easily (which rules out LOMAC)
- Carrier based operations are a must, I miss the thrill of carrier landings
- Option to fly several planes would be nice, but not necessary
- Complex simulation doesn't scare me away, but I lack the time for something as complex as Falcon 4.0

So far my googling has brought me leaning towards "Jane's F-18", but the reviews are somewhat mixed.

Now, I'm open for suggestions, as I'm sure some people here have played other sims I've probably never heard of. I'd like to hear especially if there's any decent Harrier sims worth playing, as I haven't found one, but flying the Harrier was a lot of fun in USNF.

So fire away.
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Wanderer on November 21, 2005, 08:24:11 am
SU-27 Flanker?
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Kosh on November 21, 2005, 08:46:22 am
Flanker 2.5 might be what you are looking for.
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Unknown Target on November 21, 2005, 10:01:04 am
Jane's F-18 is very good, and there was even a mod at one point to allow you to fly an F-14, although I'm not sure if it's still available.
If you don't mind not having carrier operations, Jane's F-15 is good as well. :)
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on November 21, 2005, 10:20:30 am
Hmm, I have the old Flanker 1.0, and while it's an excellent sim it's completely lacking in gameplay. And the reviews for Flanker 2 are even more varying than for Jane's F/A-18, but the graphics seem pretty.

I have Jane's F-15 on my old gaming machine in old-school Voodoo2-goodness. It kicks ass (given its age), but I really miss carrier action.
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Night Hammer on November 21, 2005, 10:25:53 am
wasnt there an F-22 sim that was pretty good? not sure there would be any carriers in there though
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 21, 2005, 01:48:24 pm
The only ones I consider good are older then that.

I do have an old Jetfighter I disk lying around. :P Jetfighter II and Falcon 3.0 Gold Edition (which included the Operation Fighting Tiger, Hornet, and MiG-29 expansions.) as well, somewhere. Before you get scared by the Falcon title, the realism is scalable. Graphically there are no two ways about it. They suck. First-generation 3D by far. But I loved the gameplay.

IMO MiG-29 is the greatest flight sim ever made. It had an interesting mix of ease and difficulty that made it so. Dogfighting was so much easier then with a Hornet or an F-16, or indeed anything else I'd tried to that point, because the sim included the ability of the MiG-29 for off-boresight missile launches...it's wonderful to be able to launch a heatseeker up somebody's tailpipe without having to get him into your forward arc. On the other hand, ground attack is a whole different ballgame. Have you ever tried a SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defences) mission with only those Kh-23 beam-rider missiles and iron bombs? It's nuts, a fight for your life every step of the way, but damn fun.
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Cobra on November 21, 2005, 02:53:44 pm
JetFighter 3, Total Air War (not entirely good graphics, but it has some decent gameplay) and... when did F/A-18 (forgot which one) Operation Iraqi Freedom come out?
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: General Freak on November 21, 2005, 03:28:26 pm
YEAH! Jetfigher 3 was actually a really good game (but, er, they only claimed it to be a simulator, but it really is more of a complex arcade thingy). ;p
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Scuddie on November 21, 2005, 04:28:00 pm
Try F-22 Lightning 3.  It was good, but it pales in comparison to Jane's Combat Simulations.

RIP Jane's :(.
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Nuke on November 21, 2005, 07:05:44 pm
im looking for a fairly realistic chopper sim myself. all the ones ive played have been too unrealistic.
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: DeepSpace9er on November 23, 2005, 06:53:09 am
Seems like this whole genre has shrivled up to make way for the ever expanding FPS market. Quite sad actually
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Deepblue on November 23, 2005, 07:56:08 am
Does LOMAC have carrier landings?
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on November 23, 2005, 10:11:25 am
Does LOMAC have carrier landings?

I'd say so, yes. (http://lo-mac.com/ss/carrier_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: General Freak on November 23, 2005, 10:57:21 am
Well, you can
im looking for a fairly realistic chopper sim myself. all the ones ive played have been too unrealistic.
What about Longbow 2?
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: achtung on November 23, 2005, 12:11:25 pm
im looking for a fairly realistic chopper sim myself. all the ones ive played have been too unrealistic.

Comacnche Gold?
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Nuke on November 23, 2005, 02:58:50 pm
i think i played comanche but it was to arcadeish, didnt have realistic torque physics it was more or less point and shoot. never played longbow. flightsim 98 had good choppers but it wasnt a combat sim.
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on November 25, 2005, 01:13:26 pm
Longbow 2 is the way to go for realistic helo action.

I also found those upgrades to Jane's F/A-18 that UT mentioned: http://tsh.war-fighters.net/install/ Quite amazing stuff they have there :yes:
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: sinner6 on December 13, 2005, 06:43:27 pm
Enemy Engaged: Comanche/Havoc (EECH) is now open source and is undergoing a revival similar to FS2.  This is a great, realistic helo sim with a dynamic campaign.

Get more info in the EECH forum at SimHQ.   
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Kosh on December 14, 2005, 12:15:10 am
Here is a better one:


Raiden II  :p
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Scuddie on December 14, 2005, 01:30:06 am
Raiden DX > Raiden II
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Windrunner on December 14, 2005, 07:46:31 am
at the moment i am playing Ace Combat 5 on PS2 (yeah, i am playing it on a consol), and i am hooked. I like the graphics and the dogfights are awesome.
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 14, 2005, 08:38:27 am
Galaga!  :p
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Turnsky on December 14, 2005, 09:42:44 am
at the moment i am playing Ace Combat 5 on PS2 (yeah, i am playing it on a consol), and i am hooked. I like the graphics and the dogfights are awesome.
you're telling me
 :drevil:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/The%20Pad/DSC00528.jpg)
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Windrunner on December 14, 2005, 03:06:45 pm
LOL looks like you have been busy
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Turnsky on December 14, 2005, 08:05:44 pm
LOL looks like you have been busy

you'll want to click this, then (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sim/acecombatzero/news.html?sid=6141209&mode=previews)
Title: Re: Good jet fighter sims ?
Post by: Windrunner on December 15, 2005, 03:04:44 am
LOL looks like you have been busy

you'll want to click this, then (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sim/acecombatzero/news.html?sid=6141209&mode=previews)

i defently want that. :)