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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Carl on September 16, 2001, 09:30:00 pm
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(http://www.warpstorm.com/ubb/uploads/1000697520.jpg) probably looked something like that.
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Cool FX Carl, though I don't remember the SD Lucifer blasting a lightning bolt onto Vasuda Prime.
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it's the SSL, but i guess it is a bit jagged now that i think of it. but art > realism.
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Wasent Vasuda prime a desert plannet?
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Ouch... and it did that for 13 hours straight.
Anyone here ever play MOO2? (hee-hee-hee, terraforming with plasma cannons!)
[This message has been edited by jonskowitz (edited 09-16-2001).]
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh please telll me how you did that - thats great
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Awesome, dude! All it needs now is that eerie close-up pic of the Shivan face in some of the unused (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) pics. Hehehe (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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looks cool dude (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Funny, while I was away, I wanted to post about that. On the command briefing, we clearly see that the beam that fries that city is white/blue (otherwise I'm colourblind lol). So it can't be the main Luci beams... What's the weapon shivan used?
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That looks pretty nice. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Oh and yes Venom, that occurred to me once or twice in the past - I think I know one possibility. In space, the beam is an orange hue - but under atmospheric conditions (like so many other things), the SSL's appearance changes, taking on a bluey-white colour. Possible... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Oh and yes Venom, that occurred to me once or twice in the past - I think I know one possibility. In space, the beam is an orange hue - but under atmospheric conditions (like so many other things), the SSL's appearance changes, taking on a bluey-white colour. Possible... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Leave it to Setekh to rationalize the unrationable (sp?)... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
In space, the beam is an orange hue - but under atmospheric conditions (like so many other things), the SSL's appearance changes, taking on a bluey-white colour.....
..... as it ionized the air and emits Cherenkov radiation, which is blue.
[This message has been edited by Shrike (edited 09-17-2001).]
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Originally posted by Shrike:
..... as it ionized the air and emits Cherenkov radiation, which is blue.
that would only happen if it traveled faster than light does in air.
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And who says it doesn't? After all, it's what makes up the beam that's important, not the beam itself.
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Question: So was the planet completely destroyed? or just rendered uninhabitable,if not, are vasudans back on it?
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A lightning or electrical arc also appears blue within an atmosphere. If the super-duper planet buster gun on Lucy is a particle beam then the following law applies (don't remember the name of it , dammit! must be getting old).
"...Any group of charged particles travelling in the same direction through another medium will behave as an electric current..."
Yikes! Can you just imagine what that sucker would do to the planet's powergrid (ignoring the hellish devestation wrought by the release of terrawatts of energy on the planet itself). Any part of the planet NOT flattened would be reduced to stone age existance anyway.
If I remember the command briefing corrently, the planet itself was not destroyed, but intense radiation from the bombardment rendered the vast majority of the surface completely uninhabitable. It was not my impression that this had changed by the time of FS2 (it's only been 32 years, how long was it postulated it would take the Earth to recover from a nuclear war? Over a hundred?)
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Originally posted by Red5:
Question: So was the planet completely destroyed? or just rendered uninhabitable,if not, are vasudans back on it?
It was rendered uninhabitable by the Lucifer. The Vasudan capital is now Aldebarran. (They had to pick somewhere! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif))
Originally posted by Dr.Zer0:
Wasent Vasuda prime a desert plannet?
No. Vasudans evolved from an aquatic species (or if they didn't, they damned well look like they did) and so much of Vasuda prime was a semi-ocean world.
Or am I talking rubbish?
Vasudans, your input please! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Vasuda was a mostly desert world, but obviously had SOME water, or a species would have a hella hard time evolving there.
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According to FS1, there was some toxic water plans on Vasuda. I always wondered how the vasudan could have evolved on that. Toxic water, even for vasudan standards, it is said... So were did they take water?
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Jabu's right, evolution is Hella hard when there's no water. One theory is (for life on Earth) that the first life was single-celled (obviously), and fed off the nutrient-rich mineral flows coming out of mid-atlantic ridges.
These came together, formed multi-cellular animals - then some realised that there was energy to be had from the sun, and the communities developed photosynthesis over millions of years. After that, plants could grow onto the shore from the sea - and animals came a long time after, also from the sea. Eventually, the animals too realised that there was food and energy to be found elsewhere - this time not from the sun, but from the onshore plants. So from fish to amphibians to full-blown air-breathing creatures, we got our first land animals. And then came the Vasudans, who wuv the fishies. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by jonskowitz:
...vast majority...
AHHH!!! He said it!!! Heeeelllpp!!!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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if you read the (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) FSRB, Vasudans lived like the Fremen in Dune... minus the Shai-hulud...
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Originally posted by Red5:
Question: So was the planet completely destroyed? or just rendered uninhabitable,if not, are vasudans back on it?
If the GTVA wanted to funnel money into re-opening the Sol node, it would probably annoy the Vasudans a wee bit - So I reckon if it was to happen, they'd probably invest the smae anmount of resources in Terra-forming Vasuda Prime, to appease the vasudans.
I haven't actually got to the bit where Lucy destroys Vas Prime, though - I'm at the mission where you have to try and capture one of the Shivans fastest, most agile fighters on an attack on a fighter repair depot.(bloody idiotic, if you ask me).
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Catching Arjuna 1, right? Hoo boy... just you wait till the next mission. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Catching Arjuna 1, right? Hoo boy... just you wait till the next mission. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Actually, doesn't it strike you as a bit odd that a species that can blow up 10-20 Sathanas juggernauts with a supernova has a repair facility for fighters?
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Originally posted by aldo_14:
Actually, doesn't it strike you as a bit odd that a species that can blow up 10-20 Sathanas juggernauts with a supernova has a repair facility for fighters?
I think the sathans destroyed were "accidents"
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Originally posted by venom2506:
I think the sathans destroyed were "accidents"
More then you know, dude. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) {/SOpO p1mp}
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they couldn't jump out. those artifical jump nodes created right before a supernova are unpredictable.
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Originally posted by sandwich:
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Originally posted by Red5:
Question: So was the planet completely destroyed? or just rendered uninhabitable,if not, are vasudans back on it?
According to Awakenings (a quite good FS1 campaign), Project Genesis was a successful attempt to reclaim some of the lost landmass. They couldnt get more than about 20% though, because so much of the surface was remolecularized by the intense energy from the SSL and there wasn't nearly enough fertile land (even by Vasudan standards) or water, to do any more.
officially, there is no mention.
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Originally posted by Carl:
they couldn't jump out. those artifical jump nodes created right before a supernova are unpredictable.
Either that or the age-old comm node destruction theory... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)