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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: WeatherOp on January 05, 2006, 03:21:25 pm
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http://www.wunderground.com/blog/cyclonebuster/comment.html?entrynum=0&tstamp=200601
Ok, this guy shows up at our WX forum pushing this idea.
He states using the Pascal and Bernoulli theory, he can weaken hurricanes, by placing huge pipes underwater in the Gulf Stream that using pressure would suck up the colder water and bring it to the surface. Bringing the surface temp of an summer average of 80+ degrees and cooling it down to 70 degrees. He then states that it would cool down the whole Gulf Stream from Mexico to New England in 9 days, then once the hurricane weakens over the cooler water, turn off the pipes and in a few days the whole GS is back to normal.
Now I have no idea where he got this whacked out idea from, but clearly from his posts he knows near nothing about Hurricanes, and his motive is that Hurricane Andrew destroyed his house 13 years ago.
He then goes on to state that it would not harm wildlife because the water temps are on at there winter levels.What on earth is he thinking? :ick: I then later discover that he has posted the same thing on several Nature forums around the net.
I've herd some strange theorys on weakening hurricanes, like cloud seeding, however this is by far the most strangest I've every seen. He also states that this would stop tornados from forming in the great plains. :lol:
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Errr... Well, you can tell him that the residents of the UK rather like the Gulf Stream the temperature it is, thanks :p You don't go screwing around with one of the major heat transference systems on the globe ;)
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I know next to jack **** about hurricanes, but if heat was transfered in that method, it would cause the whole world to become hurricane territory, no?
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They should just nuke hurricanes.
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Walls keep the drafts out.
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Why not just use a giant fan to blow the hurricanes away?
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Errr... Well, you can tell him that the residents of the UK rather like the Gulf Stream the temperature it is, thanks :p You don't go screwing around with one of the major heat transference systems on the globe ;)
I'm glad we're both on the same wavelength here... I like my mild rain and constant cloud cover. No ice age for me thanks!
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hehe Anyway, didn't recent studies show that the Gulf Stream is actually getting cooler of it's own accord, a fact I found quite un-nerving, since this was predicted about 4 years ago on the Discovery channel, since, as the polar glaciers melt, they are reducing the salinity of the water in the area, which is having some kind of effect on it's ability to transfer energy, or something like that.
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Cooling isn't the right word really. What happens is that hot water from the south reaches the north and cools. As it cools the now cold water sinks down. This has the effect of sucking more warm water in from the south. The salinity of the water also has a similar effect as salty water is more dense than fresh water. Due to evaporation the gulf stream becomes more salty as it heads north.
The problem is that the water coming from the melting ice caps is displacing the warm water from the south. Since this water is already cold it doesn't sink. Since it's fresh water it also cancels out the effect of the evaporation as the gulf stream travelled north. This means that with nothing to suck the water in the gulf stream is shutting down.
Ironically in my limited capabilities as a climatologist I can see this causing worse hurricanes for the US. If you stop the efficiency of the Gulf's main heat exchange system you'll end up with more energy to go into those hurricanes.
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Errr... Well, you can tell him that the residents of the UK rather like the Gulf Stream the temperature it is, thanks :p You don't go screwing around with one of the major heat transference systems on the globe ;)
We likes it too here in Finland right the way it is.
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Why not just use a giant fan to blow the hurricanes away?
What I was wondering. :lol:
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They should just nuke hurricanes.
and the whales.
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They should just nuke hurricanes.
I actually wonder what that would do. Make it a clean bomb, very low radioactive fallout, explode it at a high altitude...
...or, if the fallout is still a major issue, use a MOAB.
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Hurricanes happen for a reason. A better solution is to not live in a trailer on a coast frequented by hurricanes.
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They should just nuke hurricanes.
I actually wonder what that would do. Make it a clean bomb, very low radioactive fallout, explode it at a high altitude...
...or, if the fallout is still a major issue, use a MOAB.
The issue isn't fallout, the issue is the following EMP which would severely damage electronic gadgets. US tested a high-altitude nuclear burst in 1960s (if my memory serves me right) and it caused minor problems and issues from Washington to Hawaii.
Great.
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A smaller nuke then? The whole point is to dispell the hurricane pattern - not to EMP or kill it.
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THe best way to destroy a hurricane would be the way land does it, and mountains do it very well, as Kal said disrupt the core of the storm, the Low pressure. Shutting of it's moisture supply.
However I would caution setting of a clean Nuke inside of a hurricane, cause while it might disrupt it for the moment. On the latter half it would turn a ton of seawater into water vapor, and while warming the ocean up a very good bit, then add in the lower pressure the bomb might add. The end result might be a stronger, larger cyclone. :nervous:
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Indeed, that energy will always find a way to reassert itself, and theres a hell of a lot of energy in a Hurricane.