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Title: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 09, 2006, 03:59:10 pm
I had quite a few things happened to me in the last few months of year 2005.  First, I came down with a bad flu followed by a horrible cough that gave me chest pain.  Then, I got my braces and was not able to eat and sleep properly for a couple of weeks because of the pain and soreness.  Finally, just 10 days before Chirstmas, I contracted chicken pox out of the blue, seriously.  I woke up one morning and found myself cover spots.

I was confused and thought I had an allergic reaction.  But when I took a closer look, the spots were not some regular rash but kinda blistery.  It occured to me that they might be chicken pox.  To comfirm what I thought they were, I called the doctor's clinic and took the first opening they had without thinking who I was going to see.

I checked in at the reception desk and the nurse called me into the exam room in less than a minute (unusually fast).  I waited in the exam room for about 5 minutes and the doctor came in.  The first thing she said to me after a short greeting "Hi", was "I heard you have chicken pox, you haven't touched anything in this room, have you?".  I told her no and reassured her that I was sitting on my chair the entire time I was in the room.  She sat down in front of the computer and started documenting my case.

After the brief meeting, she left the room shortly and returned with a whole new set of 'outfit'.  She wrapped herself up in a long gown, with glasses, mask and gloves.  She then asked me to show her the spots I got.  She then mumbled, "I have never seen real chicken pox before, do they itch?"  (You tell me, you the doctor, I thought.)  So I told her what I felt and what I noticed (that the spots were blistery).  "I think you're right, they are probably chicken pox" she said to me.  I was shocked that she seemed to agreed with me instantly and amused by how nervous and inexperienced she was.

She stayed in a distance as soon as she agreed that I had chicken pox, and took off ther 'wrap'.  "I do not know what to do with them (she meant her 'wrap' - the gown, mask, gloves etc), just leave them here and I will figure out how to dispose them", she said that in a hurry and left the room.  Later, she stood by the door and kinda 'threw' the diagnosis slip towards me.  Without wasiting any second, she immediately posted a sign on the door 'Do not use this room'.  However, she apologized the way she handed me the slip before she finally disappeared.

Before I left the room, a nurse called me from far away "Could you please throw the gloves and everything in the bin?"  I was surprised by the request but I did it anyway.  I did not mind what happened in the clinic and still found the way the doctor and the nurse acted quite amusing.  The doctor's appointment made me laugh for a couple of days before the disease got more serious.  I cancelled my trip to NY and had isolated myself from people for a little over 3 weeks.  Anyhow, I have recovered and today's my first day back in school.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Flipside on January 09, 2006, 04:02:19 pm
ROFL Iirc, once the spots are at the 'Blister' stage, the disease isn't particuarly communiable anyway :)
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Ace on January 09, 2006, 04:17:54 pm
Well if you're older (I'm assuming you're in the 13+ range) it's communicable longer and much more serious with a higher chance of creating shingles later on.

So they're just overreacting a little, but not as much as it might seem. Most of it though is due to the wonderous thing called liability insurance.

"OMFG!!!! A kid got sick going to the doctor! A pox upon you and your rates!"
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: aldo_14 on January 09, 2006, 05:22:43 pm
In Turkey, you'd be chucked in the furnace.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: vyper on January 10, 2006, 03:50:30 am
:lol: @ aldo
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: WMCoolmon on January 10, 2006, 04:02:20 am
 :lol:

But also kind of sad...what if it had been something more serious?

Hopefully the doctor got it, that way she can diagnose it better, and won't die from it in old age. :p
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: aldo_14 on January 10, 2006, 04:35:53 am
Apparently chickenpx can be fatal in some groups as a result of complications from bacterial infection or the virus entering organs such as the lungs or brain (largely when the person has a depressed immune system, like people taking steroids or immunosuppressants), so I can see why they'd take precautions.  Apparently 80% of people killed by the virus are adults.

 I would guess the inexperience was probably because AFAIK most people in the US are vaccinated against chickenpox, so it's quite a rare disease (400,000 cases per year across the entirety of the US).  Although apparently there's some doubt over exactly how effective the vaccination is (it's not used in the UK for the general population IIRC, only for targeted risk groups like medical workers).

As an aside; chickenpox is a form of herpes (human herpes virus 3 or something, apparently).  Best not to mention that part to anyone - "oh, I had herpes last week".
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 10, 2006, 10:35:33 am
In Turkey, you'd be chucked in the furnace.

Yeah I am sure that was what gonna happen   :lol:

I would guess the inexperience was probably because AFAIK most people in the US are vaccinated against chickenpox, so it's quite a rare disease (400,000 cases per year across the entirety of the US).  Although apparently there's some doubt over exactly how effective the vaccination is (it's not used in the UK for the general population IIRC, only for targeted risk groups like medical workers).


I think you guessed correctly.  The disease is virtually non-existing here in the states.  That's why I was very upset when I got infected from who knows where?

As an aside; chickenpox is a form of herpes (human herpes virus 3 or something, apparently).  Best not to mention that part to anyone - "oh, I had herpes last week".

Yep, it's a varicella-zoster virus (VZV) from the herpesvirus family (that has about 100 'family members').
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: vyper on January 10, 2006, 11:22:28 am
Charming. :wtf:
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Ford Prefect on January 10, 2006, 12:07:43 pm
I had no idea chicken pox had become so rare. I had it when I was in preschool, and I remember back then everyone was supposed to get it once.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 10, 2006, 12:44:11 pm
I had no idea chicken pox had become so rare. I had it when I was in preschool, and I remember back then everyone was supposed to get it once.

Not common enough in the last 10 -15 years, especially after the 21st century because all babies are supposed to be vaccinated.  My doctor was shocked that I was allowed to go through school without being vaccinated.  How nervously my doctor acted that day also proved that how rare the disease is these days.  She hadn't seen the real pox before she saw me a little over 3 weeks ago.  How sad.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Taristin on January 10, 2006, 12:48:06 pm
I had no idea chicken pox had become so rare. I had it when I was in preschool, and I remember back then everyone was supposed to get it once.

Really. I had it when I was in 4th grade?  What's really fn is Fifth's disease. Make your skin rash in a ifferent pattern all together. I got to look like an alien for  week...
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: ZmaN on January 10, 2006, 12:53:12 pm
if youre an adult (over about 16 years old), you can get badly sick from chicken pox..
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Flipside on January 10, 2006, 12:55:00 pm
Not if you've had it before, your body builds up antibodies against it. Sharon never got when she was young, and got the Shingles a couple of years ago. I however did, and despite Shingles being very contagious, never got so much as a spot.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: BlackDove on January 10, 2006, 12:58:50 pm
Yeh had it when I was a kid too.

I love the doctor not being experienced in it. I bet she wanted to be safe not to confuse it with small pox or something like that.

Still... pretty retarded. Who gave her the licence to practise and how many other diseases has she only "heard of"?

Meh.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: karajorma on January 10, 2006, 01:37:17 pm
And it's not like chicken pox isn't an easily recognisable disease. If she's struggling with that how is she going to deal with things that have more generic symptoms?
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 10, 2006, 01:40:11 pm
Well, I did not catch the disease when I was kid even when my older brother got it.  Many of my friends had chickenpox when they were less then a dacade old.

Having chickenpox as andult is truly not fun, speaking from what I just had experienced.  I had high fever, joint pain, muscle soreness and a constant headache the day after I saw the doctor for the about two weeks.  Later in the second week while I was healing I caught a cold.  As a result from being sick for that long, I lost several pounds.  I do not have much to lose to begin with and right now, I am really at the borderline of being under weight.

About the doctor, I wonder how many more doctors like her are out there.  If I didn't have a faintless clue of what I probably had, she might either tell me that it's nothing or put me under qourantine for further medical research for an unidentified disease.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: BlackDove on January 10, 2006, 02:10:58 pm
Plenty more. And that's not counting the ones that want to drug and test you to make money off of you.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 10, 2006, 02:22:05 pm
It is bad and scary.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2006, 02:52:33 pm
I had no idea chicken pox had become so rare. I had it when I was in preschool, and I remember back then everyone was supposed to get it once.

Me neither.

WF: After reading through this thread, it's apparent to me that these guys want to know your age, masking their curiosity in a guise of "chicken-pox is worse the older you get" nonsense. :nervous:

...so, how old are you? ;)
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: BlackDove on January 10, 2006, 03:53:40 pm
Are you sure the guys want to know or you want to know?

This has been discussed before. Why don't you use your search engine that you keep to yourself there?




Asshole :p (give meh teh search funktionz)
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2006, 07:24:04 pm
Hehe... no, I'm not interested in people who are, for all intents and purposes, random internet people. I just thought the (innocent, I'm sure) coincidence would be funny to point out. :p
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Polpolion on January 10, 2006, 08:10:57 pm
I remember when I got the chiken pox, I picked half of them off. Now I have a bunch of tiny little scars on my stomach, back, etc.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: achtung on January 10, 2006, 08:21:11 pm
I remember getting them, I popped a bunch on my arm, didn't leave any scars.  I thought it was cool to pop the little blisters.  :ick:
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Herra Tohtori on January 10, 2006, 08:41:37 pm
"What the hell is chicken pox?" was my initial thought about this thread. Then the symptoms started sounding familiar, and soon I found out that it has a completely different name in Finnish - actually "vesirokko" = "water pox", referring to blisters filled with tissue fluid... nothing to do with chickens here in Finland...

I don't remember having it, but I've been told I had it as a kid.

By the way, one possible reason why the inexperienced doctor freaked out a little...

chicken = bird

pox = illness caused by virus infection

influenza = illness caused by virus infection

=>

"OMG  :shaking: :shaking: :shaking: U'r having a BIRD-related illness caused by virus infection, it might be something potentially lethal, I'd better watch out or there'll be a pandemy of this illness with you and me amongst first victims - Goddamnit thos cursed birds..."
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Flipside on January 10, 2006, 08:51:23 pm
A lot of these diseases were named after farmyard animals in the UK, it was called Chicken Pox because it was first 'officially' diagnosed in someone who worked in a Henhouse, though it was later discovered that Chickens had nothing to do with it.

Cowpox was a famous one, it's was actually the realisation that Farm-hands who had contracted Cowpox never ever caught a much much nastier version of the disease, called Smallpox, which led to the discovery of vaccination in the first place ;)
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Styxx on January 10, 2006, 09:17:16 pm
The google ads on this thread are awesome.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Herra Tohtori on January 10, 2006, 09:27:34 pm
Lol, true...  :D
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: achtung on January 10, 2006, 09:47:46 pm
The google ads on this thread are awesome.

Seems like you guys decided to make them "a bit more obvious" to us. :D
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 11, 2006, 09:38:05 am
Quote from: Sandwich

WF: After reading through this thread, it's apparent to me that these guys want to know your age, masking their curiosity in a guise of "chicken-pox is worse the older you get" nonsense.

...so, how old are you?


Sanwich got me thinking for a minute -- Is that what all this is about?  Trying find out how old I am?  If that's true, what's next?  Maybe what I look like?  I thought maybe I should post my picture and have you guys tell me how old I am   :D  Wait!  He's one of the admin, he should have access to the info I put in when I registered to be a member.

Are you sure the guys want to know or you want to know?

This has been discussed before. Why don't you use your search engine that you keep to yourself there?


Asshole :p (give meh teh search funktionz)

So you really wonna know?

thesizzler & Swantz, what you guys did was pretty disgusting  :p
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Sandwich on January 11, 2006, 09:51:57 am
Sanwich got me thinking for a minute -- Is that what all this is about?  Trying find out how old I am?  If that's true, what's next?  Maybe what I look like?  I thought maybe I should post my picture and have you guys tell me how old I am   :D  Wait!  He's one of the admin, he should have access to the info I put in when I registered to be a member.
No, I don't care, personally. And I didn't think anyone was really trying to wrangle that info out of you through the chickenpox issue, either - I just thought it'd be fun to insinuate that they were. :p
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: aldo_14 on January 11, 2006, 05:02:11 pm
Sanwich got me thinking for a minute -- Is that what all this is about?  Trying find out how old I am?  If that's true, what's next?  Maybe what I look like?  I thought maybe I should post my picture and have you guys tell me how old I am   :D Wait!  He's one of the admin, he should have access to the info I put in when I registered to be a member.

Bearing in mind this is a games site on the internet - the shock of actually seeing a real live female would probably kill the majority of the pre-pubescent population here.

Not that I'm adhering in any way to stereotypes, of course........
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 12, 2006, 03:44:55 pm
Sanwich got me thinking for a minute -- Is that what all this is about?  Trying find out how old I am?  If that's true, what's next?  Maybe what I look like?  I thought maybe I should post my picture and have you guys tell me how old I am   :D Wait!  He's one of the admin, he should have access to the info I put in when I registered to be a member.

Bearing in mind this is a games site on the internet - the shock of actually seeing a real live female would probably kill the majority of the pre-pubescent population here.

Not that I'm adhering in any way to stereotypes, of course........

Even if it's a picture of a not very sexy 90 year old female?  That reminds me of an email of "10 advantages of dating a geek" I read this morning - if Angelina Jolie and a computer (with internet connection) are in a room with a geek, he will probably find the computer more interesting.  I am not saying that guys here are all geeks, but I know this is a serious game site and most of you probably do enjoy spending long hours playing on the computers  :p
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Ford Prefect on January 12, 2006, 04:13:04 pm
It's actually been years since I was anything remotely resembling a hardcore gamer. (I don't think I even remember how to play Freespace.) I just come here for the discussion.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 13, 2006, 08:53:59 am
Anyway, here's the dating geek list I talked about yesterday.  It's probably not new to you guys but I find it amusing.

Ten Reasons Why You Should Date a Geek


1.  Geeks are useful, they can fix your desktop, laptop, … Those skills are very useful and can make your life run smooth.
 
2. They are more romantic than they’re given credit for. Their idea of romance might be making up a web-page abut about you. But hey it lasts longer than flowers and you can show your friends.
   
3. They’ve got brains and they’re usually very well educated.

4. They’re relatively low-maintenance. So there will be no complicated dinners needed. And if you’re not the best cook, you can order a pizza.

5. You won’t have to worry about what he’s doing. You’ll probably find him at his computer.

6. They trust you, so you can be yourself around them. You like to walk around the house in a ratty t-shirt for comfort? He won’t care. They won’t get pissy if you don’t wear make-up or don’t want to bother primping your hair.

7. He will make you shine everywhere you go. No matter how clumsy you sense of style, no matter how awkward your social skills, you’ll be a fashion star and a classy diplomat next to your geek. He’ll make you look so good; you’ll fall in love with yourself.

8. If you are not into computers, TVs and DVD and you don’t care about being popular and fashionable. What about the newest techie gadgets? You are going to be a proud owner of the latest gadgets if you ever decide to date a geek.

9. He won’t cheat on you either. Place the sexiest woman on earth in a room with a geek, say Angelina Jolie. At the other corner of the room, place the latest model of some computer or other. I am willing to bet that your geek would want to play with that computer much more than getting to know Angelina Jolie. In fact, he might not even see her if the computer is on and connected to the Internet. C’mmon he has to check his email, surf the web and blog about the fact that he is in a room with Angelina Jolie.

10. The final reason is: They actually give a damn about you. Not how you look (though that’s a plus), not how skinny you are, not how much make-up you primp yourself up with, but they like you for you.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Martinus on January 13, 2006, 09:18:05 am
Though stay away from the hardcore geeks, they'll probably try to overclock you by feeding you vast quantities of cola. ;)
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: aldo_14 on January 13, 2006, 12:17:38 pm
Though stay away from the hardcore geeks, they'll probably try to overclock you by feeding you vast quantities of cola. ;)


I've heard it gets really nasty when they try and insert expansion cards.

Albiet no 8/ would seem to assume that geeks actually have money..........
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: BlackDove on January 13, 2006, 04:49:02 pm
I just come here for the discussion.

Boy, did you get screwed.


So you really wonna know?


Oh, I already know.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: karajorma on January 13, 2006, 05:01:41 pm
Do tell. :)
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: BlackDove on January 13, 2006, 05:05:07 pm
Not my place or my interest really tbh. If Wild wants to keep you guessing, her prerogative.

However I find it dissapointing that even this thread got derailed into this type of a discussion, which is pretty much default when people figure out or know outhand that a female is partaking in the topic.

All too... egh.

Primal.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: karajorma on January 13, 2006, 05:07:49 pm
I'm not guessing. I'm just wondering how you know :)
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: BlackDove on January 13, 2006, 05:10:46 pm
There was a thread that indirectly (or directly, I guess it depends on what you were looking for) displayed it, and I am trained to pick up on it, and even more unluckily, remember it.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Sandwich on January 13, 2006, 09:43:59 pm
...I am trained to pick up on it, and even more unluckily, remember it.

HE'S CIA!!!!!!!!!!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: BlackDove on January 13, 2006, 10:34:58 pm
:lol:
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Sandwich on January 14, 2006, 11:08:26 am
Oh, suuure, laugh it off. But your cover's blown, so you can just forget trying to maintain it.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: BlackDove on January 14, 2006, 01:16:01 pm
Yeah I've really been caught :(

My cover is blown now, back to headquarters for a desk job.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: karajorma on January 14, 2006, 02:54:29 pm
My cover is blown now

I heard that Karl Rove was looking over your file anyway so don't worry you've only saved yourself from having to do the same thing next week.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: pyro-manic on January 15, 2006, 03:29:10 pm
:lol:

I had chicken pox when I was about 3. Didn't actually make me ill at all, I just got the blistery spot thingies for a week or two, then they disappeared.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 16, 2006, 10:50:22 am
Amazing, and you remember it wasn't bad!  :)
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: pyro-manic on January 16, 2006, 11:02:02 am
Heh, my overriding memory is of my dad shouting at me to stop picking at the spots, because they'd get infected. I remember thinking, "yeah, but they itch!" and carrying on surreptitiously. I have tiny little scars down my side now from where they were.
Title: Re: A story of Chicken Pox
Post by: Wild Fragaria on January 16, 2006, 11:14:23 am
I see.  I did not pick anything of the spots up when I was awake even though they itch.  But it's a different story while I was sleeping.  I managed to burst a number of them while I slept and woke up the next day regretting.  I guess I have just proved that people are 'weak' when they are semi-conscious :)