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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kosh on January 15, 2006, 07:36:35 pm
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http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/15/intel_drops_pentium_brand/
Looks like the Pentium is going bye-bye.......
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Yeah everyting is Intel Core Solo and Intel Core Duo for their single and dual core processors.
I'm still not even having a second look at Intel processors...from the benchmarks they are overpriced and underperforming. Until this trend reverses I can't see myself buying one. I've dealt with 3 AMD chips now and they have so far been absolutey superb.
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I've told myself the next pc I get is going to have an AMD processor. Intel is sort of in the situation that they are only upgrading things if they have to. I see them as the IE of processors.
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I think their marketing department has gone insane...first with the barely inteligable numerical names, now they're getting rid of pentium...
next they'll just call everything processor...."Now introducing Intel Processor! Take your pick from a range of models from high to low end with no real idea what your actually buying! And if your a noob, well just forget about actually understanding a thing!"
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From a purely marketing standpoint, this is a terrible decision. They've spent years getting the Pentium into the Pentium into the public consciousness, branding the hell out of it, and for what? It's pretty much the only CPU that the average user recognizes by name, and now they're going to scrap it.
Boo, I say. Boo. What's wrong with Pentium 5?
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From a purely marketing standpoint, this is a terrible decision. They've spent years getting the Pentium into the Pentium into the public consciousness, branding the hell out of it, and for what? It's pretty much the only CPU that the average user recognizes by name, and now they're going to scrap it.
Boo, I say. Boo. What's wrong with Pentium 5?
Pentium 5 is sort of redundant (redundant) so a new name might be in order. I think thats why they decided to ditch it. But you're right...it is part of the public consciousness finally.
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Eh, just them focusing on their platforms. Why sell someone a processor when you can sell them a motherboard, processor and wireless adapter?
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yeah, I heard about this last month. They're getting rid of the Intel Inside branding and the dropped e in their logo as well. I think the whole P4 debacle sullied the Pentium name and they want to move away from that.
By the way, how the hell do you pronounce that "viiv" thing that they are advertising? :wtf: (which apparently really amounts to nothing)
I'm still not even having a second look at Intel processors...from the benchmarks they are overpriced and underperforming. Until this trend reverses I can't see myself buying one. I've dealt with 3 AMD chips now and they have so far been absolutey superb.
It seems the new Preslers are actually not that bad and can trade blows with the X2s when both are overclocked to typical levels. Although the X2s still come out on top in games and are about half as power hungry.
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Intel is like the GM of the processor world... People, like my father, will buy a PC because it's an Intel Pentium chip, and not realize that they're paying more for worse performance. He was actually trying to tell me that the Pentium line ie better because he hadn't heard of AMD before. :wtf:
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By the way, how the hell do you pronounce that "viiv" thing that they are advertising? :wtf: (which apparently really amounts to nothing)
Long "i" - "Vive". Rhymes with "hive".
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Intel is like the GM of the processor world... People, like my father, will buy a PC because it's an Intel Pentium chip, and not realize that they're paying more for worse performance. He was actually trying to tell me that the Pentium line ie better because he hadn't heard of AMD before. :wtf:
When I'm building a computer for someone, pretty much the first thing I do is spend 5 minutes bringing them up to speed on the current state of technology. This was important back when Hyperthreading was a really good feature because some customers wanted that capability, but these days it's more important that they know the difference between onboard graphics and plug-in graphics than what brands of CPU are available. Depending on their needs and budget, I either put in an Athlon 64 or a high-end Sempron. So far, no one has requested a gaming supercomputer.
Except that one time a friend was considering sinking over £2000 into the fastest machine money could buy. He eventually went for a high-end laptop but I did have fun putting together a quote for a dual Opteron machine with 4GB of RAM and a pair of GF6800 Ultras.
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So, does notebook come with a AMD processor?
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They seem to be pushing the Centrino brand above everything else now. But nobody seems to know what Centrino actually is, so dropping the Pentium name entirely seems a bit counterproductive...
WF: you can get AMD-based notebooks, yes. :)
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Any recommendation for manufacturer that makes notebook with AMD processor?
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By the way, how the hell do you pronounce that "viiv" thing that they are advertising? :wtf: (which apparently really amounts to nothing)
Long "i" - "Vive". Rhymes with "hive".
I see, thanks. It's a rather strange word. :p
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Hmm. I'd probably pronounce that "veeve", as in "viva".... Still, a silly word to use for a product name, by all accounts.
WF: No idea, sorry. I've never owned a laptop, and know nothing about them. I expect brands like Toshiba, Fujitsu-Siemens, Acer and suchlike will make some decent machines. But I suspect CP and others will know quite a bit more than me. :)
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Any recommendation for manufacturer that makes notebook with AMD processor?
Pretty much most of them do. You almost instantly lose the geek crowd if you don't offer AMD processors these days because the computer literate know that you're often paying more for a poorer processor if you go Intel.
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So, does notebook come with a AMD processor?
Yeah there's a bunch of laptop makers that supply AMD procesors. Some use the Sempron, some the Athlon 64 and some use a AMD mobile chip thats name escapes me right now.
Centrino is simply put, a Pentium M processor with Intel branded wireless chips and a few other things on the motherboard and a certain expected battery life. There's a bunch of details that I care not to remember :)
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Turion, isn't it?
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Alright, so what's the difference between Intel Pentium M Proces and Pentium Centrino?
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Centrino is a combination of the CPU and chipset. Pentium M is just the CPU.
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I'm quite glad that Pentium is dead, and good riddance. It should have been dead after the Pentium Pro or MMX. The only reason it exists in the first place is because the US Patent Office told them they couldn't copyright "586" :rolleyes:
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With the latest TV spot saying that the Intel chip was trapped doing simple menial tasks inside a PC, and it finds a new home inside a Mac, and to "imagine the possibilities", my first reaction was "Good. Stay there. Don't come back." I almost found the statements offensive, but that's because I'm a PC user. I'm not against Macs in any way, they have thier purposes and thier places, but hey, if PC's are dumb boxes that do menial tasks, let AMD take over the PC world. I'm sure we'll do fine without you, Intel.
Of course, it's only a commercial.. la la la....
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That ad is Apple's doing, not Intel's. Intel issued a statement that they would never describe any of their customers that way.
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Well, good thing they covered thier asses over it. I'd think they'd review the ad with Intel before regurgitating it out in the public though. I guess they can do what they want though if they own certain rights to the chip in question.
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im glad i made the switch to amd. im really impressed with the performance increase over my last computer, which had a"faster" cpu (200mhz faster clock). at first i was skeptical that it would be faster, but it was and im impressed. so i dont give a crap that intel is dying. i kinda found their new dual core ads amusing. probibly still cant outperforme my amd 64 3500+
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Well, good thing they covered thier asses over it. I'd think they'd review the ad with Intel before regurgitating it out in the public though. I guess they can do what they want though if they own certain rights to the chip in question.
Apple owns no rights to the Yonah core, so they were just full of bull****, as Apple often is, and I wouldn't put it above them to show the ad without showing it to Intel. Intel may have a deal with Apple now, but most of their money is still going to come from the PC market. As for Apple, I'm assuming we all know about their faked benchmarks of years past?