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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Wanderer on January 16, 2006, 11:43:18 am
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So here is my first totally self-made model.
Tools: TS 3.2, LithUnWrap, graphics with PSP.
About 50 m long, 2 light turrets at the bottom, one heavier missile (torpedo/bomb/rocket) / gun / antifighterbeam (different models) turret on top. Pilot has some light weapons and some missiles. Idea was taken from HW corvettes and HW2 gunboats... And it shall handle like a brick. even Ursa is a nimble one compared to this...
In-game screenshot
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/screen0098.jpg)
EDIT: Triangulated poly count is about 575, depends which turret is in use
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Its a little hard to make out. How about a textureless view?
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Nontextured, front
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/nfront.jpg)
Back and behind
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/nback.jpg)
Any better?
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Looks promising...just reduce the Missile banks by half...or more...they look like they might tip the craft over...
Plus you might try taking some parts out of the extended bits (The forks that look like they're from the Mill. Falcon.) Make them oddly shaped. Slap on a Vasudan Texture, and add a bit more turrets and you've got a Vasudan Light Cruiser or GunBoat.
Either that or just shrink the missiles and see what everyone else thinks after that.
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Ok, though i think ill stick with more terran than vasudan looks. And here goes:
Smaller missilepods
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/new2a.jpg)
Alternative heavy energy/ (type 3 = antifighter) beam cannon.
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/new1a.jpg)
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Much better, second one kinda reminds me of that homeworld 2 pulsar corvette.
Anyways, it's looking good now, the only thing i can reccomend is adding more detail to the main body, and then a nice looking texture.
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The main body could definitely use some more rounding. It would look pretty vasudan with that. (Or at least vasudan body with a terran turret on it).
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It doesn't look Vasudan.
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Looks kinda like some FS1-era self-propelled senrtygun.
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Here goes some more some pics from the more rounded hull..
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/newB1.jpg)
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/newB2.jpg)
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Second modelling attempt... This time trying to create a cruiser sized model.
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/vcr1.jpg)
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/vcr2.jpg)
And with fighterpod
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/vcr21.jpg)
It has perhaps a bit Vasudanish looks...
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I'm not sure the "head" should be so circular. I'd suggest having it more ellyptical shaped (forward-stretched), with a pair of arc's coming off each side of the head (at the fattest point) like those of the head segment of the Hat. Also, have the divet knotch in the nose of the head, like there is on the Hat, though not quite as large (proportionally) and more swept. Then, move the head segment back so the upper neck section terminates about a 3rd the way along the head.
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Definitely a big improvement. Those wings are too flat though.
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An overweight Klingon Bird-Of-Prey a-la Star Trek 1? I dunno..
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It has perhaps a bit Vasudanish looks...
Not to discourage you, but nope. Also not Vasudan.
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It has perhaps a bit Vasudanish looks...
Not to discourage you, but nope. Also not Vasudan.
You always say that but never make clear just WHAT would look Vasudan (in your opinion).
Enlighten us.
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Raa's point is that just because something is curvy does not mean it is Vasudan. I agree with him on that. However, Raa would probably disagree on what actually is vasudan. There aren't many people who have shown the talent in making good Vasudan designs.
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You always say that but never make clear just WHAT would look Vasudan (in your opinion).
Enlighten us.
Raa's point is that just because something is curvy does not mean it is Vasudan. I agree with him on that. However, Raa would probably disagree on what actually is vasudan. There aren't many people who have shown the talent in making good Vasudan designs.
More or less. There isn't a way for me to explain, because all of the criteria, technically, may be met, but it still doesn't fit with the Vasudan design. And, frankly, too often people attempt to make a Terran craft, fail, round it some more, and say it's Vasudan. There's very few, if any, ships that I would accept as Vasudan, personally.
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I doubt even V couldn't decide on what should be Vasudan, especially between FS and FS2
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(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/vcr31.jpg)
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/vcr32.jpg)
Without fighterpod this time. Elongated 'head' and remade wings.
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Perhaps you could try to add a "Sobek bridge" :)
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Seams to me the top is too flat. Round it out some.
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I just can't shake the impression that it looks like some sort of art-deco spoon. The general shape, down to the manta-ray-like winglets on the back, just don't fit the form of a Vasudan capship at all. It also looks too flimsy and thin; most FS models in general have a substantial internal volume, where this one doesn't seem to.
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Try adding the fighterpod back.
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I'm liking that design :) Although Vasudan ships don't really have wings that just stick out like that, they're generally more blended into the main body.
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For the person who made the Bird of Prey comment. There were no B'rel class Klingon ships in Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The three Klingon ships detroyed by V'ger were q'tInga(K'tinga) class battlecruisers.
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Although Vasudan ships don't really have wings that just stick out like that, they're generally more blended into the main body.
Which is fine, because this model isn't Vasudan.
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I'm kinda thinking that some of these could actually become Terran/Vasudan hybrids. Terran/Vasudan collaborations spawned from 30 years of work of the Colossus.
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Here is somewhat updated model... Most of the additions are smoothing and such which is not very visible in these shots.. The main turret is fitted but it is kinda funny looking but its keeping to the general looks of the ships though. It is modelled after some concept drawings but i think ill have to replace it..
Red thingyes are turrets.. It now has 1 multipart and 6 singleparts but ill add 1 - 2 multiparts and 4+ single parts to it still.
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/vcra1.jpg)
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/vcra2.jpg)
And one shot of the version with the added fighterbay
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/vekkup/FS2/Pics/Common/vcrb2.jpg)
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Hmm that main turret isn't to my liking. If you agree I'd suggest you'd cut teh barrel length in half and teh turret base itself by 1/2 to 1/3rd... It really looks flimsy anyway and strikes me as a secondary or point defense type turret anyway. :D
Love the base ship shape though!
I agree with the GTVA hybrid option though. What is "vasudany" can change over time. Plus it might make a difference after it's textured, so give it a chance.