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Title: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Kosh on January 16, 2006, 05:00:46 pm
http://www.quantumbiocommunication.com/consciousness/at-last-scientist-are-discovering-the-soul.html

http://www.quantumbiocommunication.com/consciousness/at-last-scientist-are-discovering-the-soul-part-ii.html


I'm not quite sure what to make of this. Is it real, fake, or just just some guy with a wild imagination?
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: CP5670 on January 16, 2006, 05:04:55 pm
What do you think? :rolleyes:

I've seen this guy's stuff before. :p
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on January 16, 2006, 05:08:00 pm
I'm putting my money on the latter.

I've only read the first 4 paragraphs, but they contain so much pseudo-scientific garbage to make me stop reading any futher.

Also, from the About&Bio page:
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The author is conducting experiments to connect a person’s consciousness to a computer interface. This device will be available upon completion.

I rest my case.
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: karajorma on January 16, 2006, 05:12:40 pm
This reminds me of the study where someone weighed a person just before they died and just after and concluded that the difference between the two must have been how much the person's soul weighed. :lol:
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: CP5670 on January 16, 2006, 05:12:58 pm
I like this even better:

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An irrational number is a number that you cannot conceptualise. So infinity is an irrational number: you can’t conceptualise it.

:D
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: aldo_14 on January 16, 2006, 05:13:38 pm
On first glance; he's off his nut
On longer inspection; he's definately off his nut
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: karajorma on January 16, 2006, 05:16:40 pm
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The author is conducting experiments to connect a person’s consciousness to a computer interface. This device will be available upon completion.

What's the betting he then sells them a keyboard and a monitor :D
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on January 16, 2006, 05:17:59 pm
I like this even better:

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An irrational number is a number that you cannot conceptualise. So infinity is an irrational number: you can’t conceptualise it.

:D

It's astounding how many factional faults you can put in 2 sentences.

But his site is quite entertaining.
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: an0n on January 16, 2006, 07:45:29 pm
AHAHA!

I got 2 sentences before I decided it was total bull****:

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Think of a sunset… As soon as you see this image there is a binary code of photons coding for that experience in your brain. Think of a dark room with the flame of a candle.

Now if I were able to look inside your brain, there would be no candle there - just a binary code of photons flickering on and off. The question is, where was that image before I asked you to think of it? The point I am trying to make is that when I ask you to envisage a sunset or a candle flame, before you remember it that information is not in your brain. The information shows up in your brain as soon as you have the intention to remember. So where was it before that? It existed as potential in consciousness but it wasn’t in your brain.

My memories therefore are not in my brain.

Binary code? Photons? In the brain? BWUAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Edward Bradshaw on January 16, 2006, 08:17:44 pm


.. I think its time for.....

TIME CUBE:
http://www.timecube.com/
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Ace on January 16, 2006, 08:22:37 pm
AHAHA!

I got 2 sentences before I decided it was total bull****:

Binary code? Photons? In the brain? BWUAHAHAHAHAHA!

Maybe he's a Cylon? Optical cables for tendons? :p
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: ToecrusherHammerjaw on January 16, 2006, 08:26:45 pm
<goes to link>  "Information overload!! Attempting shutdown.  Shutdown unsuccessful.  Mind raped.  Sanity compromised." :snipe:
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Descenterace on January 17, 2006, 05:32:10 am
From about ten seconds of scanning that article, I can conclude that this guy probably doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. He's either very intelligent and good at twisting facts to fit into the credulous mind, or he's a ****ing nitwit who doesn't actually know anything about quantum physics (or any other type of physics for that matter) but scan-read enough books to be able to bang technical-sounding words together to make a sentence.

My money is on the second possibility.
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Rand al Thor on January 17, 2006, 05:53:15 am
Haha, Timecube.

Then I scrolled down. There's another page!!!???
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Grug on January 17, 2006, 08:59:07 am
The first two paragraphs are enough to make me stop reading. =/

Your memorys aren't in your brain now? LoL.
I've been lectured enough times by my mate who's studying medicine to know that one to be dead wrong.
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Edward Bradshaw on January 17, 2006, 09:14:20 am
Haha, Timecube.

Then I scrolled down. There's another page!!!???


YES!

If you believe the academic erroneous word
god, you will die stupid and evil - for you
have not the mental freedom to comprehend
Nature's Higher Order Wisdom of the
Harmonic Simultaneous 4-Day Time Cube Creation Principle within 1Earth Rotation.
Until word is cornered, educators are liars.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: CP5670 on January 17, 2006, 11:28:26 am
This guy is actually very clever, in the sense that he's gotten millions of people to believe this BS and has made tons of money through his books that contain similar material. I've heard of him quite a few times before. If I remember correctly, he even has a whole university of some sort dedicated to this stuff. :lol:
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Sandwich on January 17, 2006, 02:40:49 pm
Of course, hundreds of years down the road, we may look back on this guy in the way we look back on Copernicus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernicus) today. Sure, there's stuff he's scientifically wrong about. But the other stuff... the "images are not stored in a TV set" analogy - how can we prove that's not possible?

I'm not saying I believe this guy. Just drawing a possible parallel from history. ;)
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: karajorma on January 17, 2006, 04:46:16 pm
Copernicus presented scientific evidence that he was correct. This guy does not.

Even if he's correct he'll be looked on as a broken clock that happened to tell the right time.
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: aldo_14 on January 17, 2006, 05:05:15 pm
Copernicus presented scientific evidence that he was correct. This guy does not.

Even if he's correct he'll be looked on as a broken clock that happened to tell the right time.

I don't think Copernicus focused on selling dodgy self help books, either.
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Sandwich on January 17, 2006, 06:41:29 pm
Copernicus presented scientific evidence that he was correct. This guy does not.

My point is merely that Copernicus was correct, but his audience "knew" of a different "reality". There's no way we can tell if this is something similar.
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Charismatic on January 17, 2006, 06:53:53 pm
Timecube wtf? "Average people understand
4 Day Creation when I tell
them about it, but scientist
can't accept it, for the evil
bastards think singularity." LOL!!
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Ace on January 17, 2006, 06:57:53 pm
Copernicus presented scientific evidence that he was correct. This guy does not.

My point is merely that Copernicus was correct, but his audience "knew" of a different "reality". There's no way we can tell if this is something similar.

...and we all know that reality is different than his "reality" shared by others with a thin grasp on existence.

One ("reality") can hit with a methaphorical bat, Star Trekkish pseudo-science, and the threat of eternal damnation. The other one (reality) will actually hit you with a bat, you'll hurt, you'll bleed, and then you'll cry.

Copernicus happened to hit reality when playing with the "reality" of his happy math equations. ("oooh the universe is perfect! circles are perfect! orbits must all be circles!!!111")
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: IceFire on January 17, 2006, 07:24:02 pm
As crazy as it is...its not too bad. Not specifically science really...but not bad.  I've heard worse and more damaging things.
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: GodisanAtheist on January 22, 2006, 07:10:50 pm
I couldn't help but think how much weed that guy must have smoked before writting that crap...

You guys shouls look up some stuff about Rupert Sheldrake and his therory of Morphic Resonance if you want a good laugh. Strangest thing though, is Rupert Sheldrake isn't a quack...
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: Edward Bradshaw on January 22, 2006, 07:31:09 pm
Timecube wtf? "Average people understand
4 Day Creation when I tell
them about it, but scientist
can't accept it, for the evil
bastards think singularity." LOL!!

Theres so much great stuff on that site:

"If you place a child in a room and in
the hands of a Word God, the child
will suffer severe loneliness and will
starve to death. God is Word fiction. "
http://timecube.com/index5.html

 :nod: :D

Ed
Title: Re: Science discovers the soul?
Post by: karajorma on January 23, 2006, 12:11:39 pm
You guys shouls look up some stuff about Rupert Sheldrake and his therory of Morphic Resonance if you want a good laugh. Strangest thing though, is Rupert Sheldrake isn't a quack...

Just googled the term and you're right :)