The rock star Bono has launched a new global brand, Product Red, with a share of profits to go to the fight against Aids in Africa.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4650024.stm
Launch partners American Express, Gap, Converse and Giorgio Armani announced a range of "red" branded products.These will include T-shirts, footwear, sunglasses and a credit card.
"Here we are, fat cats in the snow," said Bono at the start of the launch, only to correct himself: "I should say winners in the snow."
From your description...it sounds like the already overpriced designer brands will be donating money to AIDs in Africa...problem with that is what?
No...but 5% is better than 0%, even if it is clothed in scumbaginess, don't you think? If you were dying, would you rather recieve 2,000 dollars for your treatment (when it really costs $10,000), or nothing?
And don't forget; 5% of their sales is a LOT of money. Not as much as the other 95%, but it's still a lot.
No...but 5% is better than 0%, even if it is clothed in scumbaginess, don't you think? If you were dying, would you rather recieve 2,000 dollars for your treatment (when it really costs $10,000), or nothing?
And don't forget; 5% of their sales is a LOT of money. Not as much as the other 95%, but it's still a lot.
I can't be the only one who thinks we should just let Africa burn, can I?
I mean, we tell them to wear condoms and they think we're trying to put a ****ing voodoo infertility curse on them. They gang-**** AIDS infected hookers on a Friday night.
Then they have 15 kids and sit around whining about not having enough food. Here's a ****ing clue: Disease and mortality rates would fall if you STOPPED HAVING HUNDREDS OF KIDS! And there'd be more food.
They should just forcibly sterilize them with chemical attacks. That'd solve everyone's problems.
Am I the only one who thinks An0ns view has some turth/merrit to it?
I mean, if they breed like rabbits and can't feed the x childern they have, why on earth do they go for the X+1+1+1+1' th child?
Education is one thing, idiocity is another.
Educate the people.
Kill the missionaries.
Better?
Except Africa is, by the majority, not Christian. You can't blame the pope on this one.
I could say a few pointed things about an0n's character, but I won't.
Of course I do. What's the point in posting at all if not to get people to read it.
Making up facts really helps your argument.No...but 5% is better than 0%, even if it is clothed in scumbaginess, don't you think? If you were dying, would you rather recieve 2,000 dollars for your treatment (when it really costs $10,000), or nothing?
And don't forget; 5% of their sales is a LOT of money. Not as much as the other 95%, but it's still a lot.
Yes, but you're ignoring the fact that all recognized religions, including atheism, consider putting a single dollar in Bono's pocket a sin of the worst kind, for which there is no redemption or forgiveness. Pope Leo IV based his entire tenure on the principle of "Thou shalt pay no dividends to assholes", and IIRC the Dalai Lama issued a decree to the same effect.
edit: also, what aldo said. I don't know about you, but the suffering of million is maybe not the right thing to make a buck, or a million, off of.
Funny thing: Jesus said, "You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me." in response to Judas saying that some chick shouldn't pour perfume on JC's feet cos it was so expensive; they should give the money to the poor instead.
The simple fact is that we can't fix the problem, and by donating food and water and **** we're just prolonging it and upping the final death toll.
But if we spend the next 10 years watching Africa slowly depopulate itself, 20 years from now they'll have an actual economy and no more starvation.
Funny thing: Jesus said, "You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me." in response to Judas saying that some chick shouldn't pour perfume on JC's feet cos it was so expensive; they should give the money to the poor instead.
What a selfish wankpot; "oh, let's let the baby starve, because I want lilac scented feet".
So what do you do if you're face to face with God? What she did was give him the most valuable thing she had on hand: namely, her perfume. So he commended her, because it was a deep and meaningful act of worship.I can just picture it...
Everybody around them at the time had the same reaction. :) But it's important to see where he was coming from. Think of it this way:
It's God.
On Earth.
In the same room as you.
So what do you do if you're face to face with God? What she did was give him the most valuable thing she had on hand: namely, her perfume. So he commended her, because it was a deep and meaningful act of worship.
So what do you do if you're face to face with God?
**** worship, I'd rather save a baby.
In all seriousness, my first reaction was, quite literally, 'selfish dick'. I mean, come on. He could at least have some degree of modesty; Judas - bloody Judas - is the one recommending giving to help others?! Would a 'cheers, but others need it more' not be a tad more holier-than-thou?
I'd tell him to pull his ****ing finger out and start doing something useful for once...
I don't know how good an argument that is Goober. According to the book he was willing to and did end his life in order to save mankind which kind of seems a bit strange when you think that he was unwilling to make a much less ominous, selfless act by allowing someone to use their money for the benefit of those who were worse off.
Also, someone that powerful and benevolent doesn't need to be worshipped.
Not wishing to get into a religousitily type arguement, but if you view Jesus as the well-meaning but ultimately rather deluded leader of a cult, rather than actually being the son of God sent to earth, then the whole perfume on feet rather than money to poor isn't all that defensible. A bit of a 'let them eat cake' type moment, really.
1 Corinthians 15:19
If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.
Also, someone that powerful and benevolent doesn't need to be worshipped.Of course they do, where do you think they get their power?
While he was in Bethany, reclining at the table in the home of a man known as Simon the Leper, a woman came with an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, made of pure nard. She broke the jar and poured the perfume on his head.The part in bold is what you may want to take a closer look at in your debate.
Some of those present were saying indignantly to one another, "Why this waste of perfume? It could have been sold for more than a year's wages and the money given to the poor." And they rebuked her harshly.
"Leave her alone," said Jesus. "Why are you bothering her? She has done a beautiful thing to me. The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want. But you will not always have me. She did what she could. She poured perfume on my body beforehand to prepare for my burial. I tell you the truth, wherever the gospel is preached throughout the world, what she has done will also be told, in memory of her."
In other words, if Jesus isn't who he said he is, if there's no hope of eternity, then Christians are the biggest fools on the planet. The Bible doesn't shirk from admitting that. :)