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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rictor on January 27, 2006, 02:02:57 pm
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17943650-13762,00.html
Let me just say, on the record: this is ****ing awesome.
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That is, indeed, nothing short of awesome. I hope it actually happens.
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Am I the only one who thinks the US is going to try extremely hard to sabotage this?
But on a lighter note, I read the first line that makes reference to a 'rare mineral', and for some strange reason I instantly thought 'Tilium!!'
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oh that joke never gets old :sigh:
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The Americans are going to be the first to start mining H3. No doubt in my mind about that.
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17943650-13762,00.html
Let me just say, on the record: this is ****ing awesome.
They can't do that! They copied part of the backplot of TVWP Chapter 1!
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I hope at one point this becomes a global venture.
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The Americans are going to be the first to start mining H3. No doubt in my mind about that.
Replace that with China I think. American's are a bit less excited about space travel with shuttles burning up on re-entry.
IMO, NASA should scrap manned flights when they are...
A. Unecessary.
B. Grossly Expensive.
C. Dangerous.
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You're right, China is in the running, but I still think the USA will be the ones.
After all, they are fit to gain most form it I guess (biggest electricity consumer right?), considering just a few tonnes (20?) of H3 could power the entire country for how much.... a year?
Anyway, I'm talking out of my ass for the most part, but I doubt the US would allow anyone to taste the forbidden fruit before them.
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Jealously is the great motivation behind all advancement.
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Jealously is the great motivation behind all advancement.
Indeed, it's how man landed on the moon... well, we would have landed on the moon, had the US not conducted a massive conspiricy to lie to the entire world and trick them into believing Americans walked on the lunar surface...
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I sense a great disturbance in the force.
The force tells me to run the **** out of this thread because a massive argument of moon-landing-theories is coming.
I love the force. It saves my ass. Byebye.
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China will not be the victor in the race to mine H3.
After all, China does not exist.
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Am I the only one who thinks the US is going to try extremely hard to sabotage this?
But on a lighter note, I read the first line that makes reference to a 'rare mineral', and for some strange reason I instantly thought 'Tilium!!'
Yes, of course the U.S. will. :rolleyes:
As far as the topic of Russian Moonbases goes, I expect to see good things come of this. Though, does Russia have the economy to support something like this?
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wow i love the antiAmerican sentiment here :doubt:
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Not at all. Just playing up the US-Russia rivalry. They were the first to reach space, but America was the first on the moon. First one to land anything on Mars too. So the race continues, with a moon base and a manned mission to Mars as the next big objectives.
Though I am puzzled as to why NASA is so unambitious. I mean, surely they have access to more money than either the Russians or Chinese, and a pretty clear public mandate to get out there and win one for America, so why are they flying around in old shuttles when they could be building newer and better ones than anyone, including the Europeans. Hell, diverting even a small portion of the yearly 500-billion military budget to space exploration would surely pay for a moon base with moon jacuzzis and moon pies for everyone.
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I dont doubt you are, im refering to others' comments though
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Because the policy makers are too busy playing prophecy-maker in the Middle East as opposed to doing things that will actually create humanity's destiny.
But when you're busy listening to the crazy blonde in your head screaming about god's plan...
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Well, NASA did have that shuttle burn up on re-entry recently. Didn't NASA do research on how to make a better rocket booster, one that didnt have all sorts of crap that flew off of it during takeoff? Maybe they're trying to research better ways to get into space, and better vehicles to use in space before setting thier sights on putting an installation on the moon first.
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The thing is, NASA isn't unambitious, it's just the US Public get tired of things like this veeeery quickly. Take the Lunar Landings (which were faked btw, but that's beside the point), by the third or fourth mission, nobody really cared, at least, compared to the fanfare of the Apollo 11. Popularity over the Space Shuttle and soforth is nowhere near as high as it was back then, and it never will be. What the US needs is a good ol' fashioned Cold War to get her moving again.
Am I the only one who thinks the US is going to try extremely hard to sabotage this?
But on a lighter note, I read the first line that makes reference to a 'rare mineral', and for some strange reason I instantly thought 'Tilium!!'
Yes, of course the U.S. will. :rolleyes:
As far as the topic of Russian Moonbases goes, I expect to see good things come of this. Though, does Russia have the economy to support something like this?
Say what? I was merely suggesting that the US might not take this lying down. Greed is a powerful force these days.
Sales representative - "...you'll be on you way to the Moon! And while you're there, pick up some of that nice, green Moon Money for me; Hank McKutchin"
Homer - "No deal, McKutchin! That Moon Money's mine!!"
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The thing is, NASA isn't unambitious, it's just the US Public get tired of things like this veeeery quickly. Take the Lunar Landings (which were faked btw, but that's beside the point), by the third or fourth mission, nobody really cared, at least, compared to the fanfare of the Apollo 11. Popularity over the Space Shuttle and soforth is nowhere near as high as it was back then, and it never will be. What the US needs is a good ol' fashioned Cold War to get her moving again.
Droning on, and on, and on. I'll just add you to the five or ten other conspiracy-mongers in the world.
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Interesting in concept. Wonder if they'll actually be able to do it. While Mir had an impressive lifetime, by and large that thing's official motto was 'Please may I get off now?". They certainly have the rocketry know how.
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Lunar Landings (which were faked btw, but that's beside the point)
You couldn't actually believe that.
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
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The thing is, NASA isn't unambitious, it's just the US Public get tired of things like this veeeery quickly. Take the Lunar Landings (which were faked btw, but that's beside the point), by the third or fourth mission, nobody really cared, at least, compared to the fanfare of the Apollo 11.
Which is surely the biggest proof of the fact that the landings were not faked. If they were by Apollo 14 they'd be finding a moon brothel run by the triple breasted whore of Eroticon 6 in order to keep interest. :)
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You couldn't actually believe that.
I see they've already gotten to you. One minute you're just an ordinary person, the next you've got a tracking device implanted in one of your teeth, and you're doing their bidding... :nervous:
Honestly, am I the only crackpot conspiracy theorist on the entire forums!?
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Isn't there a treaty or pact against mining of Moon resources? Or did that run out?
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Is there? All I know is that no nation/person is allowed to claim any part of space as their own. Too bad really, I'd like to own the Sun. Then I could rent it to the world poulation for ****load of money. And If they wouldn't pay... Well theres no telling what I'd do. :drevil:
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Russians, Mining, Moon...
I was half-expecting the word 'Biometal' to turn up.
That's from Battlezone, one of the cooler games out there.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Treaty
Russia didn't sign it thogh, nor did USA and China
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Thats cool and everything, the more space activity the better, but are they planning on actually having controlled fusion reactions by 2020? Because otherwise why would there be any demand for H3?
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You couldn't actually believe that.
I see they've already gotten to you. One minute you're just an ordinary person, the next you've got a tracking device implanted in one of your teeth, and you're doing their bidding... :nervous:
Honestly, am I the only crackpot conspiracy theorist on the entire forums!?
Yes. :p
Russians, Mining, Moon...
I was half-expecting the word 'Biometal' to turn up.
That's from Battlezone, one of the cooler games out there.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/news-item38.htm
God bless Canadia. ;)
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If Russia builds a base on the moon it will be run by the mob, which, let's face it, would be pretty ****ing awesome.
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http://www.howstuffworks.com/news-item38.htm
O...M...F...G...
That is very cool. I wondered when a means of mass-producing spider silk for industry would be developed.
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NEWS;
Russian shuttle flights suspended to Mars after government signs economic treaty with NASA
Robo-Putin - "Not politically motivated'
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They already have the ESA eating out of their palms. ;) ;)
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May I kindly redirect you to this thread:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,26705.0.html
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either way, this bodes well for space exploration via greed, as when the big commercial mining conglomerates realise that there's some serious money to be made on them thar planets/asteroids
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FLY ME TO THE MOON
WE'VE BLED THE EARTH
THERE'S NOTHING LEFT
DOLLARS IN THE HEAVENS
GUESS WE'LL MAKE OUR FORTUNES YET
AS WE LEAVE THIS WORLD TO THE POOR
THE RICH ARE OFF TO THE MOON...
NASA, NUMBER ONE AIRLINE
THE MOTHER SHIP OF GREEDY DREAMS
SPACE HOTELS IN OUR LIFETIME
NO PEACE FOR THE SEA OF TRANQUILITY
SO LEAVE THIS WORLD TO THE POOR
THE RICH ARE OFF TO THE MOON...
(BECAUSE) THERE'S DOLLARS IN THE HEAVENS
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
THE MOON OWNED BY MULTINATIONALS
THE STARS ARRANGED IN NEON SIGNS
HOPE THEY'RE HIT BY AN ASTEROID
IF THEY TRY AND LEAVE THIS MESS BEHIND...
(BECAUSE) THERE'S DOLLARS IN THE HEAVENS
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
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either way, this bodes well for space exploration via greed, as when the big commercial mining conglomerates realise that there's some serious money to be made on them thar planets/asteroids
You're a hopeless idealist if you think anything other than capitalism or nationalism would be the reason to stay in space. I'd almost cut it down to just capitalism, as nationalism doesn't seem to keep people up there very long.
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either way, this bodes well for space exploration via greed, as when the big commercial mining conglomerates realise that there's some serious money to be made on them thar planets/asteroids
You're a hopeless idealist if you think anything other than capitalism or nationalism would be the reason to stay in space. I'd almost cut it down to just capitalism, as nationalism doesn't seem to keep people up there very long.
actually, that's not sarcasm, i was being quite serious, hell, half of the colonisation of some of the most insane terrain on some countries were spurred on by one little thing.....gold.
Greed is the one driving force humanity can use to its advantage, bugger scientific knowledge, we can get that on the way to where we can line our wallets. :nod:
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I wasn't calling you a hopeless idealist, I was just building off your comment. Hence the quote.
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FLY ME TO THE MOON
WE'VE BLED THE EARTH
THERE'S NOTHING LEFT
DOLLARS IN THE HEAVENS
GUESS WE'LL MAKE OUR FORTUNES YET
AS WE LEAVE THIS WORLD TO THE POOR
THE RICH ARE OFF TO THE MOON...
NASA, NUMBER ONE AIRLINE
THE MOTHER SHIP OF GREEDY DREAMS
SPACE HOTELS IN OUR LIFETIME
NO PEACE FOR THE SEA OF TRANQUILITY
SO LEAVE THIS WORLD TO THE POOR
THE RICH ARE OFF TO THE MOON...
(BECAUSE) THERE'S DOLLARS IN THE HEAVENS
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
THE MOON OWNED BY MULTINATIONALS
THE STARS ARRANGED IN NEON SIGNS
HOPE THEY'RE HIT BY AN ASTEROID
IF THEY TRY AND LEAVE THIS MESS BEHIND...
(BECAUSE) THERE'S DOLLARS IN THE HEAVENS
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
ALL TO PLAY FOR AS THE EARTH DIES
That has a true ring to it.