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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tyrian on January 31, 2006, 03:02:07 pm
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I had a little free time and I did some thinking on FS2. I wondered what it would be like if some movie producer ever got the idea of making FS2 into a movie. Granted this will probably never happen, but I looked through my old movie library and found something I think is as close (in my opinion) as we would ever get to one.
Title: Titan A.E.
True, it's an animated movie, but you won't find any sappy song or dance in it. (They kill that possibility pretty quickly when the Earth gets blown away...Which looks really f***ing cool!)
The part that reminds me most about FS2 is the Drej (the bad guys, who actually look like humanoid blue Shivans, minus the 5th arm) and their fighters (Stingers -- these look suspiciously like Manticores, so much so I think they drew inspiration from them.)
If someone does rent this movie, maybe it could give some inspiration for a new campaign...or at least fodder for a post on it.
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This was brought up a long time ago, when the movie first came out, actually.
And anyway, I always thought that the Drej ships looked more like these, from Descent II:
(http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/952279971-00.jpg)
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This was brought up a long time ago, when the movie first came out, actually.
And anyway, I always thought that the Drej ships looked more like these, from Descent II:
(http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/952279971-00.jpg)
No hotlinking for you!
Oh, and http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,38115.0.html
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Jesus, now everyone's paranoid :doubt:
And this is the picture I meant:
(http://www.opaquedream.com/images/gameost_descent2.jpg)
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Oh crap! Someone get a fly swatter, quick! :D
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I had a little free time and I did some thinking on FS2. I wondered what it would be like if some movie producer ever got the idea of making FS2 into a movie. Granted this will probably never happen, but I looked through my old movie library and found something I think is as close (in my opinion) as we would ever get to one.
Title: Titan A.E.
True, it's an animated movie, but you won't find any sappy song or dance in it. (They kill that possibility pretty quickly when the Earth gets blown away...Which looks really f***ing cool!)
The part that reminds me most about FS2 is the Drej (the bad guys, who actually look like humanoid blue Shivans, minus the 5th arm) and their fighters (Stingers -- these look suspiciously like Manticores, so much so I think they drew inspiration from them.)
If someone does rent this movie, maybe it could give some inspiration for a new campaign...or at least fodder for a post on it.
There are certain Shivan resemblances in the fighters, yeah. Makes it even more of a shame the movie's ****e.
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Pshaw. I thought it was good. But then again, I was maybe 16 when I saw it, so...
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Well at least he didn't say Battlefield Earth
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They only kind of resemble Shivan ships. And then, a lot of scifi ships do.
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I thought Titan AE was pretty good when I saw it. It's that post-apocalyptic universe that seems to work for me. Felt like a good mix of Firefly and FS2.
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As far as I'm concerned, animation is only good for comedy. Animated movies that take themselves seriously-- especially when they include action-- are just stupid.
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Wow, don't be an ignorant dumbass or anything Ford.
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Seconded there.
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As far as I'm concerned, animation is only good for comedy. Animated movies that take themselves seriously-- especially when they include action-- are just stupid.
Obviously, you've not seen some of the more... exotic forms of animation out there... :nervous:
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I'm sorry but I can't take something seriously if I'm looking at drawn people with their contorting expressions and weird motions. Unless they're functioning as caricatures, expressionistic reflections of reality, or some other use that is whimsical, or at least semi-ironic, I just find it silly. I see an unnecessary layer of interpretation that just distracts me from any important aspect of the universe being conveyed.
You can throw a thousand reasons at me as to why a filmmaker would choose animation over live action, and I'm sure some are legitimate; I'm just telling you the end result of that artistic decision when I view the work.
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Sort of a skewed view if you ask me, but of course, some things aren't for everyone.
Making generalistic statements like the one above though is sort of hazardous since you're in a heavy minority when it comes to this, and I'd assume inexperienced to boot considering some animated features out there that re-define cinematography these days.
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I'll be honest with you Ford; not only do I think you're wrong, but your use of large words has confused me into being unable to respond to your argument.
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I'm sorry but I can't take something seriously if I'm looking at drawn people
Congratulations, you've just dismissed all non-photographic depictions of the human form as "stupid".
Farkwit.
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No I haven't; you have used my words out of context instead of taking them as a whole, which makes it appear as though you didn't read what I had to say. And I know that isn't true because no one would do such a discourtesy to someone simply positing an argument.
BlackDove: They redefined animated cinematography, which, of course, I fully respect as a craft. But again, just because great craftsmanship and artistry go into the work's creation doesn't mean that the method resonates with me, or that I can fully understand what other people get out of it.
Anyway, I'm used to having minority opinions.
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Eh. Go to the video store and rent Castle in the Sky by Hayao Miyazaki.
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Anyway, I'm used to having minority opinions.
It seems likely your "minority opinion" in this case is actually caused by some brain disfunction which denies you the capacity to properly interpret human facial expressions on anything other than a literal human face.
/not entirely kidding
//that, or you've simply never seen any good non-humorous animation
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It seems like I'm not responding to you anymore.
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Eh. Go to the video store and rent Castle in the Sky by Hayao Miyazaki.
*slap*
That be Laputa or Tenki no Shiro: Laputa.
But that's actually not one of the greater ones.
Personally I'd reccomend Ghost in the Shell followed by GITS2: Innocence if we were going for grand-depictions-of-****ing-awesome. Laputa is really for kids (though it rocks hard for adults as well).
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it'll die like the rest.
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Ugh, not GitS. That overrated pseudo-philosophical twaddle falls squarely in the "well it makes sense if you've read the manga" category.
The series is quite good though.
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speaking of Titan, check out the writing credits and screenplay: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120913/fullcredits#writers
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Cartoons were depicting the News long before photography was.
I quite liked Titan AE, but still think Starchaser : Legend of Orin was a far better film, if much much older, great music and a Humphrey Bogart lookalike, you couldn't go wrong ;)
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Ugh, not GitS. That overrated pseudo-philosophical twaddle falls squarely in the "well it makes sense if you've read the manga" category.
The series is quite good though.
Saw ten episodes, it was allright but nothing special considering the character development is non-existant to fake at best considering the whole point and punchline was evolution.
And as far as the movies go, err? It all makes sense without the manga. I never read the manga, never need to.
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The series doesn't have any character development because it's not supposed to. Each episode is intended to be (ahem) stand-alone.
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Yeah, I got that, but no character development just simply isn't my cup of tea. I mean the action is great and the stories are great, the art as well, no problems there. But no character development makes it too dry for my taste.
I need the experience gained and coherent interaction with emotional consequences for... well, a sense of realism if nothing else. Without it it's like watching... "ghosts" heh.
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The series pulled a "Matrix: Revolutions" at the end, where the last 10 minutes of the last episode were of some super smart person yalking about how the entire universe is "something" (I say something because I don't even know what they were talking about, that's how confusing it was. At least in the Matrix it was "choice" or whatever). It was an OK series, but it suffered from trying to be too Goddamn smart.
And BTW, the series did become relatively episodic towards the middle.
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Ford, maybe you should find Grave of the Fireflies.
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The series pulled a "Matrix: Revolutions" at the end
That would be the second season? I thought the first season ender was a more action-packed affair.
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speaking of Titan, check out the writing credits and screenplay: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120913/fullcredits#writers
And that would be why it felt so much like Firefly then.
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Titan A.E. eh? Well I was a Don Bluth fan since Dragon's Lair and Space Ace so i had high hopes for Titan A.E., back in the distant past. Oh yeah the first few minutes are fantastic. The earth gets blown to pieces with huge chunks of it wiping out the fleeing ships (which I always though was particularly evil :D ) then you get that fantastic Electrasy track Cosmic Castaway which sets the scene perfectly. Once that's out the way, things fall apart pretty fast. The characterization is the problem. I simply couldn't get on with any of the alien characters (which is most of them). Killed the film stone dead for me.
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Saw this one ages ago on TV...
The film itself was ok, but it was nothing special really...
The characterization and the certain scenes were too simple/not realistic/didn't have the dark feeling they supposed to have...
GITS on the other side is great :yes:
I liked both the first movie and TV series ( it was a bit high-tech so you needed to listen carefully or you wouldn't understand many subtle plot features ;))
The second movie had great special effects, but the story was a bit messed up ( at least I had troubles till the end part of the movie to get everything right :lol: )
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Second movie was a masterpiece (provided you understood it of course) as far as I'm concerned.
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Titan A.E. eh? Well I was a Don Bluth fan since Dragon's Lair and Space Ace so i had high hopes for Titan A.E.
You do realize that 90% of Don Bluth's movies are crap, right?
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Whispers...
Macross Zero
AppleSeed
That's what I call Masterpieces :nod:
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Why is it that with all the anime "masterpiecies" that everyone always seems to say, 99.9% of them are unintellagable and oftentimes too complex to even understand what's going on? Does it make people feel better and "deeper" when they can't understand the movie?
And anyway, Macross Zero is indeed balls to the wall awesome, but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece. Macross: DYRL? belongs in that category though :D
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Wow...didn't expect this much of a response to such a simple start.
I don't have a lot of time now but I may post a reply tommorow.
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Titan A.E. eh? Well I was a Don Bluth fan since Dragon's Lair and Space Ace so i had high hopes for Titan A.E.
You do realize that 90% of Don Bluth's movies are crap, right?
:lol: Yes I realised that pretty quicky. After seeing his laser disc games I had this theory. "hey this guy could make something really quite dark and very cool!". It never quite panned out in reality though as he just made inane movies about animals :ick:. When I heard about Titan though it seemed that he was finally going to live up to my expectations, and he did, for the first few minutes at least. Even now I find it hard to dislike the guy. I often find myself thinking that Titan could have been really good. Maybe next time? Clearly I'll never learn :).
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You do realize that 90% of Don Bluth's movies are crap, right?
Don Bluth's greatest sin, however, is inspiring David Gonterman.