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Title: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Ace on February 17, 2006, 02:48:49 pm
(http://www.savant-online.net/graphics/bwo_screen16.jpg)

The Golgotha being destroyed by a Hecate?
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Taristin on February 17, 2006, 03:27:21 pm
"**** happens" ?
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Genoism on February 17, 2006, 03:51:44 pm
i get it, the shivans took over that ship. hah its all clear now.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: bfobar on February 17, 2006, 03:58:26 pm
<---- Intrigued.

I see from the hud that beta, gamma, and delta wings are in typical red-shirt form.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Ace on February 17, 2006, 04:50:54 pm
Let's just say that normally in the campaign that doesn't happen ;) (redshirtage)
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 17, 2006, 07:23:07 pm
Better to be lucky then good.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Depth_Charge on February 19, 2006, 06:51:18 pm
That Hecate, seems to last alot longer.  I figure since the Golgotha got, 3 Large Beams on the side.  If i remember on one of the old pics.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Taristin on February 19, 2006, 06:56:54 pm
Yeh. everything I read said that the Golgotha was weak as an eg gfrom the sides, but if you're in front you're f00ked.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Turnsky on February 19, 2006, 07:08:11 pm
the man wasn't lying, i am intrigued.  ;)
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Ace on February 19, 2006, 09:07:44 pm
Ah, you're referring to this old pre-HTL screen:
(http://www.savant-online.net/graphics/bwo_screen7.jpg)
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Cobra on February 20, 2006, 09:42:57 pm
Interesting.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: FireCrack on February 21, 2006, 02:29:42 am
What's a better situation, infront of a sthanas or infront of a golgotha?
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Ace on February 21, 2006, 02:40:47 am
Depends on if you're in a bomber armed with helios torpedoes or not ;)
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: bfobar on February 23, 2006, 04:03:15 pm
Depends on if you're in a bomber armed with helios torpedoes or not ;)

also depends on whether whatever that ship is going to shoot at is behind you.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Genoism on February 24, 2006, 02:48:42 am
also depends if yur the only person around :D
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: bfobar on February 24, 2006, 09:30:16 pm
I would hope that the golgatha would not do as much sustained damage because it would take forever to power up and glow and look scary.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Depth_Charge on February 24, 2006, 10:27:53 pm
Now with the "Golgatha" Meson beam cannon has the same fire power as the Sath forward beam canons? (all four of them)???  Or i have to figure it out til its release???
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Ace on February 25, 2006, 01:07:02 am
All I'll say is that, there's enough firepower there to make things interesting.

Such a shame that there aren't any Shivans in BWO. ;)
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 25, 2006, 06:09:46 pm
The Sathanas probably beats out the Golgotha in damage-over-time since it can fire faster, but salvo-for-salvo they can both waste a destroyer instantly.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Genoism on February 25, 2006, 07:19:40 pm
All I'll say is that, there's enough firepower there to make things interesting.

Such a shame that there aren't any Shivans in BWO. ;)
hehe thats what i said :D
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: BlackDove on February 26, 2006, 01:07:00 pm
Trust me, you don't want to know.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Depth_Charge on February 26, 2006, 04:34:57 pm
Oh man it was way out there....(looks out into the distances)...... ;7
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: IceFire on March 02, 2006, 06:31:10 pm
Now with the "Golgatha" Meson beam cannon has the same fire power as the Sath forward beam canons? (all four of them)???  Or i have to figure it out til its release???
Mmmm it works a bit differently I suppose....a Golgotha class would never want to be going toe to toe by itself with a Sathanas as it couldn't take the hits.  But the battle would be very interesting :)
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Turnsky on March 03, 2006, 07:11:19 am
so it's basically a big sniper rifle?, and not a big tank like a sath.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: IceFire on March 05, 2006, 10:46:49 am
so it's basically a big sniper rifle?, and not a big tank like a sath.
That'd be a better analogy...yes.  I'm firmly opposed to the progressive bigger fish eats the smaller fish thing that was happening in the MOD community around the time that BWO was being developed.  In the age of mega destroyers of 10KM or 15KM or 20KM long goodness I decided that a ship just a bit bigger than a Hecate or Orion with a really big gun was the better more appealing option.  The Golgotha is a compromise...the vast majority of the ship is devoted to either the main meson weapon and associated systems or with the propulsion as a means of getting it to a place where it can use the aformentioned weapon.  Fight compliment is very small as well.

The Hecate or even the Orion are far superior as an overall battleship...but when you need something big blown to small tiny pieces you send in a Golgotha. Thats the concept.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Turnsky on March 05, 2006, 07:03:36 pm
so it's basically a big sniper rifle?, and not a big tank like a sath.
That'd be a better analogy...yes.  I'm firmly opposed to the progressive bigger fish eats the smaller fish thing that was happening in the MOD community around the time that BWO was being developed.  In the age of mega destroyers of 10KM or 15KM or 20KM long goodness I decided that a ship just a bit bigger than a Hecate or Orion with a really big gun was the better more appealing option.  The Golgotha is a compromise...the vast majority of the ship is devoted to either the main meson weapon and associated systems or with the propulsion as a means of getting it to a place where it can use the aformentioned weapon.  Fight compliment is very small as well.

The Hecate or even the Orion are far superior as an overall battleship...but when you need something big blown to small tiny pieces you send in a Golgotha. Thats the concept.
a more logical concept given how military resources would be.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: Getter Robo G on March 11, 2006, 11:29:09 am
Great stuff...

@Firecrack, "c'mon, every mod has Shivans, even the BSG mod does!" - sure, lay off the crack :D ...

Been awhile, a MESON beam of Doom? I figured it had the standard Big Blue Archangel Beam of Doom still... Regardless, I would NOT want to be anywhere near the front firing arc! "Ooo, what a pretty shade of white, AARGH! (Kaboom)"  :lol:


Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: kingdragon on March 31, 2006, 01:28:55 pm
It's easy.

The Golgotha's bfg has a limited field of fire.

The Hectate simply jumped 'gasp' BEHIND the ship and started blasting.

Either that or Alpha 1 already damaged it despite his red-shirted wingmates.
Title: Re: BWO Screen of Intrigue#1
Post by: IceFire on April 17, 2006, 09:02:54 pm
Great stuff...

@Firecrack, "c'mon, every mod has Shivans, even the BSG mod does!" - sure, lay off the crack :D ...

Been awhile, a MESON beam of Doom? I figured it had the standard Big Blue Archangel Beam of Doom still... Regardless, I would NOT want to be anywhere near the front firing arc! "Ooo, what a pretty shade of white, AARGH! (Kaboom)"  :lol:

Basically the Golgotha's Meson Beam weapon takes the Meson bomb technology to the next step.  The reaction created by the bombs is instead channeled into energy feeding the particle beam and the design channels what is in effect a series of power surges through the system into the emitter and firing at the designated target.  When I did a test...three Golgotha class destroyers took out a Sathanas in under 40 seconds while maintaing a range that was out of the Sathanas main beam weapons.  Although the Sathanas class is no doubt superior overall...good tactics would allow the Golgothas to effectively combat the larger type despite being far smaller than the Colossus.