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Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 06, 2001, 10:57:00 pm
I'm about halfway through my Rendering Cockpit project, and rapidly running out of ideas. Lighting, color, and distortion by the glass aside, what's missing here?

 (http://www.wpierce.com/wlp/FS2/ragnarok/cockpit.jpg)

Eventually I hope to have it as detailed as the  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) one...
Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Shrike on October 06, 2001, 11:05:00 pm
Um, a working picture?
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Post by: Carl on October 06, 2001, 11:22:00 pm
 that's funny, cause i see a color, and it's red.
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Post by: Shrike on October 06, 2001, 11:34:00 pm
Nope, I'm just getting a 404 on the image.
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Post by: NeoHunter on October 07, 2001, 12:20:00 am
Same here. Maybe he can just email the picture to all of us. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Get the link working man. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Setekh on October 07, 2001, 02:19:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Um, a working picture?
Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 07, 2001, 11:03:00 am
Hmmmm.... works fine on my side. I'll look into it, probably another prob with my DAMN SERVER!!!!!

*sigh* What next, what next?
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Post by: Nico on October 07, 2001, 11:40:00 am
lol, I have the same chair in my room =D
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Post by: Stryke 9 on October 07, 2001, 11:52:00 am
Ditto. I got lazy in some parts- but at least with the chair I removed the legs and added something tougher looking.
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Post by: Fozzy on October 07, 2001, 12:51:00 pm
joy stick and rudder pedals
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Post by: DragonClaw on October 07, 2001, 12:51:00 pm
  I can think of 3 things it needs off the hat. It needs:

1. A bunch of safety belts(hey you ARE pulling Gs out there)
2. More electronic equipment(ever seen the inside of military cockpit? Well, there's a lot, and imagine how much electronic equipment would be in a space fighter! The shuttle is bad enough!)
3. The chair needs to be "build in", get rid of the legs, make the part where you lean on go back further. Ahh, in fact, redo the entire chair, it doesn't fit at all. take a look at military fighters.

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Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Fozzy on October 07, 2001, 12:53:00 pm
edjector seat
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Post by: Nico on October 07, 2001, 02:12:00 pm
want to see how a cockpit looks like in freespace?

 (http://www.descent-3.com/freespace/cockpit/cok24.jpg)

there's many others pics of the cockpit there:
 http://www.descent-freespace.com/goodies/gallery/cockpit/ ("http://www.descent-freespace.com/goodies/gallery/cockpit/")



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Post by: wEvil on October 07, 2001, 02:28:00 pm
I would havce imagined by the 23rd century they would have gotten more simple instrumentation designs and controls.

and some ****  just stole my car.  I hope they choke on their own vomit.




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Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Nico on October 07, 2001, 02:34:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by wEvil:
I would havce imagined by the 23rd century they would have gotten more simple instrumentation designs and controls.

and some ****  just stole my car.  I hope they choke on their own vomit.



seeing how things are going, I think there won't be pilots in the 23rd century fighters.
Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Setekh on October 08, 2001, 02:34:00 am
Ah, I see it. Not bad. Speaking of pilots in fighters... stuff fighters. Gimme cruise missiles. Tomahawks 0wn j00, suckas!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

wEvil: Damn man. I'm sorry that happened  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) Good luck finding it, or getting a new car. :/
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Post by: NeoHunter on October 08, 2001, 04:31:00 am
In that cockpit picture of from FreeSpace that Venom posted, I must note something.

Notice the HUD? Well, its ON the dashboard or what ever you call that where all the instruments are. Anyway, in game, our view is totally the occupied by the whole HUD.

Here's the ten million dollar question. Does Alpha One fly with his face stuck to the HUD glass?

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Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 08, 2001, 07:18:00 am
 
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
In that cockpit picture of from FreeSpace that Venom posted, I must note something.

Notice the HUD? Well, its ON the dashboard or what ever you call that where all the instruments are. Anyway, in game, our view is totally the occupied by the whole HUD.

Here's the ten million dollar question. Does Alpha One fly with his face stuck to the HUD glass?

See the 2  '|-|' shaped things to the laft and right of the HUD?  He holds onto those  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Eishtmo on October 08, 2001, 11:00:00 am
You know, there are commands to look around out various points in the cockpit, if I remember correctly.  It just goes to show you how well designed the HUD is that you only need to look out it to get everything you need.

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Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 08, 2001, 03:52:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Eishtmo:
You know, there are commands to look around out various points in the cockpit, if I remember correctly.

You're thinking Falcon series, where they have the controls on all sides and you have to turn and look at them. But it's made to compress the screen, a lot of that (like the comm, which is currently at the bottom and needs to be moved in mine) is just NOT going to be on the HUD because that would restrict vision. The view you get in FreeSpace is not ony bigger than that little HUD, it's bigger than your fighter.
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Post by: Nico on October 08, 2001, 04:31:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Stryke 9:
The view you get in FreeSpace is not ony bigger than that little HUD, it's bigger than your fighter.

true, and that sux.
Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 08, 2001, 08:12:00 pm
  (http://www.wpierce.com/wlp/FS2/ragnarok/cockview.jpg)  

Image distorted around edges, RDS makes wide-angle wiews look like camera wide-angle shots. What is missing- specifically?

And its application in Comm animations, needs to be grayscaled:
  (http://www.wpierce.com/wlp/FS2/ragnarok/cockcomm.jpg)  

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Post by: Bobboau on October 09, 2001, 12:46:00 am
joy stick

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Post by: Setekh on October 09, 2001, 03:30:00 am
Heh, looks good. Need a pilot? I could call in PD...
Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Nico on October 09, 2001, 05:44:00 am
needs a better chair (?), some maps, and a movie on the television lol
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Post by: Stryke 9 on October 09, 2001, 03:46:00 pm
Hmmm... The TV is a mapping issue. I could get a QuickTime movie or anything else on there.
The maps- ? Dunno what that has to do with a fighter.
Getting a throttle in there is going to be hard simply because rthere's not much of a place you can put it w/o blocking some other control... I'll see
And I was just too lazy to fix the chair at the moment. It's in progress.
Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Nico on October 09, 2001, 03:50:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Stryke 9:
Hmmm... The TV is a mapping issue. I could get a QuickTime movie or anything else on there.
The maps- ? Dunno what that has to do with a fighter.
Getting a throttle in there is going to be hard simply because rthere's not much of a place you can put it w/o blocking some other control... I'll see
And I was just too lazy to fix the chair at the moment. It's in progress.

maps = textures
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Post by: Unidan on October 09, 2001, 04:13:00 pm
You're not thinking of putting that in FS, are you? (can you do that)
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Post by: Nico on October 09, 2001, 05:09:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Unidan:
You're not thinking of putting that in FS, are you? (can you do that)

No way. Looking at it, i can already tell you the polycount is too high, and it uses intersecting objects. Plus basically you should make a full ship around it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Smart creative types look here!
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 09, 2001, 07:18:00 pm
 
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maps=textures
That kind of maps, hm? I'm workin' on the dials, everything else IS mapped more or less. Better ones coming if you offer to make 'em- the Voliton stuff is more than difficult to make.

Actually, I did start a full detailed body for it originally, but the computer started getting bogged down so I deleted the rest and stuck to the cockpit. Plus, the body was one of mine, and I get sick of making Sol-exclusive stuff reom time to time.

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Post by: Anduril on October 10, 2001, 06:17:00 pm
Make the cockpit norrower- looks better and easier to fill.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

You have plenty of features! What you need is textures.

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Post by: Stryke 9 on October 11, 2001, 11:41:00 pm
I repeat: anyone wanna try and make  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) quality textures? I'm no good at non-abstract 2D computer art...
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Post by: Carl on October 12, 2001, 12:27:00 am
...and don't have buttons or keyboards on your fighter. let's not get into that again.
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Post by: NeoHunter on October 12, 2001, 03:03:00 am
 
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Originally posted by aldo_14:
See the 2  '|-|' shaped things to the laft and right of the HUD?  He holds onto those   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

....and what how does he/she fly the plane may I ask? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)



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