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Title: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Fineus on February 26, 2006, 07:17:04 pm
I figured this would be of interest to you guys:

http://www.aist.go.jp/aist_e/latest_research/2006/20060210/20060210.html

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The National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology (AIST, President: Hiroyuki Yoshikawa) and Keio University (President: Yuichiro Anzai), in collaboration with Burton Inc. (CEO: Hidei Kimura), have succeeded in the experimental fabrication of a device displaying "real 3D images" which consist of dot arrays in space where there is nothing but air.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on February 26, 2006, 07:18:14 pm
AKA Holographic Projections.

Very cool. I did a school project on these, once.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Flipside on February 26, 2006, 07:20:26 pm
Cool! They don't look unlike early TV Tests too, except in 3D :) It looks very promising :)

Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Solatar on February 26, 2006, 08:33:16 pm
'Help me Obi-wan Kenobi!'
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 26, 2006, 08:48:42 pm
"Look what I can do!"  :nervous:
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Carl on February 26, 2006, 08:50:14 pm
And remember, our current TV images are made of dots, so they only need to follow the same principle. eventually they should be able to put enough dots on one holo-image to duplicate an image.

...the problem, though, it that since we are dealing with light and not matter, none of the dots could be blocked by other dots, and you'd see right through to the other side.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: an0n on February 26, 2006, 09:29:13 pm
Whoop-dee-doo. They've succeeded in burning the air to make little glowing balls.

This idea is like 50 years old or some ****.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2006, 03:41:27 am
The idea might be old, but till now I haven't seen it actually realised. I thought you of all people would be interested in technological advancements...
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: aldo_14 on February 27, 2006, 04:14:50 am
Just wait until the porn industry gets their hands on it, then you'll see the tech level skyrocket.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Turnsky on February 27, 2006, 04:58:58 am
indeed, now imagine C&C with it.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Martinus on February 27, 2006, 06:52:33 am
indeed, now imagine C&C with it.
C&C with porn?

Jack Thompson would have a field day.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Col. Fishguts on February 27, 2006, 07:32:32 am
Just wait until the porn industry gets their hands on it, then you'll see the tech level skyrocket.

Read the article again. The light dots are small plasma balls.

porn + plasma holography + basic male instincts = ouch

We all know that someone would be stupid enough to try it....
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: an0n on February 27, 2006, 08:40:45 am
The idea might be old, but till now I haven't seen it actually realised. I thought you of all people would be interested in technological advancements...
Proper advancement, maybe.

This is basically just to show off. There's no real practical-use advancement.

And I'm pretty sure it'll burn a hole in your hand if you touch one of the balls. Not to mention the power requirements and low resolution mean it's currently good for little more than light shows.

If they can scale it up to do 1000ft-high light sculptures or make it colour, then I might be impressed.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2006, 08:50:18 am
While in practice I agree, you have to admit it's a start...
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Martinus on February 27, 2006, 09:53:18 am
I'd be inclined to believe that the whole thing is enclosed, the photos are up close but in order to get a high enough concentration of phosphoresing gas into such a small area it would have to be encapsulated.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: an0n on February 27, 2006, 12:01:06 pm
Or toxic. But then the inside of lightbulbs are toxic, so I don't see why this would stop them.

At the very least, it'll make for some pretty new art.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Polpolion on February 27, 2006, 01:17:45 pm
The idea might be old, but till now I haven't seen it actually realised. I thought you of all people would be interested in technological advancements...
Proper advancement, maybe.

This is basically just to show off. There's no real practical-use advancement.

And I'm pretty sure it'll burn a hole in your hand if you touch one of the balls. Not to mention the power requirements and low resolution mean it's currently good for little more than light shows.

If they can scale it up to do 1000ft-high light sculptures or make it colour, then I might be impressed.

 well duh, its like the first computers! took up entire rooms but arnt even as powerful as todays digital watches! It does open up new resarch areas, though. or at least id imagine so.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: karajorma on February 27, 2006, 01:53:45 pm
Just wait until the porn industry gets their hands on it, then you'll see the tech level skyrocket.

 Considering that they are responsible for the appearance of the video and DVD markets it's not hard to believe that they could push this very quickly.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Sandwich on February 27, 2006, 02:58:00 pm
I can see it now... Christmas tree lights, sans the actual tree! :p
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Shade on February 27, 2006, 03:04:30 pm
People do that now, they just use wires and bulbs instead. The main hospital in Copenhagen (Rigshospitalet, probably better known as Riget) is a culprit of that, in fact; from a distance it looks like they have a nicely kitted out christmas tree on their highest roof during December, but when you get closer you notice the actual tree is missing :p
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: an0n on February 27, 2006, 03:53:47 pm
I'm not a fan of this technology, BTW.

As it seems like a dead-end to me, insofar as solid colour projections go.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Unknown Target on February 27, 2006, 04:32:33 pm
Just wait until the porn industry gets their hands on it, then you'll see the tech level skyrocket.
Considering that they are responsible for the appearance of the video and DVD markets it's not hard to believe that they could push this very quickly.

Yea, and the millions of video movie rentals had nothing to do with it :doubt:. Everyone says it was porn, but honestly, the only thing that it really helped with was the internet, imo.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: aldo_14 on February 27, 2006, 04:42:34 pm
Just wait until the porn industry gets their hands on it, then you'll see the tech level skyrocket.
Considering that they are responsible for the appearance of the video and DVD markets it's not hard to believe that they could push this very quickly.

Yea, and the millions of video movie rentals had nothing to do with it :doubt:. Everyone says it was porn, but honestly, the only thing that it really helped with was the internet, imo.


Why would it help with the internet and not DVDs?  I've porn not just credited with a key role in DVD but VHS adoption (over Betamax; VHS was cheaper to duplicate); during the early years of the latter the only video-selling places were porno shops.  Reportedly one third of US pay-per-view income is from porn ($2bn), and nearly 70% of in-room charges at the 5 largest hotel chains come from such pay-per-view (whether or not that all star a permatanned German named Hans come to fix a busty lonely housewives' dishwasher is unknown).  Don't forget that the 'millions of video rentals' sort of needed something to occur - shockingly enough, people had to buy videos and DVD players!  (remember, you can't quote the figures of the market to explain it appearing in the first place).

Porn drives early adoption of this sort of technology, because people want to watch smut in private and are willing to pay for it.  That's the leg-up for the market.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Taristin on February 27, 2006, 04:54:03 pm
I've porn not just credited with a key role in DVD but VHS adoption (over Betamax; VHS was cheaper to duplicate);

Freudian slip? ;)
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: karajorma on February 27, 2006, 05:00:00 pm
Yea, and the millions of video movie rentals had nothing to do with it :doubt:

Video rentals only took off once people actually had the players in their houses and needed an excuse other than porn for owning them.

As for DVDs how many other things can you name that use the multi-angle feature? That thing has made for porn written all over it. How many people do you really think are going to buy replays of football matches on DVD just so they can watch them from another angle? That's just the excuse they used when rubbing their hands together over how much money they'd make from selling the players to people in trenchcoats.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: aldo_14 on February 27, 2006, 05:09:30 pm
I've porn not just credited with a key role in DVD but VHS adoption (over Betamax; VHS was cheaper to duplicate);

Freudian slip? ;)

Just call me Raoul the friendly windowcleaner.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Martinus on February 27, 2006, 05:22:01 pm
Just call me Raoul the friendly windowcleaner.
Haven't I seen you at Jackie Treehorn's place?
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: aldo_14 on February 27, 2006, 05:24:10 pm
Just call me Raoul the friendly windowcleaner.
Haven't I seen you at Jackie Treehorn's place?


You should have seen the smears!  Honestly, I had to give my equipment a good hosing down after that one.




I think I've wandered into a Carry On script......
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Descenterace on February 28, 2006, 05:47:51 am
"New technology is first used for science, then for porn, then everything else."

I can't remember where that quote comes from, but it's quite accurate.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: vyper on February 28, 2006, 07:13:37 am
I've porn not just credited with a key role in DVD but VHS adoption (over Betamax; VHS was cheaper to duplicate);

Freudian slip? ;)

Just call me Raoul the friendly windowcleaner.


"Yoohoo, laides.... Look at Raoul bouncing up and down"
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Col. Fishguts on February 28, 2006, 07:18:34 am
Oh god, I've seen that commercial.

"Knock knock, who there ?   .... Raoul there !"
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: aldo_14 on February 28, 2006, 10:07:09 am
"Want to go back to hotel room and make a sandwich?"
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Zeronet on February 28, 2006, 11:36:53 am
Thats pretty near, though i don't believe their any 3d object stuff, because all i see are little balls.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: aldo_14 on February 28, 2006, 04:49:15 pm
Thats pretty near, though i don't believe their any 3d object stuff, because all i see are little balls.

Little balls?  Well, I never!
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: vyper on February 28, 2006, 05:21:40 pm
Indeed, don't mock the afflicted.
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Omniscaper on March 03, 2006, 07:24:19 am
I will not be impressed till i see this up close and personal... (http://www.st-v-sw.net/images/Wars/Special/Endorday/Endorday01.jpg)
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Grug on March 03, 2006, 09:47:24 am
'Help me Obi-wan Kenobi!'
Took the words right out of my mouth. :p


What would happen if you put your hand in the image though?
Would it burn and catch on fire?
Title: Re: 3D Images Developed In Air
Post by: Taristin on March 03, 2006, 12:15:58 pm
I will not be impressed till i see this up close and personal... (http://www.st-v-sw.net/images/Wars/Special/Endorday/Endorday01.jpg)

nor I until I see
(http://www.cgfocus.com/phproot/profiles/emilesmith/Crew---Alliance-hologram_.jpg)