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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on March 06, 2006, 10:28:38 am
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http://eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63138
Table tennis.
No, really.
honestly.
Table. Tennis.
Er.
Yes.
Tennis. On a Table. With ickle pads. and, er, convicning real-time(maybe?) sweat.
Crikey.
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Ah... but you have to look out for the hidden game where you glue razor blades to the edge of your paddle and really go for it ;)
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Uhm.... who would want to play this ?
Table tennis isn't exactly an exotic sport that only few people can afford.
Somehow this smells like an early April 1st joke.
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I guess it is the final indication of a game business running out of original ideas when the latest console features a full-3D shader-based version of the first ever Binatone console game.
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Ah... but you have to look out for the hidden game where you glue razor blades to the edge of your paddle and really go for it ;)
Or where the female tennis player uses her special launching powers to fire out the ball from her...... *cough*.
Uhm.... who would want to play this ?
Table tennis isn't exactly an exotic sport that only few people can afford.
Somehow this smells like an early April 1st joke.
I suspect they're taking the piss as well, given the likes of "true possibilities of a next gen experience" and " resulting in a purer, more visceral experience". (visceral, eh?).
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There will probably be some sort of hidden game mode were you can beat the opposing player to death with the paddle. :p
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(visceral, eh?).
I foresee a Winona-Ryder-mod....
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Something tells me that this is either a mini-game, or more likely, a PR stunt. Nothing shows the general public how bad realistic games would be if it wasn't for substance like a game that has no point to it. Also, too much Specular...
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This is the scene right before the player enters the room with a few friends and gang rapes both players.
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They do it twice, too. :p
As one of my favorite sayings goes "It's not that we don't believe you...well, actually it is that we don't believe you."
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So, freaking, wierd...
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Crikey indeed.
:lol: at the comments. :p
What's so bad about pong? I wouldn't mind an updated version of it? :nod:
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Very funny Rockstar, but we saw right through it. Now stop pretending that you aren't working on GTA 6. :p
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very, very wierd....
Speaking of GTA 6, Rockstar better make sure it comes to the PC first, otherwise....
*Runs to power up Photon Beam Cannon*
:drevil:
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What's so bad about pong? I wouldn't mind an updated version of it? :nod:
Well, its, uh, pong for crying out loud! Who in hell would buy that game.
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Actually, ping pong is pretty damn fast and fun, unlike pong. If they can get this to work with MS's eyetoy clone/new motion detection tech it could be pretty awesome...
But still, WTH.
In other news... Rainbow Six: Vegas just was announced for PC , current-gen, and next-gen consoles, and my gosh, it looks hot (in-game as confirmed by dev on B3D). Still some polishing to be done till its release at the end of the year(door handle), but wow.
(http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/2730/965_0003.jpg)
(http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/2730/965_0002.jpg)
(http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/2730/965_0001.jpg)
Diminishing returns am dead.
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God dammit, Deepblue...
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No love for Rainbow Six here?
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Quick. More screenshots.
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Did you have to hijack another thread for what will essentially become another round of bashing? :sigh:
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This thread had already been exhausted.
Is no one here excited at all?
*leaves*
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*for now*
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This thread had already been exhausted.
Only because you ruined it.
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and I thought I derailed threads....
Notice it's Rockstar San Diego, not Rockstar North. North's always put out the GTA series, IIRC. So, I'm betting this is one of thier little quirky side-projects, sorta like the game that was released based upon a cult-classic movie, that from what I could see, didn't get much praise or attention. I honestly don't know why a cult-classic themed game would sell well unless it was revolutionary in itself. Anyways, if Take2 doesn't get itself out of hot water, we'll probably be seeing more and more of these "other" games instead of the ultra-violent, ultra-profane, and ultra-entertaining games that the North studio is known for.
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Is no one here excited at all?
For what, more bullshot? How many of these damned derailments do we have to suffer through before you understand that we're more mature than getting off on light blooming and high-res textures? If you can provide evidence that these games you keep whoring out actually provide, you know, innovative gameplay, then maybe, just maybe your presence in this thread would have had a point. However, if the only tangent that relates your posts to anything that came before it in this thread is the fact that there's a 360 in the thread title, then even new and innovative gameplay doesn't justify taking the discussion into oblivion.
Anyway, I'd chalk this one up to being random. There's a lot to be said in making a low-budget (relatively) game to test the development environment, if nothing else. I'm sure there's some ulterior point to the game or the announcement when it's all said and done.
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Damn Strat, chill! He's just doing what he gets paid to do. :p
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That screenshot is from the new GTA game. If you beat the chick at table tennis you get to bend her over the table and do the hot coffee thing.
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Heh heh heh. 100% PR stunt, although kudos for backing it up with "screenshots". Speaking of which:
(http://static.flickr.com/32/65990159_ad0b969897.jpg?v=0)
Personally, I think this is far more entertaining than plastercene men who look like they've been under a buffing machine. :)
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(http://static.flickr.com/32/65990159_ad0b969897.jpg?v=0)
Whatssat, like?
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What the 360 displays before it's about to melt, apparently.
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:lol:
And that Rainbow Six game looks aight. Though I think the controls need to be more fear like or something to gain a bit more action. :)
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I actually saw an xbox360 on a shop window today - second hand. You'd think someone willing to shell out such an exorbitant price to buy the thing in the first place would have a bit more patience with it.
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Probably stolen most likely.
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Probably stolen most likely.
What, they're puting them on shelves now?!
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Depends on the shop you saw it in. There was a store in Hull that never had a heating bill cause it's stuff was so hot :)
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I don't get it personally, all of the 360s I've been in contact with are cool to the touch, with the monster-supply slightly warm.
And black is decidedly better than blue. :lol:
EDIT:
I take back what I said about RS:Vegas...
BIA and Gearbox have made UE3 a thing of non-generic beauty...
(http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/2736/963_0001.jpg)
Anyone have any thoughts on what the "r" on the helmets is for? Perhaps a certain someone bit the dust?
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Deepblue
Corporate Shill
:lol:
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Is no one here excited at all?
For what, more bullshot? How many of these damned derailments do we have to suffer through before you understand that we're more mature than getting off on light blooming and high-res textures? If you can provide evidence that these games you keep whoring out actually provide, you know, innovative gameplay, then maybe, just maybe your presence in this thread would have had a point. However, if the only tangent that relates your posts to anything that came before it in this thread is the fact that there's a 360 in the thread title, then even new and innovative gameplay doesn't justify taking the discussion into oblivion.
I'm really sick of this. Almost all of these games are on the PC and PS3 as well, yet you target me as a "corporate shill" for MS. I didn't want to start a new thread, and I thought some people might actually be interested in seeing what the future holds. Furthermore, none of this is "bullshot" this isn't EA. Furthermore, a B3D member working on Vegas confirmed that the FP screenshots were indeed from the current build of the game.
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28857&page=3
Yes, I'm from Ubi, and I'm also part of the R6: Vegas team. Unfortunatelly I can't say much because I'm all NDA'ed up, but I know that those aren't PS3 screenshots. That said, XB360, PS3 and PC will pretty-much all look that nice (with minor variants, and I'm personally guessing PC will look a bit better, that's my own opinion though).
I won't be saying any more than has been officially released. Just clearing things up here. I can't be bothered to correct Fishie over there though, as I'm not a member of that board and I don't have time to make an account just for that. Who'd believe a member with just one post anyway.
argh! I should learn to shut up!
blakjedi: don't quote me on this, because I'm not certain of everything. I've never worked on GRAW nor have I even played it (just seen videos). I also don't want to say much in fear of breaching my NDA. Just consider that GRAW uses a different engine, and that that series is generally geared towards open combat, where R6 is more geared towards close-combat. Naturally, any game that has more close-combat will be able to concentrate more details in the immidiate suroundings. I'd rather not get into more details. :S
mckmas8808: yeah, those are in-game, as stated on several sites. again I don't want to get into details. we're still a ways from release and art direction and minor details are always changing slightly.
Would you rather I start a new fricking thread?
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I take back what I said about RS:Vegas...
BIA and Gearbox have made UE3 a thing of non-generic beauty...
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Zuh? That looks like hell, and tell me again why we should care if we can see 'stubble'? Making things look good is one thing, but that's just a pointless damn waste of time and processor power.
Edit:
Deepblue
Corporate Shill
:lol:
:lol: Just noticed that.
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Hands up how many people have noticed the finely bumpmapped stubble on previous FPS/tactical shooter game characters' faces?
anyone?
NB: you know, deepblue, it's generally considered rather shilling-like to take a thread about one game (very odd game), and then suddenly insert what is effectively an advert for another, replete with a glory-shot. It's a bit like, if I started a thread about the Rangers game (vs Villareal), and then someone randomly posted a big (huge) picture of the Juventus match and started waffling on about it.
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While it's pretty Deepblue, why don't you just, you know. Stop.
Just stop.
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It would be less annoying if Deepblue would post all his advertisement in one thread, which I then could happily ignore.
But posting several threads in one week (as has happened before), or hijacking another thread with bullshots makes me cringe.
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Eh, fellas steady on.
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:wtf:
That last shot smells fishy.
Maybe post links to screenshots rather than the images DB, so as to avoid unwanted bashing?
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DB, almost no-one here is particularly interested in 360 games, developments, or screenshots showing the usual ultra-high-resolution-skin-textures-with-realistic-decal-bumpmapping-HDR-bloom plasticene men/women/cars/dinosaurs which you continue to feed us with. HLP is primarily a Freespace forum for most of us, and as such we're practically all PC users. So don't expect a warm reception for what most of us consider irrelevant. Especially in the face of so much of it.
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I wouldn't mind seeing some dinosaurs, actually.
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I wouldn't mind seeing some dinosaurs, actually.
I'd prefer the women...
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I suggest compromise, If DeepBlue wants to start a thread about his favourite 360 games, and post shots in there, why should anyone have a problem with that. If you don't like the 360, or aren't interested, simply don't look. That way, DB can discuss 360 games with people who are also interested in them without getting moaned at, and everyone else will not have 360 screenshots leaping out on them at unexpected moments?
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Idiots. These aren't "360" games. All of the ones I have posted in this thread are for PC, PS3, Xbox 360, and current gen.
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Either way, if people are going to complain about console game pictures being posted in threads like this, surely a compromise is better than a shouting match?
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I'd prefer the women...
I second that. If there ever happens to be another DoA Extreme Beach Volleyball please feel free to contribute screenshots to any thread.
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Actually, that brings me to a random thought: Is it just me, or has the current eyecandy crazy showed a distinct lack of the traditional female eyecandy?
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Actually, that brings me to a random thought: Is it just me, or has the current eyecandy crazy showed a distinct lack of the traditional female eyecandy?
Uncanny valley effect; there's not much point.
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Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball for the 360 anyone? :p
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See Deepblue, THIS would be an excellent time to post shots...
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Do a search for Rumble Roses XX. I don't plan on seeing any media because digital isn't for me, but forum threads suggest that it's what you are looking for.
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New trailer... (first "E" rated R* game?)
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/815/815145/vids_1.html
Looks very good, but definitely teetering into the uncanny valley (except the chinese guy, he looks good).
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2725/asianavatarguy1vp.gif)
"Seriously!"
:lol:
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And you necro'ed this thread because of why.....?
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And you necro'ed this thread because of why.....?
What are you, new around here? :p
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And you necro'ed this thread because of why.....?
Every time new xbox 360 media is published Deepblue just has to run over and show us how good it is and why we should all buy Microsoft equipment and products. Oh, and every time competitor stories are out he needs to highlight how bad they are, y'know, just to be fair (no wait, the other one).
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Shut the bloody hell up. If you don't contribute don't bother posting. And I would point out that I haven't posted that the PS3 will retail for 500 to 600 euros, so I guess that makes the "every time competitor stories are out he needs to highlight how bad they are, y'know, just to be fair" sound idiotic doesn't it? I didn't even start this thread. Guess who did? Furthermore, I believe you were complaining about creating new threads when old threads already covered the same topic? Bloody hypocrite.
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Shut the bloody hell up. If you don't contribute don't bother posting. And I would point out that I haven't posted that the PS3 will retail for 500 to 600 euros, so I guess that makes the "every time competitor stories are out he needs to highlight how bad they are, y'know, just to be fair" sound idiotic doesn't it? I didn't even start this thread. Guess who did? Furthermore, I believe you were complaining about creating new threads when old threads already covered the same topic? Bloody hypocrite.
Oooh.... touched a nerve, have I?
Presumably you'd also like to add that the PS3 story wasn't a particularly major one as a) Sony denied that'd be the price anyways and b) it'd be markedly cheaper than a Blu-Ray DVD player and hence not exactly negative for them either.
anyways, let's look at what comes up on your 'last posts' page;
3 posts defending MS with respect to the download costs for Oblivion content on Live;
1 post moaning about Halos' rating
1 post linking PGR3 videos followed by one saying you'll wait for Forza 2
1 describing how you dream about Halo
1 hailing Halos music as 'genius'
1 with a huge screenshot of Halo
1 'pulling out a flamethrower' on someone who said Pc games were best on Stealths 360 thread.
In fact, of the last 25 posts i see about 15 are either mentioning MS games (namely Halo) or within 360 related threads. Crikey.
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"Presumably you'd also like to add that the PS3 story wasn't a particularly major one as a) Sony denied that'd be the price anyways and b) it'd be markedly cheaper than a Blu-Ray DVD player and hence not exactly negative for them either."
Ohhh, touched a nerve have I?
Of course Sony is going to deny the price, just like they denied that any of the stuff shown at E305 was CGi (which it was), and despite the fact that it came straight from the mouth of Sony's VP in France. And markedly cheaper than a Blu-Ray player anyway is still too expensive for something that's quickly becoming not a game console but a primer for Blu-Ray despite the fact that A. The one in the PS3 will be incredibly low-quality to keep costs down, so anyone serious about HD content will get a stand-alone player, and B. HD penetration in the US is 7%. While games can look better and better even on SDTV still, DVD is still perfectly fine for the vast majority of consumers.
3 posts defending MS with respect to the download costs for Oblivion content on Live;\\
Is it wrong to do so when people like you make incredibly moronic assumptions?
1 post moaning about Halos' rating
Do you disagree? Please explain why the rating is correct.
1 post linking PGR3 videos followed by one saying you'll wait for Forza 2
After you moaned about me posting PGR3 stuff I deleted it all. Never happy are we?
1 describing how you dream about Halo
Generalizations are unhealthy. I specifically stated that I dream about what I have recently played and/or watched.
1 hailing Halos music as 'genius'
It is, along with most of Marty O'Donells work.
1 with a huge screenshot of Halo
Following a comment by Turnsky suggesting that next year's april fools would involve "wort wort worts." An expression by elites IN Halo, hence the screenshot of a ship full of elites.
1 'pulling out a flamethrower' on someone who said Pc games were best on Stealths 360 thread.
Because it was an incredibly stupid thing to say. There are great games both on the PC and on consoles. Do you disagree?
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Again with the personal attacks, might you please do me the favor of leaving if you don't contribute?
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[q]Of course Sony is going to deny the price, just like they denied that any of the stuff shown at E305 was CGi (which it was), and despite the fact that it came straight from the mouth of Sony's VP in France. And markedly cheaper than a Blu-Ray player anyway is still too expensive for something that's quickly becoming not a game console but a primer for Blu-Ray despite the fact that A. The one in the PS3 will be incredibly low-quality to keep costs down, so anyone serious about HD content will get a stand-alone player, and B. HD penetration in the US is 7%. While games can look better and better even on SDTV still, DVD is still perfectly fine for the vast majority of consumers.[/q]
Ah, back onto the competitor attacks I see. roll on!
EDIT; If I'm a moron....tell me, what do you do for a living?
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Considering that you brought it up, and considering that you continue to attack me i find such a statement completely and utterly ironic.
Please don't make a complete @rse of yourself anymore.
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The only one making an ass out of themselves in this thread is you Shill. Your title should be bolded to red so it's a good warning to everyone.
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Considering that you brought it up, and considering that you continue to attack me i find such a statement completely and utterly ironic.
Please don't make a complete @rse of yourself anymore.
I don't believe anyone can declare the other person is making an arse of themselves without appearing a) shifty and B) avoiding the point.
Why me in italics? Are you immune from criticism with your whacky advert posting ways?
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Why are you attacking me for posting in YOUR thread on YOUR topic?
Are you some sort of masochist?
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Nice try to divert the topic. I think that would have worked on me if I was five years old.
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I apologize, I shouldn't have overestimated your age.
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And I would point out that I haven't posted that the PS3 will retail for 500 to 600 euros, so I guess that makes the "every time competitor stories are out he needs to highlight how bad they are, y'know, just to be fair" sound idiotic doesn't it?
Er...so...what did you just say then? Bunnies are fluffy?
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Bunnies are wonderfully cute.
(http://www.shutterfreaks.com/albums/album297/Bunny.jpg)
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...tell me, what do you do for a living?
I still want this one answered.
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Why are you attacking me for posting in YOUR thread on YOUR topic?
Are you some sort of masochist?
Lemme think.
It's an old, semi humourous topic that was really just an excuse for sex, violence and ping-pong related jokes. Glancing back on p1 & 2, your main contribution was to post 2 replies with huge and off-topic screenshots of entirely different games, which everyone ignored or got annoyed with (I believe you called them idiots for that - deja vu!). now, a month later you resurrect it in order to show video footage and post an incredibly annoying 'attention grabber' gif (not dissimilar to the tactic of posting huge and seemingly random screenshots in any vaguely game related thread - see page 1 & 2 of here). Sorry, not a video - a trailer. An advert.
Now, i genuinely don't know if you're paid or just incredibly enthusiastic, but it gets on my tits royally when someone is so blatantly biased and trying to push a product into others faces, so of course I'm going to get annoyed with this sort of japery.
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You complain about off-topic and on-topic contributions...
brilliant!
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You complain about off-topic and on-topic contributions...
brilliant!
sorry, what did you say your job was again?
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You complain about off-topic and on-topic contributions...
brilliant!
Hey, hush you. Aldo has contributed more to this community with his pinky finger than you have in all of your pathetic existance. :p
He's allowed to post random stuff when he pleases, in part because he's more respected around here but more specifically because he knows when it is and is not appropriate to post OT things.
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Why, and what's yours?
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Careful DB, aldo will actually tell you. You're backing yourself into a corner.
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I apologize, I shouldn't have overestimated your age.
Wow, so desperate for an insult you even make one that doesn't make sense.
Awesome.
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If that doesn't make sense you are in desperate need of (more?) schooling.
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Careful DB, aldo will actually tell you. You're backing yourself into a corner.
Well, now you ask.... I'm a Software Engineer (lowest level, i.e. Graduate - started about 3 weeks ago) for Cisco, at Cumbernauld (see the Glasgow (http://www.cisco.com/global/UK/contacts/contacts_home.shtml) entry) in NTMG.
Before that I was a part time developer for Rightsrouter/Flowphonics, a music aggregator (I wrote XML packaging software to send music to iTunes, Rhapsody, Sony, etc) and before that I was a self employed consultant to Engimatec Ltd doing some patent work which I can't really describe in detail.
Oh, and before that I was at uni.
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"I wrote XML packaging software to send music to iTunes, Rhapsody, Sony, etc"
Teh bias!
Now, see how idiotic that conclution was?
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"I wrote XML packaging software to send music to iTunes, Rhapsody, Sony, etc"
Teh bias!
Now, see how idiotic that conclution was?
WTF are you on about, won't-say-job boy?
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I think he believes you worked for Apple, Sony et al. since you apparently had to interface with the back end of their software. Stupid assumption, sure, but at least it makes some sense if you look at it through DB-shaped glasses.
Of course even if you did, we'd need some form of proof of shown bias for the claim to have any merit, and somehow I think he'd have a hard time finding that too.
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Does it matter? And if it really does, why?
And FYI, I'm a power conservation consultant for local schools (geothermal heating (through glycol state-change), active/passive solar, etc.).
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I think he believes you worked for Apple, Sony et al. since you apparently had to interface with the back end of their software. Stupid assumption, sure, but at least it makes some sense if you look at it through DB-shaped glasses.
Of course even if you did, we'd need some form of proof of shown bias for the claim to have any merit, and somehow I think he'd have a hard time finding that too.
What?
No. The point is that it IS a stupid claim of bias.
And would I have a hard time? In almost every thread that relates to consoles Aldo has shown clear distrust for Microsoft. Now, could I not use that as a claim for bias if my personal distrust of Sony makes me a corporate shill?
It's an illogical argument either way.
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If that doesn't make sense you are in desperate need of (more?) schooling.
Actually you don't seem to have sufficient schooling if you think that made sense. Having a sentence make a clear point doesn't mean it makes sense within a context.
Didn't they teach you that at Shills-R-Us school?
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You made the assertion that such a joke would only work on a 5-year old. I made the assertion that you were under the age of 5, and as such, the joke did not work. Logic is good mmmkay?
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You complain about off-topic and on-topic contributions...
brilliant!
Hey, hush you. Aldo has contributed more to this community with his pinky finger than you have in all of your pathetic existance. :p
He's allowed to post random stuff when he pleases, in part because he's more respected around here but more specifically because he knows when it is and is not appropriate to post OT things.
I've been on this board longer than both of you.
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I think he believes you worked for Apple, Sony et al. since you apparently had to interface with the back end of their software. Stupid assumption, sure, but at least it makes some sense if you look at it through DB-shaped glasses.
Of course even if you did, we'd need some form of proof of shown bias for the claim to have any merit, and somehow I think he'd have a hard time finding that too.
If you ask - and even though you didn't - both Sony and Apples' setups are a bit of a state. Sonys' XML was a horribly huge and unweildy mess (50+ pages for the spec!), and Apples reporting was a shocking shambles (no XML spec for their video store, no reporting the results of their internal validation of what we uploaded, and no confirmation when something went live on iTunes - XML was quite nice & clean, though). But for any of that to be valid, I'd have to have praised either companies music service to the high heavens.
Does it matter? And if it really does, why?
And FYI, I'm a power conservation consultant for local schools (geothermal heating (through glycol state-change), active/passive solar, etc.).
It let's me assess whether or not there is some motive in this seemingly rampant and inexplicable crusade of advertising, and why you get so het up, complain, and then repeat the feat a few days later. And also because I remember you talking of access to the MS internal store, vis-a-vis 360 peripheral licensing fees and the resultant prices.
But thank you, I was curious. Sounds an interesting job.
What?
No. The point is that it IS a stupid claim of bias.
And would I have a hard time? In almost every thread that relates to consoles Aldo has shown clear distrust for Microsoft. Now, could I not use that as a claim for bias if my personal distrust of Sony makes me a corporate shill?
It's an illogical argument either way.
I have a nasty habit, actually. Every time someone presents an obviously biased viewpoint, I tend to place myself in a diametrically opposed position to counter it as best I can. Now, it is true i don't like MS; I think they're a monopolistic company built on shoddy business practices that damages the software industry. And I do dislike the sort of 'xtreme' americanised brand they've brought to gaming, and their general arrogance in a lot of the public statements they made. That's a fair point, although equally surely it's not bias if I've looked at them and decided they're a bit ****? It's just a conclusion. And the distrust conclusion is fair well grounded in historical evidence.
However, I've never just 'attacked' MS, nor have I ever just praised a competitor against them. I've always tried to present an objective viewpoint, with caveats. If you're interested, just last night I was talking to my (older-27) brother about the 360/PS3, and trying to explain to him why I was interested in neither (weirdly, my brother wants a Revolution yet failed to understand why I don't care about better graphics).
Y'see, if I was truly biased, I'd be the one posting big screenshots off-topic in threads and saying 'look how **** hot this is'. but I don't. You do.
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You made the assertion that such a joke would only work on a 5-year old. I made the assertion that you were under the age of 5, and as such, the joke did not work. Logic is good mmmkay?
Congratulations on using the logic that I am less than five years old. Now I must've joined this forum while I was still in the womb.
Also, Aristotel, I didn't make an assertion such a joke would only work on a five year old. I made an assertion that your mental age is equal to that of a five year old. The former was just a placeholder for those who can read between the lines.
I guess they don't teach you how to use logic at that school you went to. Too many screenshots dull the mind eh?
Don't worry though. Just post some more X360 screenshots. It'll all be better then. The headache of trying to think two steps forward will go away, and you also get your paycheck from Microsoft.
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I think he believes you worked for Apple, Sony et al. since you apparently had to interface with the back end of their software. Stupid assumption, sure, but at least it makes some sense if you look at it through DB-shaped glasses.
Of course even if you did, we'd need some form of proof of shown bias for the claim to have any merit, and somehow I think he'd have a hard time finding that too.
If you ask - and even though you didn't - both Sony and Apples' setups are a bit of a state. Sonys' XML was a horribly huge and unweildy mess (50+ pages for the spec!), and Apples reporting was a shocking shambles (no XML spec for their video store, no reporting the results of their internal validation of what we uploaded, and no confirmation when something went live on iTunes - XML was quite nice & clean, though). But for any of that to be valid, I'd have to have praised either companies music service to the high heavens.
Does it matter? And if it really does, why?
And FYI, I'm a power conservation consultant for local schools (geothermal heating (through glycol state-change), active/passive solar, etc.).
It let's me assess whether or not there is some motive in this seemingly rampant and inexplicable crusade of advertising, and why you get so het up, complain, and then repeat the feat a few days later. And also because I remember you talking of access to the MS internal store, vis-a-vis 360 peripheral licensing fees and the resultant prices.
But thank you, I was curious. Sounds an interesting job.
I have a family member with access through a business partnership.
What?
No. The point is that it IS a stupid claim of bias.
And would I have a hard time? In almost every thread that relates to consoles Aldo has shown clear distrust for Microsoft. Now, could I not use that as a claim for bias if my personal distrust of Sony makes me a corporate shill?
It's an illogical argument either way.
I have a nasty habit, actually. Every time someone presents an obviously biased viewpoint, I tend to place myself in a diametrically opposed position to counter it as best I can. Now, it is true i don't like MS; I think they're a monopolistic company built on shoddy business practices that damages the software industry. And I do dislike the sort of 'xtreme' americanised brand they've brought to gaming, and their general arrogance in a lot of the public statements they made. That's a fair point, although equally surely it's not bias if I've looked at them and decided they're a bit ****? It's just a conclusion. And the distrust conclusion is fair well grounded in historical evidence.
However, I've never just 'attacked' MS, nor have I ever just praised a competitor against them. I've always tried to present an objective viewpoint, with caveats. If you're interested, just last night I was talking to my (older-27) brother about the 360/PS3, and trying to explain to him why I was interested in neither (weirdly, my brother wants a Revolution yet failed to understand why I don't care about better graphics).
Y'see, if I was truly biased, I'd be the one posting big screenshots off-topic in threads and saying 'look how **** hot this is'. but I don't. You do.
In that case I'll agree to disagree and go about on my way. Just don't ever come into the thread you created to bash me for posting stuff that was pertinent to the subject.
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You made the assertion that such a joke would only work on a 5-year old. I made the assertion that you were under the age of 5, and as such, the joke did not work. Logic is good mmmkay?
Congratulations on using the logic that I am less than five years old. Now I must've joined this forum while I was still in the womb.
Also, Aristotel, I didn't make an assertion such a joke would only work on a five year old. I made an assertion that your mental age is equal to that of a five year old. The former was just a placeholder for those who can read between the lines.
I guess they don't teach you how to use logic at that school you went to. Too many screenshots dull the mind eh?
Don't worry though. Just post some more X360 screenshots. It'll all be better then. The headache of trying to think two steps forward will go away, and you also get your paycheck from Microsoft.
It's Aristotle, not Aristotel.
Ironic isn't it?
" 'sell and buy PS3' :yes:"
In Stealth's thread,
from a previous tidbit...
"And another thing - what the hell is the problem here with ME not liking the advertising that he's doing over and over again even though everyone here wants to vomit when they see it?
What, I can't express disgust?"
You, sir, are disgusting.
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I also had a big long reply worked up, but I'm glad I refreshed the page because Aldo really hit everything I was going to say and, props to him, did it in a less aggressive fashion. That's one of the reasons (among many) that I respect aldo as much as I do. The one thing that I will add though is that just about everyone who's directly involved with any high-tech operation and who doesn't work directly for Microsoft tends to be a little skeptical of them, because they are the 800-pound guerilla who throws their weight around to the detriment of other, perhaps more innovative, companies.
In that case I'll agree to disagree and go about on my way. Just don't ever come into the thread you created to bash me for posting stuff that was pertinent to the subject.
If it's relevant, we won't. The bridge goes both ways though, so you need to make sure that someone who isn't in love with Microsoft would find the post pertinent.
EDIT: The month-bump for a trailer screenshot, when the thread itself derailed really quickly in the first place, wasn't pertinent.
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So Aldo bashing me after posting relevent information never happened did it?
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The edit probably won't be noticed by the person it was meant for, so I'll add that bumping this thread didn't make a lot of sense, as about 3/4 of it (prior to the bump) was this same deepblue/microsoft vs. other debate in a slightly different form. It's worth noting that this may have been the thread that earned you the "Corporate Shill" title in the first place, since IIRC the age is about right.
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Wow, how did this grow by a whole page in the space of two hours?
We need more threads like this. They provide some much-needed entertainment around here. :D
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You made the assertion that such a joke would only work on a 5-year old. I made the assertion that you were under the age of 5, and as such, the joke did not work. Logic is good mmmkay?
Congratulations on using the logic that I am less than five years old. Now I must've joined this forum while I was still in the womb.
Also, Aristotel, I didn't make an assertion such a joke would only work on a five year old. I made an assertion that your mental age is equal to that of a five year old. The former was just a placeholder for those who can read between the lines.
I guess they don't teach you how to use logic at that school you went to. Too many screenshots dull the mind eh?
Don't worry though. Just post some more X360 screenshots. It'll all be better then. The headache of trying to think two steps forward will go away, and you also get your paycheck from Microsoft.
It's Aristotle, not Aristotel.
Ironic isn't it?
" 'sell and buy PS3' :yes:"
In Stealth's thread,
from a previous tidbit...
"And another thing - what the hell is the problem here with ME not liking the advertising that he's doing over and over again even though everyone here wants to vomit when they see it?
What, I can't express disgust?"
You, sir, are disgusting.
Again, nice try to swerve from the topic of your mental inadequacies, but I'm not five. You need to try and raise your mental level. If not, all you're good for is the screenshots.
Oh and nice catch on the Aristotle typo. However, hardly ironic considering you have severe issues with understanding context and logic, while my biggest concern seems to be hitting a button somewhat slower before I hit another one.
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I think your biggest problem is an inability to remember what you have already posted...
Again:
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Ironic isn't it?
" 'sell and buy PS3' "
In Stealth's thread,
from a previous tidbit...
"And another thing - what the hell is the problem here with ME not liking the advertising that he's doing over and over again even though everyone here wants to vomit when they see it?
What, I can't express disgust?"
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If I didn't know you were a shill, I swear I'd mistake you for a parrot.
Unable to answer me directly and coherently? What a sad turn of events this must be for you. Truly shameful.
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Answer what?
"Again, nice try to swerve from the topic of your mental inadequacies, but I'm not five. You need to try and raise your mental level. If not, all you're good for is the screenshots.
Oh and nice catch on the Aristotle typo. However, hardly ironic considering you have severe issues with understanding context and logic, while my biggest concern seems to be hitting a button somewhat slower before I hit another one."
Again you demonstrate your inability to comprehend what you yourself post.
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First, use the quote feature. It works nicely even if you've started typing, and it helps clear up what's being said and what's being quoted. I know you know how to use it, and this really is one of those times that it's appropriate. Of course the text quoted and your response don't really seem to go together properly and I for one am not tracing this argument back through the thread to see what on earth you two are bickering about, but that's really only tangentally related.
Second, lets not let this degenerate into an all-out flamewar, shall we? I know both of you (DB and BlackDove) are on the watch list for exactly this sort of thing.
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I, frankly, don't know what the hell BlackDove is on about.
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I, frankly, don't know what the hell BlackDove is on about.
Well I think I do, it's the specifics of how it got started/how exactly the two of you have misinterpreted each other repeatedly that I'm not messing with. But don't for a second think that you're not implicated in the exchange just as much as BlackDove is.
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So Aldo bashing me after posting relevent information never happened did it?
Technically, i posted an honest opinion of your posting behaviour, which a quick glance at your history (for the last 8 pages or so) bore out to be rather correct )the 15-out-of-25 ratio being pretty much bore out). In fact, I'd advise everyone else to try it and make up their own minds.
To go back to the 'topic' of this thread (which I guess, starting it would mean I had a good idea of), let's examine some of the posts on the first page.
http://eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63138
Table tennis.
No, really.
honestly.
Table. Tennis.
Er.
Yes.
Tennis. On a Table. With ickle pads. and, er, convicning real-time(maybe?) sweat.
Crikey.
Ah... but you have to look out for the hidden game where you glue razor blades to the edge of your paddle and really go for it ;)
Ah... but you have to look out for the hidden game where you glue razor blades to the edge of your paddle and really go for it ;)
Or where the female tennis player uses her special launching powers to fire out the ball from her...... *cough*.
Uhm.... who would want to play this ?
Table tennis isn't exactly an exotic sport that only few people can afford.
Somehow this smells like an early April 1st joke.
I suspect they're taking the piss as well, given the likes of "true possibilities of a next gen experience" and " resulting in a purer, more visceral experience". (visceral, eh?).
There will probably be some sort of hidden game mode were you can beat the opposing player to death with the paddle. :p
(visceral, eh?).
I foresee a Winona-Ryder-mod....
This is the scene right before the player enters the room with a few friends and gang rapes both players.
And your (to be fair, second after a 'this is weird' entry that was mostly ignored)
Actually, ping pong is pretty damn fast and fun, unlike pong. If they can get this to work with MS's eyetoy clone/new motion detection tech it could be pretty awesome...
But still, WTH.
In other news... Rainbow Six: Vegas just was announced for PC , current-gen, and next-gen consoles, and my gosh, it looks hot (in-game as confirmed by dev on B3D). Still some polishing to be done till its release at the end of the year(door handle), but wow.
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Diminishing returns am dead.
Who knows about on topic again?
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BlackDove's contributions to the thread...
The only one making an ass out of themselves in this thread is you Shill. Your title should be bolded to red so it's a good warning to everyone.
Nice try to divert the topic. I think that would have worked on me if I was five years old.
Response:
I apologize, I shouldn't have overestimated your age.
(this was my mistake)
Wow, so desperate for an insult you even make one that doesn't make sense.
Awesome.
Response:
If that doesn't make sense you are in desperate need of (more?) schooling.
(this was another mistake)
Actually you don't seem to have sufficient schooling if you think that made sense. Having a sentence make a clear point doesn't mean it makes sense within a context.
Didn't they teach you that at Shills-R-Us school?
Response:
You made the assertion that such a joke would only work on a 5-year old. I made the assertion that you were under the age of 5, and as such, the joke did not work. Logic is good mmmkay?
Congratulations on using the logic that I am less than five years old. Now I must've joined this forum while I was still in the womb.
Also, Aristotel, I didn't make an assertion such a joke would only work on a five year old. I made an assertion that your mental age is equal to that of a five year old. The former was just a placeholder for those who can read between the lines.
I guess they don't teach you how to use logic at that school you went to. Too many screenshots dull the mind eh?
Don't worry though. Just post some more X360 screenshots. It'll all be better then. The headache of trying to think two steps forward will go away, and you also get your paycheck from Microsoft.
Response:
It's Aristotle, not Aristotel.
Ironic isn't it?
" 'sell and buy PS3' "
In Stealth's thread,
from a previous tidbit...
"And another thing - what the hell is the problem here with ME not liking the advertising that he's doing over and over again even though everyone here wants to vomit when they see it?
What, I can't express disgust?"
You, sir, are disgusting.
Again, nice try to swerve from the topic of your mental inadequacies, but I'm not five. You need to try and raise your mental level. If not, all you're good for is the screenshots.
Oh and nice catch on the Aristotle typo. However, hardly ironic considering you have severe issues with understanding context and logic, while my biggest concern seems to be hitting a button somewhat slower before I hit another one.
Response:
I think your biggest problem is an inability to remember what you have already posted...
Again:
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Ironic isn't it?
" 'sell and buy PS3' "
In Stealth's thread,
from a previous tidbit...
"And another thing - what the hell is the problem here with ME not liking the advertising that he's doing over and over again even though everyone here wants to vomit when they see it?
What, I can't express disgust?"
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If I didn't know you were a shill, I swear I'd mistake you for a parrot.
Unable to answer me directly and coherently? What a sad turn of events this must be for you. Truly shameful.
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I'm an idiot for even responding.
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In short, yes. You've been through it already and should know better. You and BlackDove have a mutual bait-troll relationship going that's pretty horrid, truth be told, and you should know not to rise to the occasion.
Though I'll admit, the bringing in of crap from other threads in an out of context way is very poor form too, and should be avoided in the future regardless of who you're responding to. There are exceptions, of course, but it's usually only appropriate if you make an effort to put it in context and properly quote it so that we get a link to the thread in question. The only other person I've seen make that sort of post on these boards before - quotes followed by a non-statement - was Derek Smart, if you remember that little incedent with any clarity.
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I'm an idiot for even responding.
Yes, but that's not all you're an idiot for.
DeepBlue's contributions to the thread:
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I think that should be a bannable offense after continuously derailing one topic after another. My "insults" if you can even call them that (really...) are quite simply the product of your prepetual advertising.
I'm sure some might disagree that you should be banned for advertising in almost every single game thread, but I don't disagree, so I deal with it in my own way.
If people want to ban me, that's fine, but I don't really intend to sit and watch idly by as you try to advertise me your ****ty console and its ****ty games in a place where I don't want ****ty advertisment in the ****ty way that you go about doing it.
My behaviour may very well be a bannable offense, but what you're doing, is in my opinion a bannable offense as well, and considering you're the one always instigating it with your advertisments, I think the big picture should be clear enough on which one of us should depart from here (if not both).
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Some people never learn.
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Arent we glad we're all better people?
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Some people never learn.
Ooooooo. Burn.
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Arent we glad we're all better people?
Shh... Just enjoy the show...
*brings out popcorn and hands some to Scuddie*
Heading back to the topic...
http://www.rockstargames.com/tabletennis/
:shaking:
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Okay, I think this needs to stop.