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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Grey Wolf on September 19, 2001, 03:47:00 pm
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No offense, but I, personally, have seen enough of that stretched out model.
If anything it needs at all, is a new texture that actually goes with its "Streched" figure. StarFleet ships usually have a "round" command center, this one is an oval... No startrek ships have an oval saucer in StarTrek, the closest thing that comes to it is a Sovereign, and thats not completely oval, at least not as oval as your ship.
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why dont you try making an Akira/Steamrunner/Soverign cross.. that could look cool if it's done right..
I would do it myself.. but.. well.. I cant.. gotta figure out how to use TS first...
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[This message has been edited by Thorn (edited 09-19-2001).]
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yeah, and the phasers are the wrong color. They're a dark grey, not a bright red.
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Originally posted by MD-2389:
yeah, and the phasers are the wrong color. They're a dark grey, not a bright red.
what if he wants to do them red?
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw:
No offense, but I, personally, have seen enough of that stretched out model.
This is not the same model. If you actually took a good look, you'd realize that. No wierd spikes on top, three nacelles, phasers mounted on the back nacelles, it is not the same ship. It's actually closer to the refitted Galaxy.
Originally posted by Thorn:why dont you try making an Akira/Steamrunner/Soverign cross.. that could look cool if it's done right..
I would do it myself.. but.. well.. I cant.. gotta figure out how to use TS first...
Maybe I'll try that...
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You have to start thinking about who you are making this model for... You or the public.
The public don't want a model that just looks stretched, they want a completely new one or a copy of a Star Trek ship.
Why don't you try and make some kind of hybrid like on that station in ST-Voyager Elite Force?
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Originally posted by Pegasus V:
they want a completely new one
Thats a little tricky isn't it? almost every single ST ship is based around the same core principles of two nacelles, a saucer section and so on.
And what happens when they want to show somethings "in the future"? They...wait for it....stick another nacelle on! Woah! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Originally posted by Thunder:
almost every single ST ship is based around the same core principles of two nacelles, a saucer section and so on.
Which is why I don't like ST ships (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Which is why I don't like ST ships (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
In my case, you can add the crews wearing pyjamas (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Originally posted by Thunder:
almost every single ST ship is based around the same core principles of two nacelles, a saucer section and so on.
Originally posted by Setekh:
Which is why I don't like ST ships (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Actually if you think about it, they're not unlike us. In the ST universe (at least as far as the Federation is concerned) the only way they know how (or maybe the best way) to propel ships is with the nacelles (to make the warp bubble, blah, blah, blah).
It's the same with us, they only way we know how to make cars go is with four wheels (or planes with two wings, etc).
And maybe the saucer part is because that's how they figured out how to best store the people as well as making the ship streamlined so that it's easier to deflect all the interstellular junk around the ship.
Granted, just like how we'll have different variations on a mode of transportation (motorcycles, helicopters, etc), so does ST (the Defiant).
Joe.
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Granted, but this is a fictional universe, we're confined by out understanding of the universe, a concept artist for ST should be able to throw off that particular chain and go wild with his designs (withing keeping of the "human design" thing). I just think ST could do better...
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There's a lot of room with the whole '2x nacelle + primary hull' aesthetic. Sure, there's some butt-ugly ships out there (Vger, the E-D) but there's some hellaciously sweet ones as well. (Akira, Steamrunner)
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Originally posted by Thunder:
almost every single ST ship is based around the same core principles of two nacelles, a saucer section and so on.
What about the Steamrunner.. Defiant... Venture....
Personally I like the Klingon ships better...
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But the Steamrunnner, Defiant and Venture (not to mention the others - I'm not completely ignorant of the multitude of ships) are all a little to "samey" anyway. I'm not sure why but they just seem a little... lacking in concept. Although given their due there are some cool ships out there.
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Originally posted by Thunder:
But the Steamrunnner, Defiant and Venture (not to mention the others - I'm not completely ignorant of the multitude of ships) are all a little to "samey" anyway. I'm not sure why but they just seem a little... lacking in concept. Although given their due there are some cool ships out there.
But don't you think current day warships look a little samey? It's just the median that they've found versatile.
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the galaxy class ships saurcers are oval jsut the other way around
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In the original series, i just feel pity for the "guy in the red shirt" if you watch or watched the original ST series with wil Shatner (don't let his banal monologues suck you in like a black hole) you'll see what i mean.
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The RedShirts are just classics. A bit like Stormtroopers, except they can occasionally hit something and have a 100% death rate instead of the Stormtrooper's 85%.
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
If there is one thing I wished a Star Trek feature could be incorporated into FreeSpace, it would be speed. Every starship in Star Trek outruns a cruiser anytime! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
My Renault5 outruns a FS2 cruiser...
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even the fighters are abit sluggish - once you put the speed upto 200 its abit more fun
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Originally posted by Jabu:
The RedShirts are just classics. A bit like Stormtroopers, except they can occasionally hit something and have a 100% death rate instead of the Stormtrooper's 85%.
Stormtroopers are very accurate.....unless you're a main character or an Ewok.
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Originally posted by Jabu:
The RedShirts are just classics. A bit like Stormtroopers, except they can occasionally hit something and have a 100% death rate instead of the Stormtrooper's 85%.
Man... RedShirts are damn funny. Star Wreck uses them well... Lol. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Now with the new series, the red shirts never die.. its either gold or blue...
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Man... RedShirts are damn funny. Star Wreck uses them well... Lol. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Speaking of RedShirts.... anyone see Galaxy Quest? Poor Rodriguez(sp?)... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Originally posted by Thunder:
Granted, but this is a fictional universe, we're confined by out understanding of the universe, a concept artist for ST should be able to throw off that particular chain and go wild with his designs (withing keeping of the "human design" thing). I just think ST could do better...
How about this?
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/gtdwolf/raptor.jpg)
It's my Raptor-class escort vessel. It's a combination of Klingon and Federation designs. (To tell you all the truth, this ship had it's birth a half hour ago when I was trying to make a render w/ my really bad Defiant and Bird of Prey models and they loaded on top of one another in TS (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif))
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Originally posted by Jabu:
The RedShirts are just classics. A bit like Stormtroopers, except they can occasionally hit something and have a 100% death rate instead of the Stormtrooper's 85%.
Not true! There is one TOS ep where a redshirt survives! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Its the one where that shuttle crashes on that planet and is attacked by those giant gorilla creatures. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Originally posted by MD-2389:
Not true! There is one TOS ep where a redshirt survives! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Its the one where that shuttle crashes on that planet and is attacked by those giant gorilla creatures. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
No! That can't be! The ultimate constant in the universe (RedShirt=dead) isn't true!
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Originally posted by Pegasus V:
But don't you think current day warships look a little samey? It's just the median that they've found versatile.
Yeah... if you think about it like that. Starfleet is the Federation's military... and just like our military, they usually make all their ships look the same... just like they way they all like to wear uniforms... the military likes things looking the same.
And about it being a fictional universe... sure, it is, but it's the Star Trek universe and all things in that universe have to fit the definition of that fictional universe or else it wouldn't be "Star Trek".
Now, don't think I'm defending Star Trek per say... but when you create a fictional universe you have to set certain rules so that all other fictional works based in that universe will be understood as coming from the same fictional universe.
Joe.
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DAMMIT make soem Klingon ships instead atleast you dont womit when you see them and most of them actually looks good unlike the federation ones
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Originally posted by Bishop Gantry:
DAMMIT make soem Klingon ships instead atleast you dont womit when you see them and most of them actually looks good unlike the federation ones
Who asked for comments from the peanut gallery? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Actually, I think he just likes to critiscize my ships.
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Grey Wolf,
I would be interested in your Star trek ships. Where can they be downloaded?
The Admiral
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