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Title: Ph33r!
Post by: Carl on October 22, 2001, 10:06:00 pm
  (http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Oct-2001/Entrprs-phsrs.jpg)  
and yes, i made everything. the models, the background, the stars, the planet, the nebula...everything.

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Post by: Shrike on October 22, 2001, 10:10:00 pm
Weren't ToS phasers red?
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Post by: Stryke 9 on October 22, 2001, 10:11:00 pm
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Post by: Carl on October 22, 2001, 10:12:00 pm
sometimes they were red (planet killer episode), sometimes they were blue (zetarian cloud episode) sometimes whey were pulses(balance of terror)

but they were blue most of the time.
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Post by: Nephilim on October 22, 2001, 10:48:00 pm
Blue cooler than red  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Cool pic  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: jonskowitz on October 22, 2001, 11:03:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Carl:
sometimes they were red (planet killer episode), sometimes they were blue (zetarian cloud episode) sometimes whey were pulses(balance of terror)

but they were blue most of the time.

I think the white pulses were actually photon torpedoes.
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Post by: NeoHunter on October 22, 2001, 11:03:00 pm
I prefer the newer version of the Enterprise. More sleek.

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Post by: jonskowitz on October 22, 2001, 11:04:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
I prefer the newer version of the Enterprise. More sleek.


Well then, that's why it's a newer version now isn't it (and don't get me started on why the NX-01 looks sleeker than anything in ToS either... sore spot).
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Post by: Carl on October 22, 2001, 11:05:00 pm
waht newer version? if you're talking about Enterprise NX-01, that's not a newer version, it's a totally different ship. i personally don't even consider the new series canon it's so messed up.
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Post by: Carl on October 22, 2001, 11:06:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by jonskowitz:
and don't get me started on why the NX-01 looks sleeker than anything in ToS either... sore spot.

that's an understatement.
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Post by: NeoHunter on October 23, 2001, 12:35:00 am
What's wrong? I think the Enterprise E looks great.

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Post by: Shrike on October 23, 2001, 01:11:00 am
 
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What's wrong? I think the Enterprise E looks great.

He's not talking about the Sovereign-class Enterprise E,
 (http://www.stinsv.com/MOv/640ship/9ente1.jpg)  
he's talking about the NX-01 Enterprise.
 (http://www.stinsv.com/ENt/640ship/entnx02.jpg)  

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Post by: NeoHunter on October 23, 2001, 02:25:00 am
Oops!

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Post by: Setekh on October 23, 2001, 03:24:00 am
Wow, nice render  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Vertigo1 on October 23, 2001, 10:59:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Carl:
waht newer version? if you're talking about Enterprise NX-01, that's not a newer version, it's a totally different ship. i personally don't even consider the new series canon it's so messed up.

Damn straight.  Its a well known fact that both Berman and Braga hate TOS.

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Post by: Jabu on October 23, 2001, 11:30:00 am
Hehe. Apparently the Sovereign can take on the entire Imperial fleet and all B5 First Ones combined, according to some SpaceBattlers  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Nice render. Though the ships could use better textures, but I guess that's pretty much what the original Enterprise (aka constipated ostrich) looked like.
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Post by: Carl on October 23, 2001, 05:13:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Jabu:
Though the ships could use better textures, but I guess that's pretty much what the original Enterprise (aka constipated ostrich) looked like.

yeah, you know how the budget was back then  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Post by: Thorn on October 23, 2001, 05:20:00 pm
lol, what budget?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Post by: wEvil on October 23, 2001, 05:31:00 pm
in the 1960s and 70's star trek was aimed at a different audience.

If you saw the origional enterprise-style ship you would have a very hard time beleiving the series was real, peoples' tastes have changed pretty radically.

I havent seen "enterprise" at all yet..since the fastest download i can get from the uni systems is only 50k/sec..i cant be bothered to sit around.

So the series producers find themselves in between remaining faithful to the series, and catering for a different audience (i wont say more sophisticated because you arent, quite frankly)


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Post by: Night Hammer on October 23, 2001, 09:16:00 pm
OK im more of a Star Wars guy, but the Sovereign class(Enterprise E) would beat the hell outta most ships
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Post by: NeoHunter on October 23, 2001, 10:23:00 pm
 
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OK im more of a Star Wars guy, but the Sovereign class(Enterprise E) would beat the hell outta most ships

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Post by: Carl on October 23, 2001, 11:00:00 pm
Sovereign class ship can own an ISD anyday because it's got those quantum torpedoes!
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Post by: jonskowitz on October 24, 2001, 05:55:00 am
Actually, if you compare the engagement ranges of the weapons and the engine performance of the combatants, even an Oberth class would own a ISD any day of the week.

 
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Originally posted by wEvil:
in the 1960s and 70's star trek was aimed at a different audience.

If you saw the origional enterprise-style ship you would have a very hard time beleiving the series was real, peoples' tastes have changed pretty radically.


Oh baloney, they just didn't have any money or the sophisticated FX techniques back then and it's no more complicated than that.  

Thier major advantage they had was what the hell existed back then that could be compared to it?  "The Attacking Flying Saucers from Mars"?  or how about "Santa Claus vs. the Martians", we know what wonderous marvels of fiction those were (OK, ok, there was "The Day the Earth Stood Still", but SF of that calibre was definately a rarity back then.)

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Post by: DragonClaw on October 24, 2001, 06:02:00 am
Lets not turn this thing into another comparison between Sci-Fi universes.

Besides... Trek is completely unrealistic, ships pulling more Gs than ANY structure can handle, ships thats would cost a hell of a lot of cash to design and make... having resources that don't even exist on worlds, etc. And StarWars takes place a LONG LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR AWAY. So...

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Title: Ph33r!
Post by: Admiral Kirk on October 24, 2001, 08:47:00 am
Look at this would ya..........the man creates a beautiful model of something as Legendary as the Enterprise and he gets all the guff for it. Carl I would be extremely interested in those ships if you have them modded for FS2.

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Post by: Carl on October 24, 2001, 12:08:00 pm
i wish! the deflector dish by it's self has too many polys for FS! The whole model is just under 15,000 polygons. now, maybe I-War2...
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Post by: Admiral Kirk on October 24, 2001, 12:32:00 pm
I have that too!

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Post by: Shrike on October 24, 2001, 12:35:00 pm
Let's not get into any more Trek vs Wars arguments here, or I'll have to CAM all your toys.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)