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Title: GVT Isis
Post by: Mars on April 01, 2006, 10:29:11 pm
Is it just me, or wouldn't it be really hard for more than one Zod to fit into the Isis.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Polpolion on April 01, 2006, 10:42:46 pm
What the hell is a Zod?
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Mars on April 01, 2006, 10:50:47 pm
It means Vasudan. It used to be a typical expression when I was a lurker (for over a year and a half), but recently it has declined in usage.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: FireCrack on April 02, 2006, 12:51:51 am
Dunno, how long is the thing?
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: StratComm on April 02, 2006, 03:26:06 am
If you look closely, you can see the pilots IIRC.  At least you can see where the cockpit should be, and it's pretty huge relative to the ship itself.  How entire combat teams fit inside it is a bit of a mystery.

Edit: Oh wait, that's not the Isis, is it.  Still, it's a tiny craft.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: CP5670 on April 02, 2006, 04:05:24 am
I also always thought that the Isis is too small for what it's supposed to be. It's smaller than even the Horus.

You can put up a Ra next to an Isis in FRED2 to estimate about how many Vasudans would fit in an Isis. I can't see how it would be more than 6 or so at the most.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 02, 2006, 04:52:54 am
The size of it becomes obvious in that FS1 mission where you have to capture the traitor McCarthy, and an Elysium comes to dock with the Rasputin.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: DIO on April 02, 2006, 06:38:28 am
I found the size of all ships in FS to be too smal...
A Fenris cruiser is supposed to be 250m long, which as big as a WW2-era battleship(which is huge) but it looks so small.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: S-99 on April 02, 2006, 07:51:53 am
Maybe it's about the perspective you're given from your fighter.
The fighters are pretty big, i mean bigger than f-16's and stuff.
One thing i don't see is how an orion is supposed to hold 10000 people.
I mean, star trek's enterprise is more reasonable with having 1000 people.
If an orion had that many aboard it'd make more sense, especially for a hecate.
As far as a how big a fenris is actually supposed to be, just look at the size of the windows, the place where the dish is like the command center on it.
But, yeah, the fighters are pretty big, they're no where near compact at all.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: karajorma on April 02, 2006, 08:44:15 am
I don't see why it's so hard to believe. The US Nimitiz class carriers have a crew of around 5000 and they're 300+ metres long.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: FireCrack on April 02, 2006, 09:02:13 am
Also, an orion is 3 times longer than the federations bigest starhip, and has a crew of 3000.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Black Wolf on April 02, 2006, 10:42:43 am
Someone (Bobboau I beleive) once rendered 10 000 people next to an orion (to scale). They were miniscule in comparison.

Consider - you lay 10000 people (1.8 m approx) out, head to toe, they're 18km long. Divide that into 9 columns laying shoulder to shoulder (at best about 6m wide or so) and you could fit them into a single deck of an Orion, with masses of room to spare on that one deck alone (as the orion is considerably more than 6m wide.

Infact, with only 10000 people on board, vast amounts of the Orion would be completely deserted most of the time.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Mars on April 02, 2006, 10:43:28 am
I suppose the Isis is larger than, say, a station wagon, I don't think the Vasudans are to-scale in the GVEP Ra. 10,000 people could easily fit in an Orion, if every deck was three meters, the Orion would have over 100. The Ra is in the wiki: (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GVT_Isis)

Now that I think about it, the worst part about any destroyer is the fact that the escape pods only hold 20 people, in order to evacuate the entire crew, you'd need 500 of them, where a few GTM Hippocrates medical frigates would suffice
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Charismatic on April 02, 2006, 02:08:30 pm
I suppose the Isis is larger than, say, a station wagon, I don't think the Vasudans are to-scale in the GVEP Ra. 10,000 people could easily fit in an Orion, if every deck was three meters, the Orion would have over 100. The Ra is in the wiki: (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GVT_Isis)

Now that I think about it, the worst part about any destroyer is the fact that the escape pods only hold 20 people, in order to evacuate the entire crew, you'd need 500 of them, where a few GTM Hippocrates medical frigates would suffice
Where do it say they only hold 20 people?
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: StratComm on April 02, 2006, 02:18:20 pm
In the Hermes tech description.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: S-99 on April 02, 2006, 05:56:45 pm
I see, well that makes more sense:)
I forgot that carriers hold 5000, it's like a floating city.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Cobra on April 02, 2006, 07:29:50 pm
Yeah, satellite TV and satellite internet with cramped bathrooms and bunks instead of regular beds. :p
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: FireCrack on April 02, 2006, 07:57:14 pm
Bleh, wrong number.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Cobra on April 02, 2006, 08:01:12 pm
my opinion is that because of the limitations of the original FS engine didn't let them make ships like the Fenris bigger. i say it could be done now, there'd just have to be a massive texture overhaul. :nervous:
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Polpolion on April 02, 2006, 08:08:06 pm
I see, well that makes more sense:)
I forgot that carriers hold 5000, it's like a floating city.

speaking of an outer space city, it'd be cool to live in one. Pretty much all the comforts of a planet, with low gravity goodness!

300th post!
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Cobra on April 02, 2006, 08:09:40 pm
I see, well that makes more sense:)
I forgot that carriers hold 5000, it's like a floating city.

speaking of an outer space city, it'd be cool to live in one. Pretty much all the comforts of a planet, with low gravity goodness!

uh, he meant today's carriers. :p
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Polpolion on April 02, 2006, 08:44:56 pm
I see, well that makes more sense:)
I forgot that carriers hold 5000, it's like a floating city.

speaking of an outer space city, it'd be cool to live in one. Pretty much all the comforts of a planet, with low gravity goodness!

uh, he meant today's carriers. :p


oh.





well it would still be cool to live in outer space...
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Mars on April 02, 2006, 10:25:44 pm
Oh my poor, digressed topic  ;)
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: S-99 on April 02, 2006, 10:31:20 pm
Thesizzler needs to call 1-800-ARC-ADIA.
Hope you got enough money ;)
Subspace delivery of course :)
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: Mars on April 02, 2006, 10:33:11 pm
Hey operator, I need information...
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: S-99 on April 03, 2006, 12:42:41 am
You'll get service by the time humanity has upgraded the international space station so much until they come up with the first arcardia and commercializing it.
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: FireCrack on April 03, 2006, 04:01:42 am
I see, well that makes more sense:)
I forgot that carriers hold 5000, it's like a floating city.

speaking of an outer space city, it'd be cool to live in one. Pretty much all the comforts of a planet, with low gravity goodness!


Goodness, until your bones take on the consistency of stale bread....
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: S-99 on April 03, 2006, 05:08:03 am
Yeah, that'd just be great having muscle and bone atrophy.
That really makes me not want to go in space if no gravity of any kind.
Luckily you can spin your craft:D
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast02aug_1.htm
Title: Re: GVT Isis
Post by: FireCrack on April 03, 2006, 07:23:17 am
Unluckily, your craft needs to be 400m across to generate any notable gravity without inducing major nausia