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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: GodisanAtheist on April 03, 2006, 01:51:57 am
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Limited to games released as retail on PCs (or Macs...) only, and no, ports don't count (as console gamers tend to get tons of quality music with their games).
My vote goes to Myth 2: Soulblighter. Damn, Marty O'Donnel understands music.
Runner up is Homeworld.
Righto, have fun with the voting and all that!
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Decent 2
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Star Wars: Republic Commando :nervous:
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OutCast :nervous:
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Unreal, Deus Ex, FS1 and Lemmings (mac version), in no particular order.
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OutCast :nervous:
Outcast, Halo had a decent soundtrack, Command and Conquer's soundtrack was memorable, so was the soundtrack to "the longest journey"
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It begins and ends with Stronghold. If you disagree, you are wrong.
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Star Wars: Republic Commando
Comand & Conquer
C&C: Red Alert
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Homeworld
Eve
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Decent 2
seconded, with quake 2 as second place and starcraft being 3rd :D
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In no special order..
Homeworld
Descent 2
FreeSpace
Battlefield: Vietnam
Total Annihilation
Burnout 3
Need For Speed; Most Wanted
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I tried to put them in rough order at first, then realized I really couldn't. So in no particular order...
Homeworld
MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries
MechWarrior 2
EVE Online
Freelancer
Homeworld: Cataclysm
Halo
Mechwarrior 3: Pirate's Moon
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Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
Silent Hill 4
Beyond Good and Evil
Shadowgrounds
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Planescape: Torment
Sacrifice
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GalCiv 2
FreeSpace 2..
Homeworld & Homeworld: Cataclysm
Total Annihilation
Odd..i can't remember any more games that had great music in them..
[edit]dang..forgot Total Annihilation
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Homeworld
Rome: Total War
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Seems a lot of people really like Barber...
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Well, Samuel Barber wrote Adagio for Strings, the Karak is Burning theme from Homeworld is a choir version of it by Quire of Voyces, however, I actually prefer the Turanic raiders music and Homeworld 2 tracks by Paul Ruskay
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Pharaoh/ Children of the Nile (actually, i ported the pharaoh soundtrack to kingdom of the nile, so i have both when i play)
Homeworld (so emotional)
Homeworld 2 (funky eastern style goodness, and fun vaygr theme)
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Pharaoh/ Children of the Nile (actually, i ported the pharaoh soundtrack to kingdom of the nile, so i have both when i play)
Homeworld (so emotional)
Homeworld 2 (funky eastern style goodness, and fun vaygr theme)
Yeah Pharaoh had some awesome music in it, I still think Pharoah was a better game than Children of the Nile, they sacrificed too many options to have full 3D imho.
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Thief: The Dark Project (Eric Brosius=awesome)
The Longest Journey
Oblivion
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Well, Samuel Barber wrote Adagio for Strings, the Karak is Burning theme from Homeworld is a choir version of it by Quire of Voyces, however, I actually prefer the Turanic raiders music and Homeworld 2 tracks by Paul Ruskay
I don't mind the Homeworld 2 tracks either, but I don't think I'd ever put it over Homeworld 1's music. It just doesn't seem as natural. Some parts are really out of place in the game. Otherwise it is fairly nice music, just perhaps not utilized in game as well as the original did.
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FreeSpace
Halo
Monkey Island I (it was MIDI, but it's still awesome)
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Outlaws had some really nice Sergio-Leoneish tunes. Set the perfect mood for a western shooter.
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Limited to games released as retail on PCs (or Macs...) only, and no, ports don't count (as console gamers tend to get tons of quality music with their games).
My vote goes to Myth 2: Soulblighter. Damn, Marty O'Donnel understands music.
Runner up is Homeworld.
Righto, have fun with the voting and all that!
I would have said Halo until I read the qualifiers... But you got Marty O'Donnel anyway so I second this vote.
My runner up:
Total Annihilation.
EDIT:
http://www.bungie.net/images/news/inlineimages/unforgotten_snippet.mp3
For those that need convincing that Marty O'Donnel is a musical genius.
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Yup, O'Donnell is a damned good composer, I wish I could get the same depth to my orchestra stuff :(
http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/Mix1.mp3
That's about the closest I got to that sort of thing.
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King's Quest VI, Freespace 1 and 2, Myst and Riven, Master of Magic, The 7th Guest are the ones I can think of offhand.
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Currently I am listening to "Room of Angel" from Silent Hill 4. When I say "am listening to" I mean "an listening to a lot". It's a truly astonishing piece of music that really gets under your skin. It's a shame it's stuck on a game soundtrack. Here's hoping they use it in the Silent Hill movie somewhere so it gets more exposure.
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Master of Magic
The Rob Hubbard track?
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Yup, O'Donnell is a damned good composer, I wish I could get the same depth to my orchestra stuff :(
http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/Mix1.mp3
That's about the closest I got to that sort of thing.
I like it.
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Here's hoping they use it in the Silent Hill movie somewhere so it gets more exposure.
The Silent Hill movie is going to have a completely original score by Yamaoka in it, IIRC. And besides, considering how context sensitive Silent Hill's music tends to be I don't think it would work if they stuck a song that was designed for Silent Hill 4's story into the film.
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Monkey Island I (it was MIDI, but it's still awesome)
You should hear that on the Mac version. It sounds 10x better than the dos version, as does the sequel. That seems to be the general trend for all the really old games.
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Freespace 1 and 2 of course, that style of music really befits space warfare. Almost anything by Inon Zur (think the Baldur's Gate games, Klingon Academy, the latter two Prince of Persias), most of Jeremy Soule's stuff, although I never thought that well of Total Annihilation's soundtrack, or Morrowind's.
Best MIDI music has to go to TIE Fighter. I think it actually sounded better on an OPL2/3 sound card than on General MIDI, personally. All of the early LucasArts games really did have the best music, for that matter.
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TIE Fighter
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Well, Samuel Barber wrote Adagio for Strings, the Karak is Burning theme from Homeworld is a choir version of it by Quire of Voyces, however, I actually prefer the Turanic raiders music and Homeworld 2 tracks by Paul Ruskay
Kadeshi and Imperial Battletracks...and Garden of Kadesh/Garden View. Turanic Battletrack was good too, but not quite superb the way the others were.
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Monkey Island I (it was MIDI, but it's still awesome)
You should hear that on the Mac version. It sounds 10x better than the dos version, as does the sequel. That seems to be the general trend for all the really old games.
That's possible, never heard the Mac version, although it always depends on the soundcard/MIDI fonts used.
You can get the whole Monkey Island soundtrack in mp3 format at the SCUMM Bar (http://www.scummbar.com/resources/downloads/index.php?todo=MP3) btw.
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No order here:
Mechwarrior 4
Freespace: The Great War
Pharoah (i think the full name is Pharoah and Cleopatra, i'm not sure)
Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance
Star Wars: Republic Commando
Star Wars: Battlefront 1 & 2
Age of Empires 2
Homeworld 1 & 2
and, like, tons of others
[EDIT] and if i could i would put Ace Combat 5 as best console soundtrack. :nervous:
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FreeSpace 1/2
Unreal 2
UT 2004
Although I'm not sure if Doom 3 had much in the way of a soundtrack, but the main theme was damn cool!
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Freespace 1/2
Halo
Sacrifice
and it's not PC, but God Of War :).
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Master of Magic
The Rob Hubbard track?
I dunno who wrote it; I just liked it. Not as much as the others, but it had a certain charm. There were other ones I probably should have included over that, such as TIE Fighter.
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No particular order:
Homeworld
Homeworld: Cataclysm
Homeworld 2
Divine Divinity
SpellForce
Star Wars: Jedi Knight
Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance
anyone got a clue if and where to get the HW soundtracks?
EDIT: You may add Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War + Winter Assault
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Thing about the Star Wars games though is that you are comparing the work of John Williams with people who write game music, admittedly, Williams wasn't nearly as famous when he wrote the Star Wars themes, but he'd still got Lost in Space and, I think, a few series of Star Trek under his belt.
Edit : My bad on the Star Trek, however, he did music for Heidi, Goodbye Mr Chips, Jaws, Earthquake and the Poseidon Adventure as well as a host of other TV and Films before Star Wars
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...Command and Conquer's soundtrack...
Frank Klepacki - "Full Stop"... yeah, baby, yeah!!
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lets see,
Primal, wish i could get hold of the orchestra stuff, think its really good.
The silent hill series
Chaos Gate
Freespace 1 and 2
Dawn of War Winter Assault(i just think it fits the 40K uni better the tha Dawn of War)
the babylon project
the orchestra stuff in Black and White 2
and the 2 very best in my opinions and i play these with the volume on full are, World of Warcraft soundtrack and Total Annihilation, i never liked orchestra music until i played Total Annihilation
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Tie Fighter's music was actually something like 80% custom written and had nothing to do with John Williams. It just fits so well with the Star Wars theme that it sounds like it's John Williams ;) For most of the newer games I'd agree though, they too often just toss the whole SW score on the CD and play random tracks, though there are exceptions.
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you know, i didn't know that. i just thought it was John William's music spliced together like a picasso painting.
oh, and no one say you hate the Medal of Honor soundtracks. :D
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I didn't know that either, in that case, Kudos to whoever wrote that stuff, they really managed to catch the Imperial feel of John Williams' work :)
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Yeah, I'm replaying Tie Fighter right now and it has a lot of upbeat remixes of the good old Empire theme. I think it's to make you feel proud of fighting for the Empire rather than it just being a gimmick or something, "Oooh, look at me! I'm one of the bad guys!" That's what makes that game great; it makes the Imperials seem like the good guys (sort of). Staying on topic, Neverwinter Nights has some great music as well as the other stuff already mentioned.
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I like the soundtracks made by the following artists and in order:
Dan Wentz
Eric Brosius
Frank Keplacki
Bobby Prince
Favorite games's sountracks though, Freespace 1 and 2 still blow me away today. I keep the entire soundtrack of FS2 on my shuffle, and FS1 on my PPC. I liked the MIDI creations as well for Descent 2. The Redbook tracks were quite good as well, prefer the first version of Descent 2 though, the one that included "haunted" by Type O-Negative, over the Definitive Collection version.
As for Brosius, System Shock 2's soundtrack, hands down the best I've heard from him. The upbeat tekky parts get you in the mood, but the low, creepy tracks really enhance the freak-out factor of that game. As for his MIDI's, I'm tied up between SS1 and Terra Nova, but I tend to like SS1's tracks, because there are a few in Terra Nova that are downright annoying.
Keplacki for C&C:Tiberium Dawn had a kick-ass soundtrack, my favorite of the C&C series. Even in Tiberian Sun, he did a good job with the atmospheric tracks.
Who can forget Bobby Prince, who made the MUS tracks for Doom? Hey, for MIDI created way back then, it was pretty darn good, and whoever did the remixes for the Doom Remake, did a decent job as well. (Dj Redlight?)
Star Wars music.. gah, I am so sick of it all, wether it be John Williams or not, I can't stand it anymore. Any new game I play that's even related to Star Wars, instantly, if the music can be muted in-game or switched off, it's OFF. I've heard John Williams's stuff so much that I cant really enjoy the music done for other films he has composed for, like Saving Private Ryan, and such. It's almost TOO much the same from piece to piece. Slowly skittering off topic, Hans Zimmer does a better job in making music for films, being able to make different types of music and still sound fresh enough to not say "oh, another Zimmer track". Just in comparison to John Williams. I guess this all means that I'm not a big Star Wars fan. Eh?
Though it's probably technically considered a port, though it's build is different than the PS2's version, Final Fantasy 7's midis, still very very well done. My favorite RPG-style soundtrack by far though over any other RPG I've played.
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In no special order:
Simcity 3000
EVE-online
Freespace 2
Red Alert 1 and 2 - Some of Frank Klapecki's best works were in these games. he did well in the music for the other C&C Titles, but personal preference is for the tracks in these.
Halo 1 and 2
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Age of Empires (Both 1 and 2)
Guild Wars
NFS: Most Wanted
Battlezone 2
Rise of Nations
Freespace 1 & 2
Not in any order. If I had to pick one it would be Battlezone 2.
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No particular order:
Homeworld
Homeworld: Cataclysm
Homeworld 2
Divine Divinity
SpellForce
Star Wars: Jedi Knight
Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance
anyone got a clue if and where to get the HW soundtracks?
Google:
http://www.bysmitty.com/Soundtracks/Homeworld/Homeworld.htm
http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/585 (very good site....)
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Otherwise if you've got the games you can rip them straight out of there. :)
Might I add to my list, Ecco the Dolphin. That was one kick arse game in its time, with amazing music to boot. :D
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Ecco the Dolphin? please. sure, the music was good, but the gameplay went nowhere fast.
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Quite liked the DC version.
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In no order
FS
FS2
FF2(SNES) that had some awesome music, and the most awesome boss theme ever invented
Rainbow Six
Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear
Yoshi's Island
SSBM
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
Super Mario Bros 3
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Nice one weatherop, was wondering when a few SNES/NES titles would get a foot in the door.
The themes from Mario games, the absolutely wonderful music from Starwing on the SNES, almost every track in Super Mario Kart, a good chunk of music from Super Probotector and lest we not forget, Street Fighter 2.
The music from Soul Calibur was also fantastic.
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Descent 1 with its wonderful midi tracks :p
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Ooh, the CosmoTank intro track, on the GameBoy!!!
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Descent 1 with its wonderful midi tracks :p
I liked those a lot too. D2 and Vertigo had some very nice CD tracks, but I thought the midi tracks were not quite as good as the D1 ones (and there were way too few of them), except maybe the fourth one.
By the way, I was searching around for the Fate of Atlantis music and ran into this on the way:
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/computer/microsoft/windows/freespace-battle-m2.mid
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i'll be damned, that's a pretty god rendition of March.
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Nice one weatherop, was wondering when a few SNES/NES titles would get a foot in the door.
The themes from Mario games, the absolutely wonderful music from Starwing on the SNES, almost every track in Super Mario Kart, a good chunk of music from Super Probotector and lest we not forget, Street Fighter 2.
The music from Soul Calibur was also fantastic.
oh if we're talking SNES:
Mario Kart, Super Probotector, Starwing, Cybernator, Super Castlevania, Street Fighter 2, Super Aleste, Axley, F-Zero, Legend of Zelda, Super Bomberman (the original, not sequels). Probably think of some more in a bit too.
****in' love my snes
*pets his snes*
*goes on to ebay to shop for more snes games*
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Nice one weatherop, was wondering when a few SNES/NES titles would get a foot in the door.
Never, considering the thread title?
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The themes from Mario games, the absolutely wonderful music from Starwing on the SNES, almost every track in Super Mario Kart, a good chunk of music from Super Probotector and lest we not forget, Street Fighter 2.
Well, the thread was excluding consoles . But now that you mention it, the Starfox/wing music was very good, especially the track in the asteroid belt level (on the 'easy' route), had sort of an Star Wars-ish epic feel to it.
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tyrian
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Well since SNES games mysteriously count as PC games now I must mention that FF6 has some of the best video game music EVER. Good overworld theme, good boss fight music, good everything else music. Chrono Trigger and Super Metroid must be mentioned too.
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You people need to play OutCast :p
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ROFL that SMB and FF_ aren't considered PC games, and yet Halo 2 is :rolleyes:
Especially since I can play the former two on my comp, but not the latter.
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Halo was built on a PC codebase before being ported to the Xbox, so it doesn't really count as a port when it was released on the PC.
:p
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Nice one weatherop, was wondering when a few SNES/NES titles would get a foot in the door.
Never, considering the thread title?
Whoops. :p
And yeah, Roanoke, I forgot ALTTP, that had awesome music as well.
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Too be honest the music is something that I most easily disregard or fail to notice yet I know it hugely effects the atmosphere of a game. Ones that do stick in my mind are definately Myth and freespace (2 moreso than 1 in both cases). I haven't played Tie Fighter yet, it's in a pretty big queue of games sitting beside my computer, so I'm going to have to go with X-Wing Vs Tie Fighter. I know its the same old music but it never gets old for me and that the first star wars game I bought.
Homeworld was good (mainly remember Adagio, I'm a big fan of that, and the Yes written song at the end credits I liked as well) and so was Halo, one of its far better aspects, certainly more so than level design or voice acting or weapons or...
Anyone know of a site that hosts old console games music? Mario IS class. Been humming it fairly regularily ever since I saw the forward of the guy playing them all on a piano a couple years back. Memories!
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So its open to consoles now? :)
Besides halo there are few really good music examples I can think of for the xboxs. There is some good music, but few great music examples.
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i think HL2 had great music too
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American McGee's Alice... Diablo II Expansion... Shadow of the Colossus. Can't forget SimCity 3K and Donkey Kong Country.
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I know it's console, but...
Space Station Silicon Valley[/b][N64]! The greatest soundtrack ever to grace a video-game. Evar.
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Myth 2: Soulblighter
Every single piece of music fit with the game and just WORKED when they were played. I was hooked on bungie stuff ever since Myth 1 and 2.
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I like all of the Descent games' music, but if I had to choose one then I'd go with Descent 1 for it's utter creepiness and how well it added to the atmosphere of the game.
Both Freespace 1 and Freespace 2 had really great music. For FS2 I especially liked Endgame, Numbers, Joshua chapter 2, and whatever the briefing music for the mission "Slaying Ravana" was.
And I could go on and on for music from nintendo games, but I won't.
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Halo was built on a PC codebase before being ported to the Xbox, so it doesn't really count as a port when it was released on the PC.
:p
Of course you'd respond to that :p First, the way Halo runs on a top-of-the-line PC would surely indicate that it was not finalized on the PC platform, but rather ported back to it. It does count as a port. Secondly, please note that I said Halo 2, a game which, as far as I know, was designed exclusively to the XBox. Halo:CE is a PC game, at least in port, so does count, Halo 2 is a console exclusive, and so by the reasoning shown to that point in the thread, should have recieved the same response as Mario or Metroid.
That said, shortly after my last post in this thread, a girl who lives upstairs from me was passing by and her phone rang with the Mario Bros tune. I had to stop her to tell her how awesome it was, nerd that I am. So yeah, SNES classics FTW.
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Well since SNES games mysteriously count as PC games now I must mention that FF6 has some of the best video game music EVER. Good overworld theme, good boss fight music, good everything else music. Chrono Trigger and Super Metroid must be mentioned too.
Ya'll can beam me for that one, mentioning FF7.. But since you mentioned it...
Cefca's mischevious theme is my favorite from FF6. Not "Dancing Mad", the final battle theme, but Cefca's own theme, played when he storms Figaro Castle and Doma Castle in the World of Balance.
No love for FF7? *cries* - Remarkably well done even though the whole soundtrack was done in MIDI, and sounded like a completely different soundtrack if you didn't use the included XG Synthesizer. I need to build my old Win98 box for that game again, just for the synthesizer. I've had major problems getting it to work under XP, that is without having to pay for it (if they still offer it at all).
That said, shortly after my last post in this thread, a girl who lives upstairs from me was passing by and her phone rang with the Mario Bros tune. I had to stop her to tell her how awesome it was, nerd that I am. So yeah, SNES classics FTW.
My phone will play MIDI files for ringtones which I can load onto it via a bluetooth link, and I've got the Briefing track from Descent 1 set for whenever my boss calls me... :lol:
I also have Levels 1, 2 and 12, the Simulator tracks from Terra Nova, Medical and Cyberspace tracks from SS1 on my phone, but none are actual ringtones.
:eek: You have been out-nerded. :eek:
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Is that the SYXG50 thing? I have that on my retro game computer. It came bundled on the driver CD for an old Asus motherboard. I really wanted to get it working on XP as midis sound awesome with it (I recorded many of the better ones from D1 and D2 off that computer), but it only works on 98/ME and NT4 and won't install correctly on XP. :(
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Yes, that's it, cept it was like... SYXG 70 or something. This particular version was included with FF7 PC, and it was a better build than the XG Lite synth you could get for free online from Yamaha. There was the SoftXG and XGLite, to my ear, I liked the SoftXG better, probably because it had a richer patch kit with it. I share the same woes with you, cause the awesome XG tracks are completely different from the General MIDI tracks. In fact, there were tracks included for General MIDI, AWE32, and XG synths, which I thought was awesome to have, instead of being stuck with just the GenMIDI tracks. You just don't see that anymore today with music, then again, with the ability to play back digital audio, music can be heard the way it was intended to be heard, or at least as close as possible.
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Homeworld > *
Imperial Battle Music/Turanic Battle Music > *
FS2 and Red Alert are good ones too.
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Monkey Island (All!)
Full Throttle
Day of the Tentacle
Sam'n'Max
Grim Fandango
Doom 1 & 2
Dark Forces
X-Wing
TIE Fighter
X-Wing Alliance
Jets'n'Guns
Turrican 1 & 2
StarCraft (Terrans)
Prince of Persia: Sand of Time
Darwinia
Transport Tycoon Deluxe
SimCity 2000
Xenon 2 (Amiga version)
Unreal Tournament
Bubble Bobble
New Zealand Story
IK/IK+
R-Type
Creatures 2 (C64)
Command and Conquer: Tiberiam Dawn
Sonic 1, 2, 3
North & South (Amiga/C64)
Cybernoid 2
DX Ball
TFX
Chrono Trigger
Ground Control
Dune 2000
System Shock 1 (But not 2; SShock2's music SUCKED)
Lemmings 1
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Monkey Island (All!)
Full Throttle
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Lemmings 1
ooookay... You are not voting a "small ticket"....
should this all be the best ingame music you heard or all games you played ever?? ;)
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That was an abbreviated list of the games I've played which had music which I consider to be required listening for any music buff ;)
And yes, I tend to be overly verbose. :D
Seriousy 'tho, I must admit I hadn't considered how many games I've played in total over the years until I came up with that list!
And thinking further, I reckon my list of Worst Music in a Game is also fairly long... too! ;)
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I spent some time last week recording all the Lemmings soundtracks from the Basilisk mac emulator into mp3s. They sound amazing in 44khz, incomparably better than the 11khz line-out recordings I had taken off my old mac a few years ago.
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And I could go on and on for music from nintendo games, but I won't.
This is precisely why I said no to console games.
Anything remotely quality on the console probably had a fantastic soundtrack. Consoles are just like that. Throw in some massive nostalgia factor and whats the point of this thread?
Please keep it limited to PC games you've played. You can always make another topic for Console games.
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System Shock 1 (But not 2; SShock2's music SUCKED)
Even the creepy tracks?? Wow....
Please keep it limited to PC games you've played. You can always make another topic for Console games.
Maybe an admin would be so kind to split the threads? I don't know..
On a side note...
My beyer DT770 cans just arrived. It's gonna be a long night revisiting all of these tracks again. Square wave never sounded this beautiful... *brain melts*
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Are you using an amp of some sort? I was thinking of buying that one at one point but the high impedance rating threw me off, as I would have to spend another $50-100 on an amp. It's supposed to have very accentuated bass, which should be especially good for games.
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If you can get your hands on the 80Ohm version you won't need an amp, especially with a Creative Labs souncard. I think Creative cards put out enough watts to drive anything from 32-100 ohms effectively. There really isn't a price difference between the two, as far as I have seen. I put them through the wringer tonight. Drum n Bass, House, Jazz, Classical, Rock, MIDI, James Brown, it all sounds so much cleaner than the sony MDR-CD780's I used to use. I have seen the light and have been converted! My "boycott" of Sony products may continue unabated!
The bass on these isn't punchy, or big and boomy like on the Sony MDR-V700DJ's, but it sure lets you know that it's there! Some low freq's (Dom&Roland's "Imagination") can be reproduced on these, that could not have been reproduced on my 700DJ's or CD780's. Absolutely incredible. I now need to reload FEAR and SS2 for game testing.
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Cool, it looks like they have a new 80 ohm version out now. There was only the 250 ohm one when I was buying a year ago. Looks like another thing I have to consider getting. The extra bass on those should make them outstanding for games, especially things like explosions and gunfire.