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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Flipside on April 20, 2006, 01:25:50 pm

Title: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Flipside on April 20, 2006, 01:25:50 pm
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2006/04/on-importance-of-elektra-v-barker.html

RIAA claims that simply having a Shared Files folder on your computer is breach of copyright. These people are losing the plot in a Jack Thompson kind of way...
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Unknown Target on April 20, 2006, 01:30:36 pm
Good news is this seems like a make or break case for the RIAA; if they win, they shut down the web. If they lose, they have no more legal basis for their attacks on us.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Kosh on April 20, 2006, 07:10:37 pm
I don't think I need to bother explaining how stupid this is. So does anyone still want to defend the RIAA?


Defending the RIAA is the same as defending Atilla the Hun.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on April 20, 2006, 09:20:55 pm
Who the hell defends the RIAA without actually being employed by the RIAA in some manner :p
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: redsniper on April 20, 2006, 09:37:31 pm
I'm tempted to just make a new folder named 'Shared Files' in protest.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Ford Prefect on April 20, 2006, 09:38:40 pm
I actually want to make a folder called "Files That Are Definitely Not Shared".
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: redsniper on April 20, 2006, 09:42:26 pm
You know, I remember being taught in kindergarten that sharing was a good thing. I guess the RIAA folks missed that day.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Turambar on April 20, 2006, 09:54:48 pm
You know, I remember being taught in kindergarten that sharing was a good thing. I guess the RIAA folks missed that day.

i think they overlook that mostly, thats the only explanation.

sharing is clearly a communist idea and works against the capitalist society.  they should stop teaching it in schools, along with logic and sex education (those two just conflict with the bible, and we cant have that)
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Nix on April 21, 2006, 01:46:37 am
So you're telling me that each and every copy of windows is in breach of copyright?
(http://nix1999.shackspace.com/img/openshares.jpg)
OMG! It's a FOLDER!  And it's named SHARED FOLDERs Inside it, it says SHARES!  EVEN OPEN FILES!  EVERYONE MUST PAY!

Can you imagine one of the kooks pulling something like this??

Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Fragrag on April 21, 2006, 11:32:16 am
I actually want to make a folder called "Files That Are Definitely Not Shared".

Gonna name the folder in which I'm seeding and downloading my Bittorrent files that, it's a given.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: TheCaptain on April 23, 2006, 10:48:16 pm
Oh. My. F***in. Gawd.

This is going to be an insane case. I mean, seriously, can the RIAA hold up that argument in court? And do they have any chance against such big name internet interests? I mean, the internet cannot seriously be at risk, even in the United States, because of some bunch of fascists sittin back in their high towers lording over the music industry... can it?

Damn insanity... :p
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Flipside on April 23, 2006, 10:55:14 pm
Well, if they don't then the US government will.....

http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6064016.html
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: achtung on April 23, 2006, 10:55:33 pm
Damn insanity... :p

Hey now!  Don't go insulting insanity!  The RIAA's members are not insane, just incredibly stupid.  Even daring to say that they are insane is an insult to mentally insane people.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: TheCaptain on April 23, 2006, 11:18:45 pm
Well, if they don't then the US government will.....

http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6064016.html
wow... well, the US should just get it over with and form a secret police force. Then they can go that one step further, and just establish a psuedo-Christian dynasty in the White House, for good. To heck with this democracy BS, it only slows down Republican 'progress'! :p

The fun, carefree times online seem to be coming to an end for a lot of folks, and that'll probably continue to grow greater if that crazy bill passes through. RIAA is probably going to get their way whatever happens, way I see things. One hand washes the other and all that crap. Congress must have been 'encouraged' right by the Association's lobbyists.

A goodly portion of folks are going to get mighty paranoid mighty fast if that goes through, and it might just spread if the Americans go that way. Crap :(
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Taristin on April 24, 2006, 12:08:36 am
America sucks.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Kosh on April 24, 2006, 12:28:43 am
Well, if they don't then the US government will.....

http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6064016.html

:wtf: Why exactly are they doing this again?
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 24, 2006, 12:30:59 am
Because they were pa-I mean, were generously given campaign contributions.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Kosh on April 24, 2006, 01:06:59 am
Here's a couple of quotes from the article about what they are planning to do:

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• Permits wiretaps in investigations of copyright crimes, trade secret theft and economic espionage. It would establish a new copyright unit inside the FBI and budgets $20 million on topics including creating "advanced tools of forensic science to investigate" copyright crimes.

• Amends existing law to permit criminal enforcement of copyright violations even if the work was not registered with the U.S. Copyright Office.

So why are they treating copyright violators the same as people who plot to kill presidents and bomb embassies?

The second one just opens up the flood gates for massive abuses. Anyone anywhere can suddenly says that anything was "theirs" and start filing suits (and maybe even win, knowing the legal system).

EDIT: I just remembered something that is somewhat related to this I found a couple of months ago:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060121-6025.html

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Big Content would like to outlaw things no one has even thought of yet

Bye-bye innovation........
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: TheCaptain on April 24, 2006, 02:12:44 am
Well, that post was pretty ominous - but Big Content? Never heard of it, so I don't quite get the context of the article. What do they do?
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 24, 2006, 02:48:14 am
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• Amends existing law to permit criminal enforcement of copyright violations even if the work was not registered with the U.S. Copyright Office.

On the one hand, this is bound to provoke insanity in the current Age of Litigation...on the other, it could also give one legal recourse against somebody who hijacks your fan works. Which is a good thing, though minor, from where I'm sitting. Now if only it didn't have the rest of the implications.

Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Kosh on April 24, 2006, 02:57:40 am
Well, that post was pretty ominous - but Big Content? Never heard of it, so I don't quite get the context of the article. What do they do?

It's a reference to content providers that don't like these new technologies (especially file sharing) that have appeared over the past few years.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Ford Prefect on April 24, 2006, 03:01:18 am
America sucks.
America love you long time. Fifteen dollar.
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 24, 2006, 04:58:57 am
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• Says copyright holders can impound "records documenting the manufacture, sale or receipt of items involved in" infringements.

What the hell? Since when did record companies become law enforcement?
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: TheCaptain on April 24, 2006, 06:05:18 am
So I guess, by RIAA standards, I'm breaking the law by transferring music using iTunes...? :p

And Apple are accessories to the crime, by applying the program to allow me to transfer legally-obtained music onto an mp3 device? Or has this at least been accepted by the stooges as an 'appropriate practice'? ;)
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Unknown Target on April 24, 2006, 06:21:32 am
So any updates on the case?
Title: Re: RIAA goes Atilla....again....
Post by: Turambar on April 24, 2006, 07:18:21 am
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Such changes are necessary because new technology is "encouraging large-scale criminal enterprises to get involved in intellectual-property theft," Gonzales said, adding that proceeds from the illicit businesses are used, "quite frankly, to fund terrorism activities."

where do the lobbyists live?

i can really only see one way to get rid of them, with a very sharp object and a shovel.  and make it so that it frightens everyone so that they never lobby again.  the lobbyists are the biggest problem, but they have money, so theyre impossible to weed out.  our country is being run by israel and corporations, and there's nothing the people can do about it.