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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Unknown Target on April 21, 2006, 01:42:36 pm
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/21/leisure.startrek.reut/index.html
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- More than three years after the last "Star Trek" movie crashed at the box office, the venerable sci-fi franchise is being revived by the director of the upcoming "Mission: Impossible" sequel, Daily Variety reported in its Friday edition.
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Meh, sounds like the Dreaded 'Starfleet Academy' I predicted about 3 years ago...
'You will be carrying live phasers, but there will be no call to use them.... Kirk! Do you get that, numbnuts?'
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Still treating this as a rumor. It's been out there since about the time of Nemesis, but who knows what will make it to production.
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Poor horse... can't they just give it a proper burial instead of savagely beating the corpse over and over again?
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but savagely beating the horse is so Fun. :D maybe hollywood has made a sport out of Star Trek movies..
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It can't be as bad as Ep. I.
Can it?
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Shame, I was hoping for another totally original Star Trek film.
Star Trek XI: The Download for Data
The crew of the Enterprise must steal it from Space Dock, and go back to the planet where they found B4. Unfortunately, while they are there they meet a Romulan Bird-of-Prey and must sacrifice the Enterprise and beam down to the surface, from there they find an enhancement for B4 which would give him Data's intelligence, as well as his memories. After they find this they will take over the Bird of Prey using phasers they kept in secret, travel back in time and go to Dr Soong's home. Once there Dr Crusher must risk her life to put Data's personality and intelligence into B4.
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.... :wtf:
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.... :wtf:
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Wow...does not have me jumping out of my seat at all. And I love Star Trek stuff...
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It's a pity really, they made Star Trek and Next Gen movies, they couldn't make a Voyager movie very easily, which leaves DS9, which had awesome movie potential that was never used.
I really wonder sometimes what these execs are thinking.
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They shoulda just gone Pearl Harbour in Star Trek's ass.
Start it out with some cadets coming out of the Academy at the start of the Dominion War, have them fighting for a while, then bring them back to Starfleet Headquarters for some reason, show the Breen attack on Earth, then finish the last 45 minutes of the film with them fighting through to the end of the war with all but two of the main characters being killed off. The heroic Captain gets paralysed in the 'Cardassian Rebellion' battle, and the tough grunt ends the movie saying he's heading back out to fight the continuing ground-war against some random Dominion ally in the border colonies.
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Please, you all don't really think
Star Trek XI: The Download for Data
The crew of the Enterprise must steal it from Space Dock, and go back to the planet where they found B4. Unfortunately, while they are there they meet a Romulan Bird-of-Prey and must sacrifice the Enterprise and beam down to the surface, from there they find an enhancement for B4 which would give him Data's intelligence, as well as his memories. After they find this they will take over the Bird of Prey using phasers they kept in secret, travel back in time and go to Dr Soong's home. Once there Dr Crusher must risk her life to put Data's personality and intelligence into B4.
is serious, do you? Its a joke.
Here (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050310b.php), read your hearts out.
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I'm actually encouraged by this. Yes, it sounds like it has great potential for lameness, but look at it this way. They aren't going to have William Shatner or Leonard Nimoy in any sort of roles (besides perhaps a gratituous "old friends remeniscing" scene at the beginning or end), which means that we'll be watching completely (ok, mostly) unheard-of actors. What that means is that the doors to doing movies that aren't "The Never-Ending Adventures Of Kirk & Spock / Picard & Riker", but are set in the Star Trek universe. This, I believe, will allow movies that are much more in tune with what people want to see these days - heavy realism in their entertainment (the reality show phase a few years back, which birthed pseudo-reality / documentary-style TV shows such as 24, Firefly, BSG, and Lost).
Imagine, if you will, a movie with a similar feel to, say, Predator, just with Trek universe elements. Or a reimagining of Trek in the same way that RDM reimagined BSG. ;)
ALthough the path may be rough and tumble, I think the direction could be excellent.
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Imagine, if you will, a movie with a similar feel to, say, Predator, just with Trek universe elements. Or a reimagining of Trek in the same way that RDM reimagined BSG. ;)
ALthough the path may be rough and tumble, I think the direction could be excellent.
"Reimagine Trek"?! Are you f***ing crazy? I'm all for a little more realism in Trek, but the idea of Trek is to have a happy future. If someone reimagined Trek to resemble something like modern BSG, you will have seriously pissed off one of the largest and most dedicated fan-bases in the world.
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Depends how it's done, it's ok to walk a thorny path as long as it leads to Eden. ;)
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That's a valid point, but I doubt anyone will want to incite the wrath of thousands upon thousands upon thousands of nerds, geeks and dweebs. They may be losers, but together they are strong...
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I'm thinking they'll try to pull a RDM, but won't understand the fact that Trek needs some happiness or else it's not Trek.
$20 says they give everybody projectile weapons, modern-military type uniforms, and have them off blowing the crap out of something.
The best Star Treks, IMHO, were the original ones; especially II, IV, and VI. What did they all have in common?
1) Lovable characters; one of the reasons we all love Star Trek is because the characters are so...real while at the same time being the best friend you never had, imo. Personally I love Kirk more than Picard's crew because A) I like it old school, and B) Picard and his people are just a little too perfect and wear their hearts on their sleeves 24/7.
2) Smart plots: II, IV, VI and First Contact (forget the number) all had interesting, smart plotlines that were engaging to the viewer. Not so in recent "omg kill them because they're bad" STs.
3) Comedy: Star Treks were funny, and a lot of that came from the characters interaction. Nowadays the push to gritty "realism" just makes everything so...depressing.
and lastly:
4) Cool starship battles: Now I think this is where the old series shines, because rather than "Target the nearest bad guy and fire," it was really like the captains were thinking and all the like; especially in ST II, with the whole Khan nebulae thing; a classic.
Anyway, end of rant, and what does this movie have?
1) Lovable characters: They better be good, because they're brand new on the screen. They better be hard-pressed to make it good.
2) Smart plots: From all indications it looks to be a cut and dry sci fi war movie.
3) Comedy: Oh please. It's about war, and everyone knows that once Hollywood makes a serious movie about war, no jokes are allowed.
4) Starship battles: As of yet undecided, but it will probably be like Nemesis and "circle around while firing and doing stupid things!"
Anyway, that's my $.02.
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Yeah, thing is that concerns me is Star Trek has always been at least 50% about finding solutions to problems by using at least 2 pages of Technoblurb. That's half the fun of the fantasy. It will be interesting to see how they manage to do this without creating something that has nothing whatsoever in common with the Star Trek universe, as Mefustae said.
If people cannot relate to anything or anyone in the film, them they will have a very hard job selling it as a Star Trek movie.
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i'll wait until something more concrete arises before i either think it's a good thing, or just roll my eyes at how **** it could be.
either way, i'm not holding out a lot of hope, i mean, a great deal of trek's fans will generally dislike anything that isn't that rose-tinted utopian vision that gene roddenbery had in mind when he created star trek. they don't like anything that's "Dark" the borg, for example, were initially portrayed as the darker side of technology, etc, but i digress, either way, a movie that rakes in dough at the box office is a no-brainer these days, i mean, look at some certain star wars prequels, a series that will draw in decent ratings and isn't taken off the air after a few seasons, that's the hard part.
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Then Mickey Maloney ducked his head
When a noggin of whiskey flew at him,
It missed, and falling on the bed
The liquor scattered over [Star Trek]!
The corpse revives! See how he raises!
[Star Trek] rising from the bed,
Says,"Whirl your whiskey around like blazes
Thanum an Dhul! Do you thunk I'm dead?"
Whack fol the darn O, dance to your partner
Whirl the floor, your trotters shake;
Wasn't it the truth I told you
Lots of fun at [Star Trek]'s wake!
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I'm taking a "wait and see" approach on this one. Still, as one of the seemingly few Enterprise fans out there, the prospect of any new Trek is a happy one for me. :)
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Then Mickey Maloney ducked his head
When a noggin of whiskey flew at him,
It missed, and falling on the bed
The liquor scattered over [Star Trek]!
The corpse revives! See how he raises!
[Star Trek] rising from the bed,
Says,"Whirl your whiskey around like blazes
Thanum an Dhul! Do you thunk I'm dead?"
Whack fol the darn O, dance to your partner
Whirl the floor, your trotters shake;
Wasn't it the truth I told you
Lots of fun at [Star Trek]'s wake!
You abused Finnegan's Wake for that? :wtf:
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This project is separate from the previously rumored script developed by Eric Jendresen and overseen by Rick Berman. The former Star Trek producer is not involved in this project.
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Y'know what I pondered a few days ago?
Voyager is actually more like TOS than all the other series. Especially with Chakotay, Janeway and Kim banging their way across the quadrant.
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My God we need that in our Smilie cache, immediately!
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You abused Finnegan's Wake for that?
The imagery was applicable. Satire knows no limits. And I'm running out of ways to express my ardent desire for Star Trek to be laid to rest.
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This project is separate from the previously rumored script developed by Eric Jendresen and overseen by Rick Berman. The former Star Trek producer is not involved in this project.
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This better be true.
Otherwise....
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(linked from today's userfriendly)
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What exactly does everyone hate about Nemisis? It's not good, but it's not that bad either.
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They left too much of the story on the cutting room floor.
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What exactly does everyone hate about Nemisis? It's not good, but it's not that bad either.
The basic stupidity and lack of respect for the fans.
This (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Pictorial-1.html) sums it up beautifully. :lol:
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What exactly does everyone hate about Nemisis? It's not good, but it's not that bad either.
The basic stupidity and lack of respect for the fans.
This (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Pictorial-1.html) sums it up beautifully. :lol:
Ooohh, the truth hurts. As a matter of fact, I completely forgot what happened in that movie, except me muttering to my friend "That's what you get for letting a woman drive." after Troi smashed the enterprise into the reman ship.
Thanks for that perfect 5 minute summary.
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Didn't Picard want her to? ;)
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Poor understanding of what an ion storm is here:
(http://www.stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Nemesis-07.jpg)
And Picard has turned down the rank of Admiral multiple times:
(http://www.stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Nemesis-09a.jpg)
What can you expect from a SW site trashing ST, though?
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Y'know what I pondered a few days ago?
Voyager is actually more like TOS than all the other series. Especially with Chakotay, Janeway and Kim banging their way across the quadrant.
Yep. Kim was a manslut.
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This (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Pictorial-1.html) sums it up beautifully. :lol:
That's all true. however, you can do that with pretty much any movie. just go through every scene and find something that you can say about it that makes it seem bad. A lot of the stuff they said could also be applied to star wars.
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Tis true that this guy is a SW fanboi anyway, read his review of the Starwars movies to see, but the ironic thing is that it is one of those rare cases where you'll find Star Trek and Star Wars fans agreeing about what was wrong with that movie. I caught onto the Prime Directive thing the moment it happened, and the rest of it, to me, just seemed like a really dragged out episode from the series. It was ok, but theres bee a general degredation in the quality of these movies, it peaked at Wrath of Khan for me and has been going downhill ever since.
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Read through the Star Trek: Insurrection stuff about the Federation government. Ironic stuff coming from a SW fanboy.
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Tis true that this guy is a SW fanboi anyway, read his review of the Starwars movies to see, but the ironic thing is that it is one of those rare cases where you'll find Star Trek and Star Wars fans agreeing about what was wrong with that movie. I caught onto the Prime Directive thing the moment it happened, and the rest of it, to me, just seemed like a really dragged out episode from the series. It was ok, but theres bee a general degredation in the quality of these movies, it peaked at Wrath of Khan for me and has been going downhill ever since.
Now, now, there have been several good Star Trek movies, namely the Even-Odd curse with 2, 4, 6 & 8 being the good ones, with Nemesis finally breaking the curse... but in the wrong direction...
Is it just me or did we have a thread exactly like this about a month or two ago, where someone posted the Pictorial Summary, and a few posts later someone mentioned he was a total Star Wars Fanboi [he thought Episode 1 was good?!]... time is repeating itself...
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Coulda been me, I suppose. I actually enjoy the new Star Wars movies more than the originals. The discussion doesn't ring a bell, though. So probably not.
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Now, now, there have been several good Star Trek movies, namely the Even-Odd curse with 2, 4, 6 & 8 being the good ones, with Nemesis finally breaking the curse... but in the wrong direction..
Yep. Wrath of Khan was the best movie they ever made in the ST universe but the other even numbered ones before Nemesis were pretty good too (Although I have to take issue with First Contact for beginning the pussification of the Borg).
I've always liked TNG but I'm not going to let that blind me to the flaws in Nemesis or discount the views of someone simply because they happen to like Star Wars a lot.
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I liked Nemesis...fun special effects, and the Nemesis just looked cool.
IF nothing else, it provided the inspiration for this :D:
(http://www.stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Nemesis-05.jpg)
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Best trek movie: Directors Cut WOK.
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I liked Nemesis...fun special effects, and the Nemesis just looked cool.
The Nemesis? Shinzon? The Scimitar? The word 'Nemesis' from the title?
I remember reading the article from startrek.com that claimed Star Trek X would have a character that was as Kahn was to Kirk, but to Picard. Needless to say, I was disappointed.
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Best trek movie: Directors Cut WOK.
Umm, First Contact kthx.
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Quiet you. Kids today, pfft.
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I liked Nemesis...more than Inssurection and almost more than Generations. First Contact was the best of the TNG movies.
Favourites from the original series movies were 2, 4, and 6.
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Generations left me cold, the original idea was to have both Enterprises meet, and take on a common enemy, personally, I would much rather have seen the whole lot of them interacting than just Kirk and Picard (Rumour has it that the Enterprise D was to be damaged beyond repair in the final battle).
The Voyage Home was pretty good, though certainly tongue in cheek as far as the actors were concered ;)
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Generations left me cold, the original idea was to have both Enterprises meet, and take on a common enemy, personally, I would much rather have seen the whole lot of them interacting than just Kirk and Picard (Rumour has it that the Enterprise D was to be damaged beyond repair in the final battle).
Not that continuity is something Star Trek has ever really cared about, but that would have wrecked about a dozen episodes of TNG right there. They manage to go through enough tie-ins to TOS Trek that would have required the crew to not have undergone any super-time-warps or the like.
The Voyage Home was pretty good, though certainly tongue in cheek as far as the actors were concered ;)
"Hello Computer"
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"Hello Computer"
no, no.. "Good morning, Dave" :p
it could be worse, though... "Snakes on a Starship" ? :nervous:
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"Hello Computer"
no, no.. "Good morning, Dave" :p
it could be worse, though... "Snakes on a Starship" ? :nervous:
It's only funny if you read that line in a scottish accent.
Sort of like "Nuclear Wessels" only works in Chekov.