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Title: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: Starks on April 24, 2006, 07:48:48 pm
Just curious.
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: Mars on April 24, 2006, 08:00:53 pm
No, I don't belive anyone has done an HTL Knossos, thing is- it moves so fast and is usually so far away it's probably pretty low on the priority list.

If you have 3D shockwaves, the Meson bomb should have 3D shockwaves already.
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these b
Post by: StratComm on April 24, 2006, 08:25:18 pm
The knossos is almost as low on the priority list as the Pharos, but then someone's already working on that.  And the TC-TRI's been done too.  I'd much rather see more effort put in to particularly the Vasudan fleet, but then people will do what they want so maybe that can't be helped.

Part of the problem with the knossos is deciding exactly what to high-polify about it.  The shape is pretty basic and the textures really don't offer many hints as to where to go from there.
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these b
Post by: Galemp on April 24, 2006, 11:33:50 pm
I'd tread carefully as far as the Knossos is concerned, for a couple reasons.
First, it's always moving so fast and the pieces are so far away, it's impossible to get close enough to appreciate any details.
Second, it appears as-is in a whole slew of command briefing animations and cutscenes, in wireframe, closeup, with diagrams and everything. It's the most heavily documented POF in the game resources.
Finally, it's the only example of Ancient design we have to go on. With Terran and Vasudan ships there's a general idea of what can be done with the shape, but the existing Knossos geometry is all there is we have to work with.
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these b
Post by: FireCrack on April 25, 2006, 07:04:41 am
Actualy, I did at one point start work on an HTL knossos...
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these b
Post by: Black Wolf on April 26, 2006, 11:57:14 am
The knossos is almost as low on the priority list as the Pharos, but then someone's already working on that.  And the TC-TRI's been done too.  I'd much rather see more effort put in to particularly the Vasudan fleet, but then people will do what they want so maybe that can't be helped.

As silly as it seemed for a major HTLage project, the TC-TRI was done because the old version looked nasty next to the new, HTL Triton.
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these b
Post by: StratComm on April 26, 2006, 12:44:07 pm
My comment was really directed at the Pharos (the TC-TRI was easily the worst model in the original archives in terms of quality and time spent in development, right up there with the Dis container) but yes, there's often cause to do something secondary because it's frequently in contrast with a new version of something else.
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 27, 2006, 12:26:12 am
0,o

Who's doing the Pharos?
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these b
Post by: StratComm on April 27, 2006, 01:29:21 pm
Firecrack, IIRC.
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these b
Post by: FireCrack on April 27, 2006, 02:25:04 pm
^yup, just to piss you off.

And now that finals are done i can finish it off!
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these b
Post by: StratComm on April 28, 2006, 01:34:19 am
:p
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: ShivanSpS on April 28, 2006, 02:11:11 am
An HTL Knossos is really needed? the current one looks great at distance, you will never going to come so close to see anything....
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: Ferret on April 28, 2006, 05:06:46 am
Whereas I think there's actually too much detail suggested on the Knossos textures to actually make HTL'ing it work well without being forced to miss half of it out.

Oh and I quite often came into close contact with the Knossos pieces during retail missions. =/
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: ShivanSpS on April 28, 2006, 10:15:37 pm
The Knossos needs more detail than this?
http://galeon.com/shivansps/knossos.JPG

the image loss quality when passed to JPEG, in game the knossos looks great... even in close range...
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: Mars on April 28, 2006, 10:28:00 pm
Well when your that close it does need more detail, but usually, when your that close, your going to die anyway.

BTW: Why are you near a Knossos in a ship armed withAvenger, ML-16s, and MX-50s?
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: ShivanSpS on April 28, 2006, 11:13:06 pm
opsss, Classified. :P
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: phreak on April 30, 2006, 01:41:47 pm
if anything, a hi-poly knossos would at least serve to improve the lighting cast on it.
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: ShivanSpS on April 30, 2006, 03:35:50 pm
Yes, but the knossos should be at the last of the list... even FS1 ships should have higer priority....
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these b
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 30, 2006, 10:48:05 pm
^yup, just to piss you off.

And now that finals are done i can finish it off!

There goes my only hope to contribute in any meaningful way to the MediaVPs.

Curse you! :p
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: Mongoose on May 01, 2006, 04:11:29 pm
Come to think of it, the Pharos is actually a pretty good candidate for some hi-polifying, seeing as how one tends to spend a great deal of time next to/inside of them. :p
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: Starks on May 04, 2006, 10:28:26 pm
A HTL Knossos would be good for the mission where the GTVA blows up the device. You can get pretty damn close to the Knossos.
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: Taristin on May 04, 2006, 10:41:12 pm
You're close to it in "A Lion at the Door."
Title: Re: HTL Knossos? 3D Meson shockwaves? Have these been done?
Post by: Gregster2k on May 05, 2006, 09:44:08 am
The meson bomb should have its own special explosion, I think. A very, very, very, very, very, LARGE and BRIGHT explosion, which blinds the player if they look at it as if they'd just stared into the sun.

We're talking Counterstrike Flashbangs here folks. (Now there's an idea for an after-explosion effect if a player is too close to one...)