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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Setekh on May 03, 2006, 08:11:16 am

Title: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Setekh on May 03, 2006, 08:11:16 am
Not sure if you guys have heard about this. An Israelie anti-spam company, called Blue Security (http://www.bluesecurity.com/), has recently suffered a backlash from spammers. I use Blue Frog, their program, which is how I found out. See link below:

http://internetweek.cmp.com/187002776?cid=rssfeed_pl_inw

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Blue Security, a Menlo Park, Calif.-based start-up,  debuted its registry and BlueFrog client last summer. The company's researchers, who work out of Israel, analyze and vet the spam, trace the message to a Web site (typically the site selling the product or service), and find a form on the site that can be used to complain or opt-out. The BlueFrog client then sends automatically fills out the found form once for each spam received. The result: the site is overwhelmed with opt-out requests or complaints.

"You are being emailed because you are a user of Blue Security's well-known software 'BlueFrog.' Today, the Blue Security database became known to the worst spammers worldwide," read the intimidating e-mail. "Within 48 hours, the database will be published on the Internet, and your email address will be open to them all. After this, you will see the spam sent to your mailbox increase 10 - 20 fold."

The message also claimed that "Do Not Intrude Registry" users are breaking the law, and concluded with "If you think you can merely change your email address and be safe while still running BlueFrog, you are in for a big surprise. This is just the beginning..."
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Bobboau on May 03, 2006, 08:14:45 am
this IS war.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: aldo_14 on May 03, 2006, 08:16:09 am
If they carried through the threat, surely it'd just mean BlueFrog would be blocking more spammers trying to capitalize upon the db?

I suspect it's just a bollocks threat, though, and they're/he's trying to scare people by claiming to have the db when they don't.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Grug on May 03, 2006, 08:18:47 am
Never heard of the software...

Wonder if they are Palestinian hackers? :nervous:
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Setekh on May 03, 2006, 08:20:18 am
The software is pretty neat - especially if you use a hotmail, yahoo or gmail account (with which it integrates very easily). Worth giving it a go - I'd send you a link to more information, except most of their site is down from all the traffic they've received lately (DDOS or not).

What's interesting is that I think even I was hit by this. I typically receive 10-15 spams a day at my normal Gmail account, but yesterday evening I got home and found that I'd received almost 100 spams in the last 12 hours. What was weirder than that was that about half of that got through Gmail's spam filter, which rarely happens.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Grug on May 03, 2006, 08:23:30 am
Funnily enough, gmail is the only account I get regular spam. My hotmail one seems fairly clean in comparison.

Makes me wonder about gmail's privacy statement sometimes. Maybe I should give it a more thorough reading...
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: WeatherOp on May 03, 2006, 08:31:36 am
I don't get spam, besides the one from MSN wanting me to uprade my hotmail account.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Bobboau on May 03, 2006, 08:34:00 am
I instaled the software, but I'm haveing a problem getting it working, I guess I have to wait untill the current seige ends, if they wanted a fight they ****ing found one!
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Setekh on May 03, 2006, 08:36:56 am
Yeah, it'll be a bit difficult to sign up when the site's down. But it's great, I protect 4 of my email addresses (you're entitled to 10 per account) and even one of my old addresses - which I abandoned because of the overwhelming spam a couple of years ago - is sitting pretty clean at the moment. I was really impressed by that alone.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Bobboau on May 03, 2006, 08:39:45 am
they wouldn't be putting up such a fight if it wasn't effective software, oh, they are going to get it.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Grug on May 03, 2006, 08:42:51 am
Viva revolution baby!
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: aldo_14 on May 03, 2006, 08:48:13 am
Viva revolution baby!

Wii?
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Grug on May 03, 2006, 08:58:20 am
Viva revolution baby!

Wii?

That too...
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Setekh on May 03, 2006, 09:02:34 am
Wii?

Oui?
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: aldo_14 on May 03, 2006, 09:19:55 am
Wii?

Oui?

Mais, non.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Grug on May 03, 2006, 09:49:38 am
*Readies teh broom*

Stop it now or face the consequences.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Unknown Target on May 03, 2006, 11:14:19 am
I use Gmail and used to use Yahoo. In the year or two that I've had my two Gmail addresses, I have gotten about 5 spam messages total. Yahoo was a bit more, and after I stopped using it, it went to hell, but it was better than MSN.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Taristin on May 03, 2006, 12:58:45 pm
I only ever really get spam from MSN, on my hotmail. Rarely one goes to GMX. But GMX's filters catch 99% of it.
IMO GMX has the best spam filter Ive seen.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: NGTM-1R on May 04, 2006, 02:30:34 am
Oddly enough my Yahoo account seems 100% effective at trapping spam...
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Turambar on May 04, 2006, 12:51:41 pm
gmail is great for spam

and the only things i find in my spam folder are almost legitimate advertisements.  They have proper spelling, seem to be selling real products, and dont have those annoying strings of letters that i think they use to pass filters...
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Polpolion on May 04, 2006, 03:58:47 pm
They haven't seen spam until they've seen me...
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Sandwich on May 05, 2006, 03:50:40 am
I like their solution to spam - spam back! :p
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: vyper on May 05, 2006, 06:27:31 am
Nice fellas: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/05/04/blue_security_dos_flak/
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: aldo_14 on May 17, 2006, 10:55:16 am
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/17/blue_security_folds/ :(
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Bobboau on May 17, 2006, 11:15:15 am
the ****ers, I suported them and they give up
:mad:
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Sandwich on May 17, 2006, 04:23:22 pm
*unwillingly sees parallel between capitulating to spammers and capitulating to terrorism*
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: aldo_14 on May 17, 2006, 04:25:38 pm
*unwittingly see parallel between capitulating to spammers and giving a cheese sandwich to a stranger*
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Sandwich on May 17, 2006, 04:42:47 pm
Uhm...


Group A does not nice things. Group B tries to stop them. Group A fights back even harder, threatening Group C. Group B gives up and allows Group A to resume their not nice activities so as not to endanger Group C.

Group A then goes on to endanger Group C anyway.

Now, did I miss something?
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: aldo_14 on May 17, 2006, 05:10:59 pm
Uhm...


Group A does not nice things. Group B tries to stop them. Group A fights back even harder, threatening Group C. Group B gives up and allows Group A to resume their not nice activities so as not to endanger Group C.

Group A then goes on to endanger Group C anyway.

Now, did I miss something?

Yeah.  Terrorism isn't defined in nice little groups of A, B and C.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Sandwich on May 17, 2006, 05:27:34 pm
Neither are spammers. It's an intentionally simplified analogy, you know.
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: aldo_14 on May 17, 2006, 05:35:40 pm
Neither are spammers. It's an intentionally simplified analogy, you know.

Like a cheese sandwich. :)
Title: Re: Spam war surrounding Blue Security
Post by: Sandwich on May 17, 2006, 06:16:09 pm
I'm partial to roast beef sandwiches myself, but whatever floats yer boat. :)