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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on May 04, 2006, 03:37:52 am
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Sorry, couldn't think of an amusing title....oh no! Title has a 'tit' in it! Quick, re-rate it! Get the kids out of here!
The Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) has just sent word that the rating assigned to Bethesda's and 2K Games' The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion has been changed from T (Teen 13+) to M (Mature 17+). "The content causing the ESRB to change the rating involves more detailed depictions of blood and gore than were considered in the original rating, as well as the presence of a locked-out art file or 'skin' that, if accessed through a third party modification to the PC version of the game, allows the user to play with topless versions of female characters," said the ESRB in a release.
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=12604&rp=49
Former, fair enough (I presume) if it's more violent than expected. Latter - utterly ridiculous.
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Indeed.
Crazy buffoons.
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They are dumbasses, pure and simple.
By judging a game modified by third parties, they are opening stupid rating systems.
Anyone here remembers the baby in DEM, right? What would happen to FreeSpace's rating if someone were to use a similar aplication to another "not so innocent" image?
In the end, they are trying to make so that game developers make their games harder to mod.
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:rolleyes:
this is getting tiresome, really.
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this is getting tiresome, really.
It's the price we have to pay for protecting the fragile, fragile minds of our children. The female form is the devil incarnate!!!
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O RLY?
(http://www.intothemaelstrom.co.uk/devilchick.jpg)
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YA RLY
(http://www.compuserve.nl/film/data/Bedazzled/lg10.jpg)
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this is getting tiresome, really.
It's the price we have to pay for protecting the fragile, fragile minds of our children. The female form is the devil incarnate!!!
same arguement as before with the hot coffee mod, if the kiddies can download such a mod from the internet, they're old enough, either that, or their parents are too dense.
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same arguement as before with the hot coffee mod, if the kiddies can download such a mod from the internet, they're old enough, either that, or their parents are too dense.
Logic?! F*** that s***! Logic has no place in this arguement!
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same arguement as before with the hot coffee mod, if the kiddies can download such a mod from the internet, they're old enough, either that, or their parents are too dense.
Logic?! F*** that s***! Logic has no place in this arguement!
human intelligence has always remained constant, the population just increases
(dunno where i heard that one, but it fits in this case)
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well, they can download a mod in wich the offending content is included just as easily....
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well, they can download a mod in wich the offending content is included just as easily....
but companies should SEE THE FUTURE
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I always liked the BBFC's (the British film/tv/computer regulators) responce to these things which basicly boiled down to them saying that since its not a part of the retail package, or even an optional extra in the retail package why bother changing the rating?
What'll be next?
Hey look, some nerdy kid from the east coast has made a mod for KOTR that puts Bastilla in a thong and makes her topless! The developers made this possible by including textures for the game models in the game that any child who can hack the game files with custom home made modding tools could get to and alter!
:jaw:
Lets up the rating and boycot Bioware & Lucasarts!
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Hey look, some nerdy kid from the east coast has made a mod for KOTR that puts Bastilla in a thong and makes her topless! The developers made this possible by including textures for the game models in the game that any child who can hack the game files with custom home made modding tools could get to and alter!
where?!
:D
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If it is in the CD, then they are selling explicit materials. it doesn't matter how hard it is to get to it. after all, it takes a certain amount of 3rd party software (an OS) and hardware (a computer) to unlock any of the contents of a game.
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Hey look, some nerdy kid from the east coast has made a mod for KOTR that puts Bastilla in a thong and makes her topless! The developers made this possible by including textures for the game models in the game that any child who can hack the game files with custom home made modding tools could get to and alter!
where?!
:D
It's in....
Damn, I've said too much.
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If it is in the CD, then they are selling explicit materials. it doesn't matter how hard it is to get to it. after all, it takes a certain amount of 3rd party software (an OS) and hardware (a computer) to unlock any of the contents of a game.
That's what I'm thinking. This sounds like the same thing as the whole Hot Coffee fiasco. What I really have to ask is, after all the stink over that, why the hell would the developers include that type of "hidden" content in the game to begin with? They had to know that they were only asking for trouble.
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If it is in the CD, then they are selling explicit materials. it doesn't matter how hard it is to get to it. after all, it takes a certain amount of 3rd party software (an OS) and hardware (a computer) to unlock any of the contents of a game.
That's what I'm thinking. This sounds like the same thing as the whole Hot Coffee fiasco. What I really have to ask is, after all the stink over that, why the hell would the developers include that type of "hidden" content in the game to begin with? They had to know that they were only asking for trouble.
Probably because the artists are grown up adults who don't faint at the sight of a nipple, and it was easier to work with anatomically correct models and maps when figuring out stuff like clothing positions.
And I doubt Bethseda would have had a special nipple spotter to go through acres of art files on the master to catch it in unused files.
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YA RLY
(http://www.compuserve.nl/film/data/Bedazzled/lg10.jpg)
They're totally stealing my idea for allegorical porn!
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And I doubt Bethseda would have had a special nipple spotter to go through acres of art files on the master to catch it in unused files.
Sounds like an idea for a porn search engine.
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Remember the Super Bowl Half-Time scandal?
OMGOMGOMGOMG ITS A TIT ON TV!!!!!! OUR KIDS ARE SCARRED FOREVER!!! WERE ALL GONNA DIE! ITS TEH END!!!!!111
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This will end with babies being blindfolded during breastfeeding...
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Isn't public breast feeding illegal?
And also, the more you try to block something out, the more people want to know why (mostly). Seems to work against them in a way.
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Erm, not that I'm aware of, in fact its protected here (UK) IIRC.
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Isn't public breast feeding illegal?
Yeah, you know all the breast-feeding mothers doing 5 in Sing-Sing.
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It would be really stupid for public breast feeding to be illegal, but the some parts of the government exist for the creation of stupid laws.
I don't see how you could have somthing preverted in Freespace 2, unless there was a window into the showers on an Orion, which could prove to be interesting.
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I don't see how you could have somthing preverted in Freespace 2
Oh to be so young and naive again :)
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I don't see how you could have somthing preverted in Freespace 2
you wanna bet?
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...unless there was a window into the showers on an Orion, which could prove to be interesting.
Hmmm...
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It would be really stupid for public breast feeding to be illegal, but the some parts of the government exist for the creation of stupid laws.
I don't see how you could have somthing preverted in Freespace 2, unless there was a window into the showers on an Orion, which could prove to be interesting.
Like the GTD Dildo?
(http://www.fattonys.com/images/bhip.jpg)
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I don't see how you could have somthing preverted in Freespace 2, unless there was a window into the showers on an Orion, which could prove to be interesting.
I think you need to blame an0n...reskinned Elysium. I've long since lost the files. :p
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http://www.solidsharkey.com/
Today brought us a shocking revelation. Oblivion can be obscene if you alter it to become obscene. Think about that. Some innocent child might accidentally search for, download, and install a mod, having their fragile psyche forever scarred by gazing upon a CG nipple. The rating has thankfully been changed to reflect this unincluded mature content.
This isn't the end, however. It's just one small part of something even larger and more terrifying. This potential for indecency has been recklessly included in every single piece of media ever produced. By anyone. Ever. These irresponsible publishers and artists should be held accountable. I drew tits on Spider Man with a crayon once when I was six. I also added some dirty words to his thought balloons. At the time I thought it was funny, but it wasn't. It was sick, and it was somebody else's fault. It's despicable when these money hungry, amoral companies produce media that can so easily be altered. It's practically rape.
Which brings us to something even more disturbing. Recent studies have shown that pretty much all children are born with two or more nipples. It's clearly our duty as parents and Americans to protect them from their nipples with corrective surgery. But first, we should sue whoever is responsible for our kids having them in the first place. As long as that's not us, of course.
But it's not just media, publishers, and genetics. We're up against nothing less than the universe itself, which is filled with incalculable amounts of alterable matter and energy, none of which is safely labeled as potentially containing adult content. Any innocent child can easily get their hands on some of this unregulated matter and/or energy, possibly accidentally using it to create crude representations of boobies. Every effort must be made to keep any fragment of matter or energy out of the hands of minors.
I mean, other people should make every effort, under penalty of fine or imprisonment. Write your congressman.
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It's true. (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/41695)
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Why do the developers include such content? Can't they just eliminate the "objectionable" models from the final resource pack that gets compiled with the game, instead of locking them away? Or is this a mod created by someone else that inserts the models into the game? I'm confused... Sounds like Hot Coffee to me.
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Why do the developers include such content? Can't they just eliminate the "objectionable" models from the final resource pack that gets compiled with the game, instead of locking them away? Or is this a mod created by someone else that inserts the models into the game? I'm confused... Sounds like Hot Coffee to me.
What makes you think they even know they're in there?
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Why do the developers include such content? Can't they just eliminate the "objectionable" models from the final resource pack that gets compiled with the game, instead of locking them away?
just as an example, my freespace open folder has 1,400 files, not including the files in the VPs, which would at least double/triple that number. And it's not like they can just search for filenames (boobs.dds), in fact they have to manually open each file (almost all of the files in a game are either models or textures) and check it themselves. virtually every game disk can be opened somehow, so it's not gonna be limited to PC games either. game developers are working tight scedules. How do you think the gaming public would take the following scenerios?
1. (directed towards halo fans) yeaaaah, we kinda had to leave out any sort of multiplayer, but we're absolutely sure that none of the files show bare nipples.
2. (zelda fans) yeah, twilight princess is gonna be delayed for two more years. sorry about that. You know, we we're almost absolutely sure that we didn't put anything like that in there, but we had to make sure.
3. (people who think "spore" looks cool) Yeah, the game would have gotten an M rating if we released it because some kid could possibly make a creature that looks somewhat like a giant, nude breast. So we decided to hold on releasing the game until we program in a "boob similarity tester" that automatically prevents anyone from making a creature with more than 10% boob correlation.
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Guess who (http://gamesfirst.com/?id=1280) is wading in?
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The funniest thing about that is the "suggested questions". Holy **** are there no real journalists left? Bring back Pilger!
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We need some kind of superhero.
He or she or it could fight against injustice and tits.
Someone like...
(http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/2517/defenderofchildren2im.gif)
Yes, the first to point out my geekiness gets a cookie.
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Geek!
Can I have my cookie now?