Hard Light Productions Forums
Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on May 10, 2006, 04:50:16 pm
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I've done some work on a basic HLP theme and reset everyone to use it by default. You can still select another theme in your personal profile if you'd like to. However, everyone should take note - it's not perfect. It still shows the SMF logo, the nav is still blue, etc. Some of that will change soon, some won't - there's a limit to how much I'm willing to modify beforeSMF version 1.1 is finalized (we're running Release Candidate 2 currently). So please don't go around reporting rough edges and stuff quite yet. ;)
Also, you may notice the new advertising banner, via some ad company called Clicksor. Google banned us from their ad program due to what they called "invalid clicks" - generally taken to be when someone from the same IP clicks on ads "too much". That's water under the bridge now, but I mention it because I'd rather not see a repeat of that again. So, don't just go clicking away because you want to "help the site" - it hurts, not helps. If an ad interests you, find out more. If not, don't. Simple as that.
Thanks.
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Thank god the colors are back, the default was way too bright...
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Please tell me the annoying middle of the page ad-keyword popups are a mistake. :(
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Please tell me the annoying middle of the page ad-keyword popups are a mistake. :(
Seconded.
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Eh? Where? What thread triggers them??
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sweet, the colors are back, this is very good, it made things way too bright for looking at screenshots and stuff :nod:
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This feels like HLP 2.0.
Which is terrific. Great work guys. :yes:
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HALLELUJAH! no more nekkid forums!!
the default theme was starting to grow on me. :shaking:
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Eh? Where? What thread triggers them??
Not a thread for me, just the root page of the board.
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yeah, I've been seeing them too. They make me sad. :(
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I think I accidentally let that option slip through in one of the testings. Please force-refresh your cache and let me know if those continue to show up.
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They remain in several of the forum descriptors.
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Is it just me, or are they getting worse? Like, 5 of them on a page at any given time...
And the new image ads were a bit of a surprise.
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Thats part of the ad service. Happy happy joy joy.
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I don't enjoy it either, but since we can't use Google AdSense anymore and it does not look like we'll ever will, so we have to look out for poorer quality adservices, like this Clicksor which I have never even heard of. Sandwich still has to pay for the server every month and by now he has already lost quite a bit of ads revenue to pay for it, so he's paying for it from his own pockets. And because Clicksor apparently cannot even show content relevant ads, I doubt income from it will ever be high enough. So enter the donations, except that nobody wants to donate even a small sum every bloody month. This situation could be solved by adopting an ads service that is at least close to AdSense in terms of service quality and especially has content relevant ads, so that someone would actually click the damn ads, I don't know any, do you?
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Yahoo ads?
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Can't be worse than clicksor, I hope.
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Yeah, I'm getting those inline ads now, too. *grrr* Ok, screw Clicksor. Over the weekend I'll look into what kind of ad system places like Gamespot run, see if we can get some game-related ads or something.
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Is it just me, or does the "back" button now work on a random basis in Firefox ?
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nice and all but my back button doesnt work anymore unless i click it a bunch of times really fast and even then its iffy.
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seems im not the only one with this problem
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:wtf:
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Im not a web wizard, but web pages shouldn't effect the function of the backbutton. Right? :nervous:
Opera seems to work fine. And explorer (yes I have to use explorer at work).
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Huh. Lookie here: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hostsfaq.htm#Button
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Yeah, Firefox has adblock addon and this may happen when adblock blocks an ad.
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I like the blue buttons. They add colour to an otherwise pretty monotonous site. Could you maybe consider keeping them? Or at least take all the images and desaturate them so they look silver.
Anyway, the theme looks nice. I looks more modern thank what we had before.
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It has been suggested that we'd have more than one HLP theme available, at least a darker (this) and a brighter more colourful version.
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Suggested, I should note, by people who are not Sandwich. ;)
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Is it just me, or are they getting worse? Like, 5 of them on a page at any given time...
And the new image ads were a bit of a surprise.
I think it's just you, I only see one ad, and it's at the very top of every page on this forum.
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Sandwich, The little pop-up things are still appearing. They seem to appear whenever you hover the mouse over the ads.
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Adblock kills them. Annoyed me all of 10 seconds before I un-whitelisted HLP :D (which I'll re-whitelist once the ads are sufficiently non-intrusive)
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Ok, here's the deal. Minimum payout level is $20 for PayPal (vs. check). Unless I've figured out how to tell Clicksor not to do those crap inline text ads, once we hit $20, Clicksor's outta here.
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And here I was wondering why HLP is slower and slower to load pages each day, it's the bloody clicksor ads. When the ads are blocked, pages are loaded in a heartbeat.
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the only thing that bugs me is that the back button doesn't seem to work anymore
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Seen this yet?
Huh. Lookie here: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hostsfaq.htm#Button
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Ooh. So tempting to click. Ooh.
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well, what does the cash flow situation look like
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$6.38. :-/
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from one day?
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Since the beginning of these ads.
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Things aren't looking good for you.
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Unless I've figured out how to tell Clicksor not to do those crap inline text ads.
<script type='text/javascript'>
<!--
//default banner house ad url
clicksor_default_url = '';
clicksor_layer_border_color = '#990000';
clicksor_layer_ad_bg = '#202020';
clicksor_layer_ad_link_color = '#FF0000';
clicksor_layer_ad_text_color = '#FFFFFF';
clicksor_text_link_bg = '';
clicksor_text_link_color = '#000FFF';
clicksor_enable_text_link = true;
clicksor_banner_image_banner = true;
clicksor_banner_border = '#990000';
clicksor_banner_ad_bg = '#202020';
clicksor_banner_link_color = '#FF0000';
clicksor_banner_text_color = '#FFFFFF';
//-->
</script>
<script type='text/javascript' src='http://ads.clicksor.com/showAd.php?pid=52747&sid=71325&adtype=1'></script>
<noscript><a href='http://www.clicksor.com'>Internet advertising[/url]</noscript>
might changing that line to false solve your problem?
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Quite possibly, but that would be altering the source, probably a breach of some agreement, etc. Besides, these ads are so crap that I don't want to stay with them anyway, so it doesn't matter.
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How's money looking now?
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Just be glad there's no ad penalties that deduct money if like it figured out you were trying to remove it. But then again it doesn't have a mind of it's own :lol:
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Halfway there! :p
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Good, these in-line text ads are really getting on my nerves, and I don't feel like installing adblock.
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Good, these in-line text ads are really getting on my nerves, and I don't feel like installing adblock.
You should; I haven't seen a single one of these annoying ads everyone is complaining about, in-line or otherwise. :p
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Though if you think about it, blocking ads on a site you visit often is self-defeating. By blocking the ads you're depriving the site of income, which may cause it to eventually close down.
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Yeah. Grey Wolf has a point. Which is why I don't really use any adblockers or go through the trouble of whitelisting the sites I want to support since in the end, every site I visit somehow deserves the little support I give them via ad impressions. Sure ads can be annoying and waste of bandwidth, but ads can be the only source of income for some websites in which case blocking their ads does more harm than good.
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Though if you think about it, blocking ads on a site you visit often is self-defeating. By blocking the ads you're depriving the site of income, which may cause it to eventually close down.
Well that's one of my major reasons.
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Only less than $9 to go and clicksor is outta here (according to Sandwich), so we're over halfway done. We are not quite sure yet what will replace Clicksor, but at least we try to replace it with something less annoying but yet with something that will provide enough income.
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Well, I just found clicksor ads on the inside of the posts, on specific words, having nothing at all to do with the post's content. Awesome.
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Somehow, I have the feeling I should be incorperating in Delaware...
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6223/untitled3qj.jpg
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My gawd, they're horrid. Golly gee-whiz, I wish we were at $20 already. Then we'd be able to get rid of Clicksor. Wouldn't that be nice? Yes, it would.... *ahem*
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So what will you replace them with?
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Not sure yet.
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Yahoo? MSN is supposed to be coming out with some ad service aren't they?
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Lol :lol:
That's nice, incorporating in delaware :lol: That one kicks the ****. For me it's been an advertisement at the top of the page that's black and in big white letters says default, and nothing else. And not it's shifted to stop spam (stoptheft.com you might be interested) OR Botox dermatologists (botoxcosmetic.com i know you guys don't like those forhead wrinkles). Don't forget premier AD.com affiliate marketing. I'm not joking, these advertisements are loading for me on every single page of the forums. And i'm not joking, these advertisements keep reloading with new ones every 40 seconds on every singe page of the forums. Makes using the forward and back browser buttons a *****. They ****ing reload the advertisement bars with a new one every 40 seconds :lol:
These things are retarded :lol:
I know it's at like 9$ or so right now, but i can't wait to have all that speed back, so it doesn't take a minute or two on dsl to load a one post thread :lol:
Liking fs2 this much...it's like now we're forsaken :lol:
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Actually, we're at $15 now! Soon, my pretties.... soooon.....
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Why is it that we have to get to twenty dollars again?
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Because thats a good portion of the monthly cost?
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Because that's the minimum amount before they pay up.
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Alrighty, so, in case you haven't noticed, we're running ThinkGeek banners! I like them already - they don't seem to slow the forum down like Clicksor did. Anyway, from what I understand, these aren't PPC (pay-per-click) or PPV (pay-per-view) banners, but a commission-based system. So when you visit ThinkGeek through clicking on the banner and actually buy a product, we get a percentage. So, that's the story for now. We'll see how it goes - I truly have no idea how much income this is going to bring in, but I like ThinkGeek so much anyway, I'd run their ads for free (Shhhh!! Don't tell them I said that!). :p
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I'm tempted by that USB Lava-lamp, that's just so 70's :D
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Oh, that universal on-off t.v. remote looks like loads of fun. :drevil:
Hmmmm. I like this one.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/61b7/
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I'ld buy from ThinkGeek if thier postage wasn't at WTF prices.
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http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/blankets/574a/
ASCII FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'll go binary
http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/blankets/574a/action/21087fd/ (http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/blankets/574a/action/21087fd/)
Next thing we know, there's a dildo that comes with the chick that makes her scream in ascii or binary, depending on what you have the switch set at before she uses.
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I see you got rid of the blue banner things, much nicer.
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Thanks :)
On that note (that note being "someone noticed"..) I'm playing around with the forum graphics a bit myself. Nothing drastic as I don't really know what goes where yet. But if anyone has any suggestions I'd quite like to hear them... they should however be reasonable and in keeping with the HLP site theme. I'm not changing everything pink because you say so and such suggestions may/will be ignored ;)
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Yeah, the blue just didn't go with the maroon it clashed like my teacher's plads. I think this was mentioned somwhere, but I can't find it now: are the links to the HLP homepage and Wiki ever going to return to the forums?
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:bump:
Sorry if I shouldn't have been a gravedigger
Thanks to whoever added the links back again, no more people asking where the wiki is (I hope).