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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Flaser on May 18, 2006, 06:16:15 pm

Title: A wakeup call
Post by: Flaser on May 18, 2006, 06:16:15 pm
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They say if you drop a frog in a pot of boiling water, it will, of course, frantically try to scramble out. But if you place it gently in a pot of tepid water and turn the heat on low, it will float there quite complacently. As you turn up the heat, the frog will sink into a tranquil stupor and before long, with a smile on its face, it will unresistingly allow itself to be boiled to death. The security industry is much like that frog; completely and uncontrollably in disarray - yet we tolerate it since we are used to it.

It's boiling hot now....but will we notice?
http://www.securityabsurdity.com/failure.php

More on this:
http://www.hackdot.org/
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: aldo_14 on May 19, 2006, 02:46:20 am
Oh, the poor frog.
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: IPAndrews on May 19, 2006, 02:50:25 am
Next time on Flaser's fine dining - how to cook a dog.
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: Black Wolf on May 19, 2006, 04:52:17 am
The frog thing isn't true BTW - the Frog's an Ectotherm - it's bloody good at determining external temperature. It climbs out of slow heated water the same as regular boilign water.
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: Flaser on May 19, 2006, 07:11:28 am
Slackers. Read the darn thing...
Anyway here's the synopses:

....The security industry is much like that frog; completely and uncontrollably in disarray - yet we tolerate it since we are used to it.

It is time to admit what many security professionals already know: We, as security professionals, are drastically failing ourselves, our community, and the people we are meant to protect. Too many of our security layers of defense are broken. Security professionals are enjoying a surge in business and growing salaries and that is why we tolerate the dismal situation we are facing. Yet it is our mandate, first and foremost, to protect.

The ramifications of our failure are immense. The success of the Internet and the global economy relies on trust and security. Billions of dollars of ecommerce opportunities are being lost due to inadequate security. A recent survey of U.S. adults revealed that three times the number of respondents believed they were more likely to be victimized in an online attack than a physical crime. A recent Gartner survey indicated that 14% of those who had banked online had stopped because of security concerns, and 30% had altered their usage. People are simply losing trust in the internet.

The security community is not just failing in one specific way - it is failing across multiple categories.

It is being out innovated.

It is losing the digital battle over cyberspace.
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: IPAndrews on May 19, 2006, 07:12:46 am
Slackers. Read the darn thing...

I might have... if it wasn't for the frog quote.  :ick:
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: Flaser on May 19, 2006, 08:21:56 am
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They say if you drop a frog in a pot of boiling water, it will, of course, frantically try to scramble out. But if you place it gently in a pot of tepid water and turn the heat on low, it will float there quite complacently. As you turn up the heat, the frog will sink into a tranquil stupor and before long, with a smile on its face, it will unresistingly allow itself to be boiled to death. The security industry is much like that frog; completely and uncontrollably in disarray - yet we tolerate it since we are used to it.

It's boiling hot now....but will we notice?
http://www.securityabsurdity.com/failure.php

More on this:
http://www.hackdot.org/
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: aldo_14 on May 19, 2006, 08:24:05 am
I sincerely doubt a frog is uncontrollable.  Slippery, maybe, but, I've never had any problem catching them.
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: IPAndrews on May 19, 2006, 08:40:51 am
Another myth then, like slipping on a banana skin. Tried it. Couldn't do it.
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: aldo_14 on May 19, 2006, 08:46:21 am
Another myth then, like slipping on a banana skin. Tried it. Couldn't do it.

Did you try it on a tiled kitchen wearing socks?  Cos I think that'd do it.
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: IPAndrews on May 19, 2006, 08:54:17 am
Tiled kitchen and socks seems to do it even without the banana. In fact I'm betting the banana skin will actually offer you better grip. Certainly if it's wet side down  :yes:
Title: Re: A wakeup call
Post by: Gortef on May 19, 2006, 10:18:24 am
A poor frog is more interesting than our security