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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rictor on May 26, 2006, 06:41:21 pm

Title: Can someone identify...
Post by: Rictor on May 26, 2006, 06:41:21 pm
...which version of Carmina Burana is playing in this video? It doesn't sound like anything too classical, but cool nevertheless. Probably some modern take on it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8842216285861816122
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Ford Prefect on May 26, 2006, 08:34:39 pm
Whoever did that should be castrated with a plastic spoon. I ****ing hate when people do that. It's not even actually "O Fortuna"-- the asshole rewrote the melody.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Mefustae on May 26, 2006, 09:41:39 pm
Whoever did that should be castrated with a plastic spoon. I ****ing hate when people do that. It's not even actually "O Fortuna"-- the asshole rewrote the melody.
QFT. I'd rather listen to Rhinos mating than to excellent music being crappified by the no-talent hack that mixed that track.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Rictor on May 26, 2006, 10:24:14 pm
What are your guys, the Music Gestapo? What's wrong with it? Every take on Carmina Burana I've ever heard sounds the same. It's nice to hear something different every once in a while, and this is good, dynamic stuff. Even us philistines should get to enjoy classical music, and if that means adding a beat track to it, fine by me.

Though my question still stands: does anyone know which version/artist this is?
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Ford Prefect on May 26, 2006, 10:55:30 pm
You're not hearing classical music; you're hearing a few phrases from the first part of Carmina Burana, set to a piece of "music" that Carl Orff did not write. Now, the lyrics to all of Carmina Burana are based on various medieval poems and drinking songs, so anyone is, of course, free to use them for whatever monstrosity they want to throw together, but don't tell me that the piece of music in that video is "O Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi" by Carl Orff, because it's not. He didn't write that thing. This is no different from rewriting a work of literature because it's too complicated. I can't write down "We are the hollow men / the end", and say it's T.S. Eliot. It's not.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 26, 2006, 11:22:41 pm
Whoever did that should be castrated with a plastic spoon. I ****ing hate when people do that. It's not even actually "O Fortuna"-- the asshole rewrote the melody.
QFT. I'd rather listen to Rhinos mating than to excellent music being crappified by the no-talent hack that mixed that track.

Thirded. It wouldn't be so bad with whoever this is having the original idea of using O Fortuna in a video, but this remix just makes me want to do horrible things.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Rictor on May 26, 2006, 11:32:12 pm
Hmm, I always mix up Carmina Burana and Ride of Valkyries. Which is the one by Mozart? They should really have added some bass to it. I mean, it's no Linkin Park, but it's decent as classical music goes.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 26, 2006, 11:34:01 pm
Hmm, I always mix up Carmina Burana and Ride of Valkyries. Which is the one by Mozart?

Neither are. Carmina Burana is by Carl Orff, Ride of the Valkyries by Richard Wagner.



Unless of course, that was sarcasm, in which case I now feel humbly embarrassed.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Ford Prefect on May 26, 2006, 11:35:22 pm
"Ride of the Valkyries" is by Wagner. There is no Mozart involved in this discussion.

EDIT: What he said.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Darius on May 27, 2006, 01:38:50 am
I swear I've heard one of the source tracks in Eric Levy's "Era" album.
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Post by: Ace on May 27, 2006, 05:34:22 am
Hmm, I always mix up Carmina Burana and Ride of Valkyries. Which is the one by Mozart?

I'm about to drop the hammer and dispense some indiscriminate justice!
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: aceofspades on May 29, 2006, 12:45:45 am
Agreed with general consensus: whatever this music is, it is not Orff's O Fortuna, and it doesn't sound like it. And seriously, saying 'it's no Linkin Park, but decent' about O Fortuna makes me want to die. Or, in the better words of Mefustae, listen to Rhinos mating.
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the video is about Chinese patriotism and the music is supposedly derived from a famous classic of Western music, itself written by the heralds of the advance of Western civilization?
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: BlackDove on May 29, 2006, 01:45:28 am
Personally I'm with Rictor (if I'm guessing what he meant correctly, but no harm done if I'm not).

**** classical music.

I'm all for the instruments that are used to perform it, but classical music died the day those Beatle assholes got up in front of a camera and sang one fo their ****ty songs and used their ****ty guitars to do it. Classical music died that day. People should let it rot. There are far better things to listen to these days that use the same instruments, but actually make the music not sound like an 1800 ****fest.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Darius on May 29, 2006, 02:16:28 am
Well, I'm of a less extreme view than BlackDove regarding classical music, but I'm not dismissing the song outright just because of some purity issues. It's like saying William Orbit should be shot for remixing Barber's Adagio for Strings.  :rolleyes: Or FCB for their 1995 remix of O'Fortuna.

It's making no claim to purity, it's just two songs mixed together to form an anthem for hope and inspiration. I think it fits in rather nicely with the video, seeing as it's a Sino/Russian peace exercise.

Rictor: As for what version/artist it is...try looking up Eric Levi, it sounds like something of his work.
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Post by: Nuke on May 29, 2006, 02:20:28 am
i like the therion version of o fortuna better. and russia has better planes too :D
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: aceofspades on May 29, 2006, 02:39:47 am
I'm not saying if it's a modified O Fortuna it's bad. I'm saying that this remix was badly done.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Mefustae on May 29, 2006, 06:46:56 am
It's like saying William Orbit should be shot for remixing Barber's Adagio for Strings.  :rolleyes:
*Loads clip* What's his address? *Chambers round*
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: TrashMan on May 29, 2006, 07:13:29 am
Personally I'm with Rictor (if I'm guessing what he meant correctly, but no harm done if I'm not).

**** classical music.

I'm all for the instruments that are used to perform it, but classical music died the day those Beatle assholes got up in front of a camera and sang one fo their ****ty songs and used their ****ty guitars to do it. Classical music died that day. People should let it rot. There are far better things to listen to these days that use the same instruments, but actually make the music not sound like an 1800 ****fest.

WTF? Better? By whos criteria?
Personal preference is no crieria...

If you are going by something that is actually scientificly mesurable, then the number of instruments, the complexity of the melody and interaction beetween various passuses all go in favor of classical music.

It is infitesimly more uplifting and better then the today crap...like rap.... good God.. you canbe the most untalanted slob with the most hedious, untrained voice and no one would notice...

Classical music is not dead.. it is eternal..
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Prophet on May 29, 2006, 09:41:52 am
I sometimes listen to classical music. The few select pieces that I find to be quite beautiful and calming. Rap music is pretty much the only music that I cannot understand or even bear listening before my ears start to bleed. I'm more of a children of a night waiting for the arockalypse while I pet my destroyer at the chainsaw buffet. :D
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Post by: Flipside on May 29, 2006, 02:39:20 pm
Nothing wrong with classical music. Seriously, some people are starting to sound like the old farts who said Rock'n'Roll wasn't 'real' music back when it was a niche style.

'Classical' Music is still around in a big way, what do people think Film Music is? It's music set to a story, or designed to evoke an ambience. That's what 'Classical' Music is.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Ransom on May 29, 2006, 09:55:32 pm
I mean, it's no Linkin Park, but it's decent as classical music goes.
*bursts into flames*
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: NGTM-1R on May 30, 2006, 02:04:44 am
/me cooks marshmellows.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 30, 2006, 09:17:41 am
/me steals ngtm1r's marshmellows and runs off
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: aceofspades on May 30, 2006, 06:34:43 pm
I mean, it's no Linkin Park, but it's decent as classical music goes.
*bursts into flames*

You conveyed my thoughts perfectly.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: NGTM-1R on May 30, 2006, 09:44:25 pm
/me steals ngtm1r's marshmellows and runs off

/me shrugs and happily eats his Hersheys Chocolate and Graham Crackers; only got the marshmellows because they gave me the rest of the smores stuff too then.
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: Flipside on May 30, 2006, 09:46:53 pm
I always find Potatoes wrapped in Tinfoil work pretty well also :) Nothing like a flame-baked Potato ;)
Title: Re: Can someone identify...
Post by: aceofspades on May 31, 2006, 03:31:51 am
I LOVE SMORES!


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