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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Clave on May 27, 2006, 03:21:43 am
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There is spyware in the advert, please fix it ASAP before more people have to reformat :no: :no: :no:
The file is called: pre.emf
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I am a witness to this file as well. I was just about to make a post, myself. We need to get rid of this POS excuse for sponsorship. Now.
File opens with Image and fax viewer BTW. WMF exploit anyone?
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Yep, it ran all over Icy's PC - spyware everywhere.
I stuck it on the desktop and opened it with Illustrator of all things - but then I'm running a Mac, so felt pretty safe...
It's a blue rectangle... but obviously, there's more going on than that :sigh:
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While I have hard time believing clicksor ads would contain security vulnerability exploits, better be safe than sorry. Clicksor ads have been removed, we should have generated enough income for clicksor to send the first payment by now.
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Thanks, I'll tell the other WS'ers :yes:
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My last spyware scan was last week and it was clean. Unless the boards for Bioware, Bethesda, or Blizzard lead to spy ware (which they haven't in the past) the only place I could have gotten the 23 infections found would be here since nothing else has been downloaded.
Odd that it didn't happen earlier though. However the clicksor ads have been very odd. Some being text, others being flash, others being standard images, etc.
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They were very odd... now they're just very gone. :)
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"H@tkeyH@@k" was the keylogger (installed on the wrong HD so it wasn't active fortunately. Not like they would have gotten anything but a few C&C games and my pissing off the right-wingers on the SS:2845 boards. Maybe a few less votes from Hackers for Bush?) and the other bits of spyware were cookies used to log site visits.
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Cookies are not spyware. I can't stand that definition. :rolleyes:
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Some cookies are spyware though.....
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While there can be malicious cookies, I don't think they fall into the malware category.
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Some cookies are spyware though.....
No, they're not.
Cookies can be bits of arbitrary or useful information that are stored locally as a result of you visiting a website. They don't gather data from your computer. They don't contain any other data than what you send to a site, or what the site sends to you. They can't propagate their data to one another. They don't perform any activity at all and any data therein is only ever sent back to the site it originated from. The only way they can violate your privacy is if you send your private data to a dubious site, or the cookie contains sensitive information which is then harvested by a malicious program.
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Or it tracks all your activity and not only violates your security but your privacy too.....
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Ok then, go download Adware, then go get yourself some fastclick/doubleclick/whateverclick cookies and I garuntee it will nail them for spyware.
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I still have it on my desktop.. it's like a freshwater fish in the sea now: 'OMG! I can't function in this environment'
It shall go to the Trash in due time... :nod:
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Ooh you evil man stop torturing that defenceless little spyware! :hopping:
:p
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i like cookies.
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I still have it on my desktop.. it's like a freshwater fish in the sea now: 'OMG! I can't function in this environment'
Salt hax? :D
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Ok then, go download Adware, then go get yourself some fastclick/doubleclick/whateverclick cookies and I garuntee it will nail them for spyware.
It'll detect them as threats to privacy, yes, because the originating site can track your activities on itself between sessions. Adaware doesn't just pick up malware. It's supposed to detect anything that anyone might like to remove without knowing exactly what the threats are.
So no, cookies are not malware. They're just data.
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It'll detect them as threats to privacy, yes, because the originating site can track your activities on itself between sessions.
Isn't that the definition of what spyware does?
EDIT:
Oh, and about clicksor. Before it was removed, I saw a clicksor ad that said "Looking for something better? Try Wing Commander!"
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I don't think so... spyware implies something that actively spies on you.
Cookies are inert text files - They just sit there holding whatever data was written to them, and can only be read back by the site that created them (With some caveats which I can't be arsed to go into)..
This BBS' SQL database would count as spyware if you use that definition.
The reason most anti-spyware systems call them out is that advertising sites like doubleclick etc. can use them to track where you go - e.g. you goto a website with a Ad Banner in an IFRAME; The IFRAME writes a cookie to your cookie jar.
Later, you goto another site, also with an IFRAME Adbanner - Because that IFRAME holds a web-page from the ad-people's server, it is also allowed to read/write to the cookie, thus allowing it to trail where you have been.
Too many sites use cookies these days, so my current kludge is to disable IFRAMEs, but I can only do this in Opera with the site-hacking JS script it uses. You can probably do it in FF with Greasemonkey 'tho.
I've never seen a legitimate use of IFRAMEs anyway...
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Oh, and about clicksor. Before it was removed, I saw a clicksor ad that said "Looking for something better? Try Wing Commander!"
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,39968.0.html
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Just to clear this up...
Malware and spyware == SOFTWARE. Cookies are not software. They are data.
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Software is just data, till you impliment it.
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Software is executable data.
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You could in theory execute any data with an appropriate interpreter. :D
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LOL
Software is a list of interpretable instructions, a cookie is a collection of data. Theoretically, you could get Malware that transmits confidentials information from those cookies to an outside source, but the cookies on their own are not dangerous.