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Title: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Kosh on May 31, 2006, 09:04:46 pm
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060531-6949.html


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BitTorrent tracker sites have come under heavy assault from the MPAA over the past year or so. One site that has operated with almost total impunity is the Swedish tracker site ThePirateBay.org. Those days may have come to an end, as the site was raided by Swedish law enforcement and has had all of its servers confiscated. Two of the site operators are currently in police custody as charges of breaching copyright law and assisting in the breach of copyright law are being investigated.


I know I have been saying this a lot lately, but I will say it again: :wtf:
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Flipside on May 31, 2006, 09:08:05 pm
Herding Cats.

How much did that whole operation cost, I wonder? And by this time next month, another one will spring up somewhere else and they'll have to do it all over again.

They really do need to think up a better plan of action than this, it's so wastefull :(
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: WeatherOp on May 31, 2006, 09:13:58 pm
Wooot!!!

Ummm, nevermind that statement, a select few know what I'm talking about. 1 down. :drevil:
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Kamikaze on May 31, 2006, 09:16:36 pm
Glad to know there's nothing better for fifty police officers in Sweden to be doing than shutting down perfectly legal torrent sites.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Flipside on May 31, 2006, 09:18:21 pm
Not that it's bad that criminals have been caught WeatherOp, but the problem is that, for every site they down, another 2 are created. I agree that Filesharing is illegal, no problem there, but I don't agree that the RIAA is dealing with it in anything near an efficient manner.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: WeatherOp on May 31, 2006, 09:19:57 pm
Not that it's bad that criminals have been caught WeatherOp, but the problem is that, for every site they down, another 2 are created. I agree that Filesharing is illegal, no problem there, but I don't agree that the RIAA is dealing with it in anything near an efficient manner.

No, I could care less about this site and that site, anyways as I said a select few will know what I'm talking about. 8)
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Kamikaze on May 31, 2006, 09:20:09 pm
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Not that it's bad that criminals have been caught WeatherOp

The Pirate Bay operators were not criminals. Swedish law allows for sharing torrent files because they contain no copyrighted data.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Flipside on May 31, 2006, 09:24:16 pm
I know that the sites do not hold files, or control what is shared on them Kami, but calling themselves 'The Pirate Bay' really was asking for it in the first place ;)

As far as the law is concerned, well, that'll be sorted out by the courts, but this 'No Retreat, No Surrender' attitude by the RIAA is costing an absolute fortune and achieving nothing, they really should be looking at some kind of compromise before they start wasting more money than they are saving the Industry.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: BlackDove on May 31, 2006, 09:35:01 pm
Who cares about Pirate Bay? Dozens of other sites out there. Pirate Bay stood for the public "**** You" To copyright owners, but its search terms were abysmal, which made me never use it.

Don't care if it does or doesn't come back.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: redsniper on May 31, 2006, 10:00:42 pm
Heck, I still miss suprnova. :(
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Turambar on May 31, 2006, 10:32:42 pm
i really did like piratebay's "**** you RIAA" attitude
it was amusing.

i'd click on one of their links to support them, but all those torrent ads are always full of porno or spyware...
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Rictor on May 31, 2006, 11:19:59 pm
(http://www.wulfarchives.com/Nooooo.gif)
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: TrashMan on June 01, 2006, 02:46:33 am
was that a crappy movie or what...

And yeah...bummber.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Flipside on June 01, 2006, 02:53:04 am
We ought to have a competition to put a quote to that....

'I hate Chileeeeeeees!!!!'
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Fury on June 01, 2006, 02:55:51 am
Rictor, that picture is from the Dungeons and Dragons movie, right? :p ****ty movie it was.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: karajorma on June 01, 2006, 02:57:22 am
Wooot!!!

Ummm, nevermind that statement, a select few know what I'm talking about. 1 down. :drevil:

I know exactly what you're on about and although I'm 100% against the RIAA I've got to admit I had exactly the same thought :D
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Flipside on June 01, 2006, 02:59:16 am
You know, during the filming of that movie there was a stunt where an axe was supposed to swing down within inches of the hero. The mechanism went off early and instead, it missed him by millimetres, I tell you what, 2 seconds earlier and I'd have given the FX team an Oscar ;)
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on June 01, 2006, 03:39:54 am
In other news: Hercules cuts off one head of the Hydra, 2 new ones pop up.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Rictor on June 01, 2006, 11:09:33 am
Rictor, that picture is from the Dungeons and Dragons movie, right? :p ****ty movie it was.

Yeah, I just did a Google Image search for "noooooo" and this is what came up. And yes, it was an exceedingly ****ty movie, though it was bad enough that I still have fond memories.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Fineus on June 01, 2006, 11:19:32 am
The girl wizard in it was hot though..
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Ferret on June 01, 2006, 11:36:21 am
This whole TPB stuff is hilarious. The Swedish police are just trying to look like they're doing thier job. They'll look on the servers and find nothing but .torrent files which are totally legal under Swedish law.
At the end of all this TPB can quite easily claim compensation, whoopsee!
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Kosh on June 01, 2006, 05:42:28 pm
They are just desperately trying to appease their American masters.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Rictor on June 01, 2006, 05:47:46 pm
Their page says they'll be back in a day or two. Apparently, they're moving servers to a different country/countries. It's good to know that, even though they would have easily been replaced, they're going to fight the MPAA/RIAA/Man.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Kosh on June 01, 2006, 05:50:45 pm
Their page says they'll be back in a day or two. Apparently, they're moving servers to a different country/countries. It's good to know that, even though they would have easily been replaced, they're going to fight the MPAA/RIAA/Man.

So they decided that having their servers in a country that is an American vassal state isn't such a good idea after all.........
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Flipside on June 01, 2006, 05:50:48 pm
Yeah, I saw that too, apparently, they already had a backup, possibly in another country, already in place. Which is yet more egg on the RIAA's face, since not only will the raid most likely be deemed illegal, but they've basically used the money it cost to raid that as Free Advertising for the Pirate Bay, thanks to the coverage this got.

Like I said, pointless waste of money doing it this way....
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Ferret on June 01, 2006, 06:15:56 pm
Free Advertising for the Pirate Bay, thanks to the coverage this got.
This is exactly the same thing that happened back in the Napster days, file sharing was pretty much unknown to the general public back then, it got smashed and bam, now everyone is doing it. Whoops.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Rictor on June 01, 2006, 06:33:00 pm
It's also great that PirateBay will be entitled to damages is a Swedish court finds that the siezure was illegal, which may well happen. How awesome would that be, if the MPAA/RIAA had to pay PirateBay a settlement in the end.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: FireCrack on June 01, 2006, 08:15:53 pm
pwnt
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Ferret on June 01, 2006, 09:07:31 pm
They just keep shooting themselves in the foot again and again.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Mefustae on June 01, 2006, 11:18:03 pm
They just keep shooting themselves in the foot again and again.
I would have thought that at this point they wouldn't have any feet left. They must be well into their shins by now. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Flipside on June 02, 2006, 09:26:59 pm
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3970&date=20060602&PHPSESSID=7a3ecc2cac70aad4a22f3a3f2ad2ec0f

And theres the first backlash from the online community. You don't solve these problems by pissing off a massive Internet community, you do it by taking into account that they are a massive Internet community.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Windrunner on June 03, 2006, 05:28:12 am
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3970&date=20060602&PHPSESSID=7a3ecc2cac70aad4a22f3a3f2ad2ec0f

And theres the first backlash from the online community. You don't solve these problems by pissing off a massive Internet community, you do it by taking into account that they are a massive Internet community.

this is top news here in sweden. they are apperantly also trying to take down homepage of the swedish military. and the our minister of justice is beeing questioned beacuse he is suspected on influencing the police to prioritize on taking down the pirate bay.

but it looks like the pirate bay is up and runing again: thepiratebay.org
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Rictor on June 03, 2006, 09:07:13 am
Awesome. Look at their logo.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Kosh on June 03, 2006, 09:35:17 am
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and the our minister of justice is beeing questioned beacuse he is suspected on influencing the police to prioritize on taking down the pirate bay.

Why would he do that?
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Flipside on June 03, 2006, 01:54:45 pm
Probably because he was being leant on by the RIAA.

This could actually have been one of the biggest political mistakes in Europe since the Poll Tax to be honet, a government literally tripping over it's own feet to please the RIAA may well have damaged itself massively in the political arena.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Windrunner on June 03, 2006, 06:29:37 pm
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and the our minister of justice is beeing questioned beacuse he is suspected on influencing the police to prioritize on taking down the pirate bay.

Why would he do that?

Beacue its illegal here in sweden for an minister to try and influence  for example the police to prioritize individual cases such as this one with pirate bay.
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Rictor on June 05, 2006, 01:34:34 am
Check out what TPB crew posted on the website

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Just some stats...

... here are some reasons why TPB is down sometimes - and how long it usually takes to fix:

Tiamo gets *very* drunk and then something crashes: 4 days

Anakata gets a really bad cold and noone is around: 7 days

The US and Swedish gov. forces the police to steal our servers: 3 days

.. yawn.

Posted Today 01:21 by tpb
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay raided?
Post by: Ferret on June 05, 2006, 09:10:50 am
Check out what TPB crew posted on the website

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Just some stats...

... here are some reasons why TPB is down sometimes - and how long it usually takes to fix:

Tiamo gets *very* drunk and then something crashes: 4 days

Anakata gets a really bad cold and noone is around: 7 days

The US and Swedish gov. forces the police to steal our servers: 3 days

.. yawn.

Posted Today 01:21 by tpb
Brilliant. It's a shame the old torrents before the seize no longer work though. :(