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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: WeatherOp on May 31, 2006, 09:12:44 pm
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152133.html (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152133.html)
Hmmm, very interesting. Do they really think they can phase out the PC?
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Nope, no upgradeability to a PS3, or, if there is, almost certainly without the flexibility that my PC offers. The chances are that, eventually, PC's and Consoles will merge, but the PS3 ain't it.
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Okay, so they've admitted several times that the PS3 is in fact a computer, not a console. Wouldn't that mean Sony has already lost the console race, in that they're not putting out a console this gen, but rather a PC? :rolleyes:
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Consoles are computers. So are abacuses. He's just doing anything he can to justify the price. Making gas prices seem reasonable and all.
Heh. Reminds me of that "**** pants, we're sony" Penny arcade
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Wasn't that a Ctrl-Alt-Del?
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I'm pretty sure it was Penny Arcade. It's the only webcomic I frequent.
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ps3 is dead, i knew this once we all got ahold of ps3 and 360 hardware specs. the 360 just seems to be the more powerfull machine of the 2. the ps3 architecture will be just too exotic to code for cheaply, and ths games will be way too expensive. if that alone didnt kill it, then marketing will. sony is very good at screwing things up, and i think there about to screw up big time on the ps3.
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152133.html (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152133.html)
Hmmm, very interesting. Do they really think they can phase out the PC?
can a PS3 run photoshop? Can it run an internet browser? Can it surf a Forum?.. no?.. well then, bull**** to that.
phasing out the PC is a lofty goal indeed, but a fruitless one to say the least.
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ps3 is dead, i knew this once we all got ahold of ps3 and 360 hardware specs. the 360 just seems to be the more powerfull machine of the 2. the ps3 architecture will be just too exotic to code for cheaply, and ths games will be way too expensive. if that alone didnt kill it, then marketing will. sony is very good at screwing things up, and i think there about to screw up big time on the ps3.
So, what you're essentially saying, is that Sony's gonna pull an Atari.
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ps3 is dead, i knew this once we all got ahold of ps3 and 360 hardware specs. the 360 just seems to be the more powerfull machine of the 2. the ps3 architecture will be just too exotic to code for cheaply, and ths games will be way too expensive. if that alone didnt kill it, then marketing will. sony is very good at screwing things up, and i think there about to screw up big time on the ps3.
So, what you're essentially saying, is that Sony's gonna pull an Atari.
pretty much.
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So, what you're essentially saying, is that Sony's gonna pull an Atari.
nah, the PS3 looks like a toaster, not a toilet :p
(http://www.silicium.org/images/catalog/consoles/atari/jaguar.jpg)
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152133.html (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152133.html)
Hmmm, very interesting. Do they really think they can phase out the PC?
can a PS3 run photoshop? Can it run an internet browser? Can it surf a Forum?.. no?.. well then, bull**** to that.
phasing out the PC is a lofty goal indeed, but a fruitless one to say the least.
Wii can do B and C (built in Opera) :)
And theoretically, I think the PS3 could; it does have an (Linux) OS, after all, it'd just need a market. Same probably applies to the 360.
Um, the PS3 itself won't supercede the Pc because it's actually more expensive than a base level Pc with a DVd drive, TV-out, etc anyways. Although that is the endgame for these companies, it seems; the whole Xbox thing is a way for MS to work on getting PC-type devices - windows platforms in effect - into 'the home', after all.
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True, but I see it being far more of a blending than a phasing out, really, the only way a console can replace the PC is to become a PC in every way except name. I do not, for example, regardless of performance, see companies buying in banks of PS3's as Servers, or even as Office terminals. It would have to be marketted as a kind of PC to get any look into the Busniess Market whatsoever, since most computers made their way into the home when people started needing them to do work at home, until Consoles can fill that particular niche, they won't replace PC's.
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I gotta throw this one in, I'm browsing this forum right now on my PSP via a hotspot while im havin a smoke by tower bridge.
Text entries a biatch, but apart from that.
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A PSP? Oh, you poor soul.
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Hehehe, it's possible to post on the board with a phone, but, as an example, why would I want to buy a console for rendering up movies in Lightwave, it's slow, doesn't use any real graphical power, but is incredibly CPU and drive intensive, I'd either have to expect to not use the concole for long periods of time, or buy 2 consoles. I'd rather do what I do now, which is use my cheap server 1700XP as a background Renderer, and I can still play games and do other stuff on the main computer :)
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WTH? PSP is ok for a morning commute in london, It smaxors the heck out of the DS....
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WTH? PSP is ok for a morning commute in london, It smaxors the heck out of the DS....
Well, don't you, y'know, want games and stuff for a handheld?
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I got Ghost in the shell-V cool, splinter cell, Worms, EA Boxing game, Megaman Reloaded (kiddy but level editor justifies it) Coded arms, GTA Liberty city stories, and homebrewed Zsnes, so i got 80 snes games as well as Preator, Aliens and Kungfu hussle, thought to be honest i got Aliens on my V635 as well.
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homebrewed Zsnes, so i got 80 snes games as well as Preator, Aliens and Kungfu hussle, thought to be honest i got Aliens on my V635 as well.
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Ah, the one and only good use for the PSP (in my reckoning). Me, I'm bagging a DS Lite on release day, provided Play don't run out of stock.
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The psp isnt bad at all i paid £160 for Giga pack from <legal reasons> "non mainstream"</legal reasons> sources and i for not one second have thought, "Meh why'd i bother?"
ALl in all its not a bad little console, my only regret is i'll probably never finish FF Tactics now.... (remembers his jet black GBA-SP fondly.........)
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ps3 is dead, i knew this once we all got ahold of ps3 and 360 hardware specs. the 360 just seems to be the more powerfull machine of the 2. the ps3 architecture will be just too exotic to code for cheaply, and ths games will be way too expensive. if that alone didnt kill it, then marketing will. sony is very good at screwing things up, and i think there about to screw up big time on the ps3.
It's not just the specs that will kill the PS3, it is the absurd price tag.
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Speakin of which, The "Revolution" (i refuse to call it by a urine-esque name) Is only a hundred and fifty notes in the uk, i cant wait for pre-ordering oppertunity.
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ptsch saying consoles and PC's are going to merge is like saying motorbikes and mobile homes are going to merge - they are in different leagues! Different audience, different flexibilty, different costs. :doubt:
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Motorbikes aren't that bad....
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Speakin of which, The "Revolution" (i refuse to call it by a urine-esque name) Is only a hundred and fifty notes in the uk, i cant wait for pre-ordering oppertunity.
There's a rumour - rather tenuous - it could be even less, after a few Japanese sites priced it at the equivalent of £85 (18,000 yen IIRC) before pulling the listings.
ptsch saying consoles and PC's are going to merge is like saying motorbikes and mobile homes are going to merge - they are in different leagues! Different audience, different flexibilty, different costs. :doubt:
To be fair, that's not what - IMO - he said. He was referring to the whole Live anywhere concept, which is really a sort of multimedia/internet platform rather than general purpose (i.e. as in word processing, graphics apps, etc).
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The consoles started making the bridge between gameboy era( solely a gaming platfom) and a pc/net/media platform IMO, with the <unknown failure>DREAMCAST</unknown failure>, it was the first console with a modem right? or if you want to get technical the mega cd (cos it played music cds :p)
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the <unknown failure>DREAMCAST</unknown failure>, it was the first console with a modem right?
Meganet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Meganet)
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WOW!! I've never heard of this, and a new sonic game too!!
Ferret, you just ade a 24 year old ex soldier cry because of this joyous fact, A new soinc game Muahahah :( :(
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Sonic Eraser is hardly in the least bit special or that interesting really.
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ptsch saying consoles and PC's are going to merge is like saying motorbikes and mobile homes are going to merge - they are in different leagues! Different audience, different flexibilty, different costs. :doubt:
I'd certainly agree in certain enviroments, but for the home where Sony is aiming, I can see the family Media Centre/Games Console/Workstation and Internet access all rolling into one. However, the only way consoles could achieve that is by becoming compaible with PC/Mac Products (probably via USB), such as Printers, and Fax machines etc if that is that case, are they not in reality turning into PCs?
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"We believe that the PS3 will be the place where our users play games, watch films, browse the Web, and use other [home] computer functions," said Harrison. "The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."
Sounds an awful lot like a PC to me
the day it tries to phase out PCs will be the day it becomes a PC
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consoles are just special perpouse computers, like an industrial computer or even a server. it is merely optimised to run games and omits any unnessicary hardware (like a keyboard and mouse and sometimes hard drive). but seeing as games require quite abit of power, theres no reason why consoles cant be used for lesser applications. its nice that the ps3 actually has an os (which would make it the first console with an os factory installed), but using that as an excuse to jack the price is bogus, when you can get a 360 for a few hundred less. because the os is linux, it would have the binifit of being able to run homebrew games, maybe even the scp. still the price is bogus, and unless they can get it down, there ****ed. what i think there trying to do is get away from the old buisness model commonly used by consoles (loose money on the console hardware but make the money from game licensing) and instead make money on the hardware while make it less expensive or even free for developers and thus increase the number of available games which in turn boosts hardware sales. still its going out on a limb and i dont think there gonna succseed no matter what their plan is. i wouldnt be suprised if sony gets bought out any time in the next 10 years. they seem to be putting to much faith in anti-microsoftism, and are trying to seriously jack their customer base who refuse to buy an ms product.
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"The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."
This phrase sounds retarted, or maybe is just me:
The PlayStation 3 = computer, considering consoles and PC as microcomputers (not IBM compatible), that means is = PC....
"The PlayStation 3 is a PC. We do not need the PC."
Sony seems to be trying to travel back in time, are they trying to become some kind of Commodore era, after that consoles where mostly for games, but since a few years ago they have started to become hybrids, I can't really recall exactly the first to do this, but I think it was the GP (GamePark).
Does that mean that Sony is now trying to conquer the world, I expect something like that from Microsoft...
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"The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."
This phrase sounds retarted, or maybe is just me:
The PlayStation 3 = computer, considering consoles and PC as microcomputers (not IBM compatible), that means is = PC....
Computer is technically anything that performs arithmetic operations and calculations. A PC tends to be more defined by applications, although the 2 are more or less synonymous.
"The PlayStation 3 is a PC. We do not need the PC."
Sony seems to be trying to travel back in time, are they trying to become some kind of Commodore era, after that consoles where mostly for games, but since a few years ago they have started to become hybrids, I can't really recall exactly the first to do this, but I think it was the GP (GamePark).
Does that mean that Sony is now trying to conquer the world, I expect something like that from Microsoft...
Trying to become a 'media center', the same as MS is trying with Windows Media Pullaver and the 360.
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it would have the binifit of being able to run homebrew games, maybe even the scp.
You wish, Sony have gone far out of thier way to ensure you cannot run any such software on your PSP, I doubt the PS3 will be any different. You know what they say about leapords and spots.
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As they say in Jurassic park,
"Life finds a way"
Who'd have thought one day FS2 would be HTL, Shinemapped blah blah etc..
I'm sure someone will figure out how to pimpify the PS3, What derivitive OS is it going to use?
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i really dont care what they let us do with the ps3, im still not buying one :D