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Title: Weight of mice
Post by: Fury on June 01, 2006, 09:44:02 am
Today my wrist was screaming to me that the mouse I use for gaming is too heavy. For my gaming computer I use Logitech MX500, for my other computer I use MX310. I hadn't realized it before but the MX310 is much more comfortable to use because it is lighter, easier for my wrist. ****, and it took me two years to notice that the mouse was too heavy. :doubt: Let this serve as a warning to you, check your mouse's weight and if your wrist is truly comfortable with the weight. I weighed both MX310 and MX500, MX310 is close to 100g while MX500 is about 120-130g, or so the balance claimed.

Anyone know good lightweight gaming mouses? Meanwhile I'll stick with MX310. :)
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: aldo_14 on June 01, 2006, 09:44:54 am
I was thinking of the white furry variety, myself.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 01, 2006, 09:46:00 am
I'm happy with my standard Optical dell i nicked from work.
Any mouse is good as long as H&S are observed.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Ghostavo on June 01, 2006, 10:17:49 am
My mouse weights a bit below 105g according to the company's website.

http://www.a4tech.com/en/product2.asp?CID=102&SCID=103&MNO=X-718

2000dpi FTW!  :nervous:
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Kosh on June 01, 2006, 11:12:47 am
I'm not sure how much my 5+ year old M$ optical USB mouse weighs. I have used other mice sometimes, but personally I can't tell the difference.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: CP5670 on June 01, 2006, 11:31:40 am
The G5's weight is adjustable and people say it's extremely light at the minimum setting (although I hate how they dropped two buttons, which is why I didn't buy it).

I have an MX518 and an MX510 and find them both light enough for my usage (106g and 122g). I generally have the sensitivity turned up close to the max at all times, so I only need to rotate my wrist and almost never actually move it.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Fury on June 01, 2006, 11:56:22 am
I wonder how many grams the G5 is at minimum.

Is MX518 the 106g one? And yes, I prefer rotating my wrist instead of moving it, which is why my MX500 has been too heavy on it.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Mars on June 01, 2006, 02:08:36 pm
Almost any cordless optical mouse moves easier then a corded, balled cousin.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Ghostavo on June 01, 2006, 02:15:40 pm
Quote from: Fury on June 01, 2006, 11:56:22 am
I wonder how many grams the G5 is at minimum.

Is MX518 the 106g one? And yes, I prefer rotating my wrist instead of moving it, which is why my MX500 has been too heavy on it.

Remember that weight is not everything, you must also factor the distance you must move your your hand/rotate your wrist with the distance covered on the screen. :) A few gs may be compensated by moving your hand/rotating your wrist a few mms less. :p
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Mars on June 01, 2006, 02:18:22 pm
Yeah, I have my mouse sensitivity all the way up, so my wrist doesn't get tired unless I use my computer all day (literally).
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Nuke on June 01, 2006, 02:35:05 pm
bah, youre all weak, i want a mouse carved from a solid block of steel :D
seriously, when youre hands do real work, operating a mouse is painless (dispite the fact that i ****ed up my clicky finger at work).
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Mars on June 01, 2006, 02:42:06 pm
I do real work, as a matter of fact, do you know how hard it is to use a mouse on max sensitivity when you just helped somone move (as in, carrying 50lb boxes up and down stairs)
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Nuke on June 01, 2006, 02:54:20 pm
only 50 lbs? have you ever carried a 27" tv up a ladder (a regular thing for me when i worked at a pawn shop)? thats work :D
installing new windows (real ones, not ms crap, big 4ftx3ft double pane ones that probibly are 60 lbs, and you got to hold it there in perfect alignment while the other guy hammers shims into the frame to make it stay)? thats work :D
ever dug an irrigation ditch with a pickaxe in pooring hypothermic rain? thats work :D
ever had sex with my first **** buddy? thats work! :D
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Mars on June 01, 2006, 02:58:54 pm
Can't say I have. I can bench twice my weight (240lb) I'm not exactly huge.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Nuke on June 01, 2006, 03:04:32 pm
i dont bench, im usually to tired (from working)
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: achtung on June 01, 2006, 03:53:07 pm
Can't believe the weight of a mouse would gather complaints.  Get some excercise! :p

Don't need to bench or even go to a gym.

Get down on the floor and do some good ol' push ups, sit-ups, and if you can find a place, do some chin-ups.  That should keep anyone at least moderatly fit.

Of course if your like me, you keep enough work to do around the home to stay in shape.  Although I still work out, in case I encounter an off day.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: CP5670 on June 01, 2006, 10:59:52 pm
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I wonder how many grams the G5 is at minimum.

Is MX518 the 106g one? And yes, I prefer rotating my wrist instead of moving it, which is why my MX500 has been too heavy on it.

Yeah, the 518 is the lighter one. I have the sensitivity adjusted so that I can move the pointer from one corner of the desktop to another with about a 3/4" mouse movement, so I don't need to turn my wrist a whole lot.

Logitech is also coming out with a G3 that appears to have the same tracking hardware as the G5 but is smaller and may be even lighter.

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Almost any cordless optical mouse moves easier then a corded, balled cousin.

Actually, wireless mice in general tend to be fairly heavy due to their battery.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: IceFire on June 01, 2006, 11:30:21 pm
(http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/7890.jpg)
G5 Laser mouse....adjustable weight system.  Great mouse!
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Turnsky on June 01, 2006, 11:36:47 pm
Quote from: IceFire on June 01, 2006, 11:30:21 pm
(http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/7890.jpg)
G5 Laser mouse....adjustable weight system.  Great mouse!

yeah, i hear they're nice, i've got the logitech G7 cordless, no adjustable wieghts, but nice and light all the same.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Kosh on June 01, 2006, 11:40:36 pm
I still think it is interesting that some people think their computer mouse is too heavy. I think Fury need's some excersise. :p
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Fury on June 02, 2006, 12:16:25 am
Ever thought that maybe there are more than one way to move the mouse? It can be moved by using your fingertips, rotating your wrist or moving your hand. I prefer rotating my wrist with fingertips assisting but I do not move my hand. For this movement style MX500 is too heavy while MX310 is perfect, the difference is maybe 20 grams but it is certainly enough to make a huge difference on your wrist. That and I use computers at work and at home, easily 12 hours a day. After 8 hours at work, using a heavier MX500 certainly is too heavy.

Anyways, the recently announced (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/news/US/EN,contentid=12019,crid=34) Logitech G3 (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=11769) and G11 (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2166,CONTENTID=11868) sure looks like these will be my next gaming mouse and keyboard.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Eternal One on June 02, 2006, 12:58:54 am
I was for a long time MX510 user, and while I loved it I realized that it didn't perfectly fit my hand. Logitech mouses in overall tend to be not agile enough,  and since I'm playing RTCW/ET in competitive level and prefer light mouses due to being wrist aimer I decided to try out Razer's Diamondback due to friend's recommendations. It's way better than MX510 was for me, for both working and especially for gaming. I'm not saying that Logitech's mouses are bad, they're great, but if you want to do gaming there are better alternatives.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Goober5000 on June 02, 2006, 01:14:50 am
FATMOUSE. (http://www.fatmouse.org)

(http://www.labradorice.com/fatmouse/FATMOUSE_files/fatmouse.jpg)

FATMOUSE OUTWEIGHS ALL OTHER PRETENDERS TO HIS TITLE.  IT IS NOT FOR YOU TO WEIGH COMPUTERMOUSE.  IT IS FOR YOU TO FEED FATMOUSE.

FATMOUSE DOES NOT CARE FOR YOUR STUPID QUESTIONS AND IRRELEVANT ARGUMENTS.  FATMOUSE CARES ONLY FOR YOUR CALORIES.

ALL NEWBIES MUST GIVE THEIR LUNCH TO CARL.  CARL MUST GIVE ALL LUNCHES TO FATMOUSE.

FATMOUSE HAS NO PATIENCE BUT MUCH HUNGER.

FATMOUSE MUST EAT.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: aldo_14 on June 02, 2006, 03:05:57 am
Cheese?
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Ghostavo on June 02, 2006, 03:15:46 am
CHEESE PANTS!!!  :nervous:

*wonders who will understand*
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Sandwich on June 02, 2006, 04:49:30 am
Just don't get a cordless mouse, whatever you do. Batteries push the weight up beyond the MX500 from the get-go.
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 02, 2006, 04:59:21 am
Quote from: Ghostavo on June 02, 2006, 03:15:46 am
CHEESE PANTS!!!  :nervous:

*wonders who will understand*
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The Ostrich gets laid at midnight,
Silent Badger over and out..
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Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Nuke on June 02, 2006, 03:52:02 pm
Quote from: Sandwich on June 02, 2006, 04:49:30 am
Just don't get a cordless mouse, whatever you do. Batteries push the weight up beyond the MX500 from the get-go.

i wouldnt say that, once your liberated from the wire, you just cant go back, ever. to hell with the wheight :D
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Descenterace on June 03, 2006, 09:57:09 am
So what's the weight of the MX1000?

TBH, if you're complaining about the weight of your mouse, you should probably use it less...
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Fury on June 09, 2006, 07:35:18 am
Quote from: Eternal One on June 02, 2006, 12:58:54 am
I was for a long time MX510 user, and while I loved it I realized that it didn't perfectly fit my hand. Logitech mouses in overall tend to be not agile enough,  and since I'm playing RTCW/ET in competitive level and prefer light mouses due to being wrist aimer I decided to try out Razer's Diamondback due to friend's recommendations. It's way better than MX510 was for me, for both working and especially for gaming. I'm not saying that Logitech's mouses are bad, they're great, but if you want to do gaming there are better alternatives.
I received my Razer Copperhead earlier today, I have only used it for a short while now but I am quite impressed with it. First of it fits into my palm very nicely, much better than any Logitech I have used. Positioning of all buttons is much better than in MX500 or MX310. And even though I'm just getting hang of using this new mouse, on-the-fly sensitivity and DPI switching is awesome. And this mouse is light, only 90g so it is even lighter than MX310. Sweetness. :)
Title: Re: Weight of mice
Post by: Turnsky on June 10, 2006, 01:45:35 am
Quote from: Sandwich on June 02, 2006, 04:49:30 am
Just don't get a cordless mouse, whatever you do. Batteries push the weight up beyond the MX500 from the get-go.

G7's have a Lithium-ion battery in 'em, they're smaller than the batteries in most modern mobile phones.