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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Setekh on June 12, 2006, 03:45:04 am
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It's been Winter a couple of weeks over here now, and flu season has come right along with it. I'm currently on the recovery from a pretty serious viral infection, and it made me think, what is everyone's standard procedure as soon as they start getting sick? You know, after you start getting that little sore throat, or perhaps you've developed a nasty cough, or maybe your nose is running (a sewage plant, not a race). What steps do you go through?
I tend to step up with the vitamin C (in fresh fruit form if possible, unless I've already started coughing in which case oranges etc. will make me cough more) - so I make lemon drinks or take tablets if I have to. Immediately try to avoid time outdoors and strenuous activity, particularly if it's cold out. If things get better from there, good, but if they don't: head over to the doctor, take whatever he prescribes me, and then stay home and weather the storm.
I figure everyone must be slightly different. A good friend of mine, for instance, makes a note to never take prescription medicine. Just doesn't believe in it. So, anyone with very different routines? Or no routine? Or is anyone sick right now? :p
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I immediately start strenuous activity.
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What type of strenuous activity? :p
Also, Aldo - what on earth was that? You replied 50 seconds after I posted? You remind me of... ummm... me, a bit...
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I whinge about how terrible I feel until someone shows me some sympathy. ;)
Seriously though, I tend to find sweating it out is the best bet. You might want to try Tea-Tree oil in Boiling water and inhaling the steam, that works wonders :)
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Sweat it out, go for a jog, Hit the gym, or sexual intercourse whilest sneezing horribly over the female in question. (Girls, if your ever sniffly, i reccomend sexual intercourse with a female also ;7)
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Seriously though, I tend to find sweating it out is the best bet. You might want to try Tea-Tree oil in Boiling water and inhaling the steam, that works wonders :)
Yeah, I have a friend who literally tries to induce (or if not induce, simulate) fever. It was a pretty hot day at church and I saw her walk past wearing three or four jumpers on, gloves on her hands. She just said she was sick and left it at that. And she swears by it.
Yeah Dekker, I wonder if that constant horrible sneezing is a bit of a turn-off? I mean, surely it can't be all that good if her wonderful experience is cut short by a significant mass of snot splattering across her entire face? Don't answer that question. :p
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What type of strenuous activity? :p
Cycling.
Also, Aldo - what on earth was that? You replied 50 seconds after I posted? You remind me of... ummm... me, a bit...
It's 9.50 and I'm at work. Go figure. :D
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Thats the thing with HLP, you think, right,....Just one more post then i'll hit that interim account and get it out of the way, Then you click that annoying little "show new posts" link, and you HAVE to reply...
wonder if that constant horrible sneezing is a bit of a turn-off? I mean, surely it can't be all that good if her wonderful experience is cut short by a significant mass of snot splattering across her entire face?
Actually.............. ;7
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Pop a Tylenol to get rid of the fever, then get right back to work.
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I dont like anti sniffle drugs, they tend to hide remove the symptoms not the cause in my experience, i heal quicker through excercise rather than bedrest..
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Same here, I tend to avoid taking pills unless absolutely vital. Even headache tablets. I have this fear that the one time I really need them, I'm going to have developed a tolerance to them....
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I just go get some medicine. Medicines in this country are incredibly effective, especially the traditional stuff.
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We have all the effective drugs you'd need in London, (drugs for health, and the social kind) I just belive that rather than have the symptoms "masked" I prefer to feel myself recover in "real time" anyone else understand?
(and why the heck am i using animation references??)
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Chinese Medicine is great, it always annoys me when NHS professors say there's no proof it work, as if people getting better wasn't proof....In the mind or not, it certainly works.
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Chinese Medicine is great, it always annoys me when NHS professors say there's no proof it work, as if people getting better wasn't proof....In the mind or not, it certainly works.
Hmm. The problem is when you get (for example) people suffering from cancer being charged extortionate amounts by homeopaths, and dying in absolute agony because said people tell them to stop taking their normal medication. The only actual difference I can see between homeopathy and actual medicine is that the latter is tested, and the former isn't. That's not to say homeopathy can't work, or doesn't have benefits like reducing presecription rates, but I can fully see the problem in spending NHS money on what could very easily just be a placebo effect - and maybe even a short term one.
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Actually, most of the time, I just stick my head in cold water instead of taking Tylenol. It's surprisingly effective.
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Actually, most of the time, I just stick my head in cold water instead of taking Tylenol. It's surprisingly effective.
I'll help hold it down, if you want. It's not any inconvenience :)
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Yep, that attitude even matches your personal text. :p
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Hmm. The problem is when you get (for example) people suffering from cancer being charged extortionate amounts by homeopaths, and dying in absolute agony because said people tell them to stop taking their normal medication. The only actual difference I can see between homeopathy and actual medicine is that the latter is tested, and the former isn't. That's not to say homeopathy can't work, or doesn't have benefits like reducing presecription rates, but I can fully see the problem in spending NHS money on what could very easily just be a placebo effect - and maybe even a short term one.
Indeed, serious diseases are an area of contention I can understand, but certainly in the realm of muscle problems and other minor ailments, I'd rather recieve Homeopathic treatment than take anti-inflammatories or the like (not that I can, the stuff makes me violently ill anyway).
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Actually a few beers always makes me feel better, Be it a broken nose from playing Rugby, Flu, or even recovering form surgery on my knee.
I always lose my sniffles after six pints, my nose stopped hurting after about three if i remember, and the knee was fine until my hangover wore off.
(Three seperate nights out mind you ...)
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I dont like anti sniffle drugs, they tend to hide remove the symptoms not the cause in my experience, i heal quicker through excercise rather than bedrest..
It's my understanding that that's exactly what those 'cold-and-flu' drugs aim to do - alleviate symptoms. My pharmacist friend tells me that they haven't found any significant method for fighting viral infections - the body is the only thing that seems capable of mounting a reasonable defence. Good thing too I suppose.
Homeopaths and natural alternatives, I have a great deal of (mostly unfounded) skepticism about those. My mum did have a go at a few of those methods after being diagnosed with her lung cancer, but eventually she just gave up and entered into the brutal radio/chemotherapy routine. Tough to say whether it went better or not.
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Well, I certainly hope she is feeling better now, Chemo is a horrible thing to have to endure, both for the patient and for their family :(
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Indeed, serious diseases are an area of contention I can understand, but certainly in the realm of muscle problems and other minor ailments, I'd rather recieve Homeopathic treatment than take anti-inflammatories or the like (not that I can, the stuff makes me violently ill anyway).
Yeah, I can see your point, although I suspect Proper Physiotherapy also tends to cover a lot of those areas well, too.
Anecdote; My dad has pretty bad arthritis in his fingers. He spent a while getting Chinese accupuncture, drinking tea made of what appeared to be the contents of a lawnmower bucket, etc. And he thought it was working, but it was far too expensive. Now, I don't know if it was a placebo effect or what. But what I would like, though, is to not pay for these things as is in the NHS, but to take them, study them, find out if they are working and why, and use that to make them affordable treatments (and that doesn't entail making a pill or anything).
To be fair, my opinion on homeopathy in the sense of a minor cure (I wouldn't support its funding where there are known effective, tested, and proven treatments) or as a placebo for something uncurable is a hell of a lot mellower than it was, say, a year ago. The only thing is that homeopathy, thanks to the Bloody Tabloid Media, has now become the cure for everything ever, which is obviously complete bollocks.
Plus, my knee-jerk reaction to anything Prince Charles ever says is '**** off, you plant-talking, in-bred, jug-eared leech'.
This is interesting, though; http://www.badscience.net/?cat=35. Just started reading that webpage/blog proper.
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WOW, :eek2: Steak and chips......."bows" We're not worthy!!!!!!!!"
I'm no advocate od Homeopathy for actually curing ailments of any description, If the patient gets a bit of peace of mind, and thats what they want, Then i support it in that respect..
In any case i'm stuck with the NHS so............. :shaking:
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Ignore it, mostly. If it involves serious pain probably take some Tylenol or ibuprofen. Stuffy nose I just grin (not literally and bear, constricted throat means drinking hot (very hot) water; just water, nothing in it, it's the heat that's effective. If I feel like absolute crap, spend most of the day in bed reading. The only over-the-counter medication that works for me anymore is Nyquil, and most of the time I don't bother with it unless things are just horrible.
I've only taken serious painkillers once; not doing it again. You're loopy, and you know you're loopy, but you can't do anything about it. It's very annoying.
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LMAO, I had a bit of a "mishap" a few years back and i had a morphine autoinjector rammed into my inside thigh, Hurt like hell, after say 12 seconds, I was as high as the preverbial kite, I didnt come down for wwhat felt like two days. Its like youve been forcefed a dozen prozac and your daydreaming on a "rollercoaster" while your bodys numb and your conscouseness is "intermittent" to say the least.
Wholeheartedly reccomended for newcomers to pain relief.
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Most homeopaths who arent greedy and/or ignorant will tell you that they're for strengthening your immune system in the long term, not short term, let alone immediate. "Alternative medications" (I call them nutrition supplements) are wonderful things, as they prevent serious ailments resulting from viral infections, and help to fight off bacterial infections faster. With proper long term treatment, they can sometimes prevent cancer from spreading as fast. They also help a person extend life within a considerable margin. But they wont do jack **** when something has already hit.
Also, I've found that pain killers, cold and cough meds, etc dont do anything anyway, just make you care less about it. I have never felt relief from any of those drugs.
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Most of the time I just ignore any ailments. Even the 'severe' ones turn out to be transient when I do see a doctor.
Case in point: I had this small swelling in my lower abdominal region for a while (about 4 months, I think). It's particularly uncomfortable when I'm cycling or doing any strenuous exercise other than walking. I did a little research and concluded that it could possibly be a hernia, so I went to have it checked out.
The doctor poked and prodded at it for a while, decided it was a hernia (not strangulated, so not immediately life-threatening or painful) then sent me down to the hospital. Another doctor poked at it for a while, couldn't find anything amiss, and sent me home.
By this time, the swelling had gone. 4 months I've had it, and it just vanishes.
A week later, it's back. All the prodding must've fixed it temporarily. I figure it is a hernia, but until it starts to hurt it's not important. Besides, with all my other aches and pains (caused by a combination of a hunched back and an all-or-nothing approach to exercise) it's not particularly important right now.
The only time I take pills is during the summer. Antihistamines to stave off hayfever. Ignoring it only works up to a point.
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I'm certainly not one for 'I am going to focus my mystic energy into the problem area' type Homeopathic treatment, that's one step away from Astrology as far as I'm concerned, but acupuncture seems to be a pretty effective treatment for muscle problems, and massage, whilst being relaxing is also good (But be very careful of homepaths who think massage can solve problems like growths, they stand a vast chance of making matters worse be actually spreading it with the massage). Basically, physical medicine I can accept, spiritual medicine is a pile of crap.
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Well, I certainly hope she is feeling better now, Chemo is a horrible thing to have to endure, both for the patient and for their family :(
Flip, I think you're forgetting something.
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,26186.0.html
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****, sorry man :( Forgot about that entirely.
Sharon lost her Mum to Cancer when she was young :(
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It's okay, it's been a while. Actually, in a couple of months, it'll have been two years already - God.
Anyway, in trademark style, this thread has gone far off its rails in just a few hours. Maybe it'll come back around eventually.
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True, but wounds like that never really heal, I feel kinda insensitive even if it was an accident.
I suppose it's best to let your own body heal whenever possible, since it increases resistance the next time round, a lot of weak immune systems are being traced back to taking too much medicine rather than allow the body to develop appropriate white blood cells.
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Well, back to the topic shall we.
I usually try to ignore it at first. If one thinks too much about the symptoms then you really get sick. If you think that you will not get sick then you are on a right way. Mental drug is one of the best.
But of course, garlic, medicine, vitamines that sort of stuff helps to boost up the mind :p
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Do you guys not think that mental state during flu or whatever is reflective of a deficiancy in a certain element, eg as said earlier garlic and Vitamins raise your mood a bit as the bodies biochemistry reasserts itslef?
itslef??
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He's a Russian Footballer ;)
Yep, diet is vital to how well you remain, plenty of Fruit and Veg is genuinely good for you :D
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Spinach liver and guiness, IRON MAN!!
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garlic & echinacea tablets, plenty of water, and keeping warm has seen me through.
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Spinach liver and guiness, IRON MAN!!
That's Popeye drunk....
and he always looked like a wife-beater to me - :eek2:
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That must be why olive is always on edge, Plus he's a silor, they're p1$$ed up most of the time,.
I bet he picked olive up at some dockside bar (just like GI-Joe spoofs)
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That's Popeye drunk....
and he always looked like a wife-beater to me - :eek2:
That's an interesting point. I mean, if you think cartoons are violent nowadays, Popeye killed people for chrissakes! Not to mention he was a sailor, so drunken wife-beating certainly isn't out of the question. And do we really know what was in his pipe? Tobacco doesn't make you act like that, I can tell you that much.
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garlic & echinacea tablets, plenty of water, and keeping warm has seen me through.
Yeah, you think they're effective? Like I said, those tend to be my first line of defense, but I tend to try and go for the heavy guns (i.e. pharmaceuticals) when the shivering and fever sets in.