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Title: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Kamikaze on June 16, 2006, 03:37:45 pm
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=9745

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The measure proposed by HB 1381, which was drafted with the help of controversial Florida attorney and anti-game activist Jack Thompson, allows a judge to rule on whether or not a video game meets established criteria for being inappropriate for minors and be subsequently pulled from store shelves. A person found guilty of selling such a game to a minor would face fines ranging from $100 to $2,000, plus a prison term of up to one year.

Prison term for selling a minor a violent game? That's goddamn insane.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Shade on June 16, 2006, 03:43:32 pm
But he might have fun. And we can't have that, now can we? I give it 2 weeks before it's found unconstitutional by courts.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Rictor on June 16, 2006, 04:09:37 pm
Living in Canada has never been so sweet.

Stooopeed Ameriiicaans, how yoo like zem abels, eh? Ahahahaha!
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Kernal on June 16, 2006, 05:43:28 pm
If It to violent don`t buy it. It is as simple as that.
If this guy tries to get a federal ban..........


I`ll stab him in the face. ;7
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Turambar on June 16, 2006, 05:59:05 pm
oy, this guy's annoying.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Flipside on June 16, 2006, 07:17:20 pm
The ESA announcement of another law-suit on the grounds of breach of the First and Fourteenth Amendments has also been made.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Polpolion on June 16, 2006, 08:45:54 pm
Wth? Wasn't the fourteenth amendment the one that banned slavery?
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Flipside on June 17, 2006, 06:26:08 am
Sort of, yes, it's the one about non-descrimination regardless of race, colour or preference, basically, by singling out Video Games, it's being taken as descrimination, because video ratings will still be voluntary. It's a sort of fall-back option :)
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 17, 2006, 06:29:14 am
I think it's more along the lines of not subjecting movies or any other form of media to this standard.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Turnsky on June 17, 2006, 08:49:18 am
*is glad to be australian*

Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: IceFire on June 17, 2006, 09:12:50 am
You folks are so screwed down there...I mean we're all screwed but you guys are more.  Lawyers run that country...make no mistake about it.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Mefustae on June 17, 2006, 09:16:56 am
Nah. Money runs this country. Statistically speaking, we spend more time talking about the economy than any other country on the planet.

But anyway, things that you lads up north take for granted, like video-games among others [like good Sci-Fi telly], are all but ignored. Honestly, when I see a game ad on TV, I sit up and take notice, as it's quite a rare sight [at least in NSW, anyway].
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Turnsky on June 17, 2006, 09:51:45 am
Nah. Money runs this country. Statistically speaking, we spend more time talking about the economy than any other country on the planet.

But anyway, things that you lads up north take for granted, like video-games among others [like good Sci-Fi telly], are all but ignored. Honestly, when I see a game ad on TV, I sit up and take notice, as it's quite a rare sight [at least in NSW, anyway].

dude, science fiction TV is a statistic impossibility in tasmania, and yeah, in general, unless it's a world debut, games run quite a few months behind the US in terms of release dates.

while i'll agree with the whole "don't give minors games that aren't in their age rating" thing, the target, however, is the incorrect one, as more often than not, it's the adult PARENT that is buying the game for their kid to just shut them up, it'll be contested, to be sure.
the jail term is just a little overkill in anybody's books, and just utterly stupid, i'd LIKE to see a judge pass that through court.
that said, our video games are rated not unlike actual movies and such, and that's a fair asessment on things, is it not?. (australia has some really tightass censors, too)
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Cobra on June 17, 2006, 10:32:53 am
Ugh, this is just like the ACLU (is that them, or did i get it wrong?) trying to ban the cross, or that guy trying to remove "under god" from the Pledge of Allegiance. ****ers.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: redsniper on June 17, 2006, 01:26:33 pm
Not really, but that's a whole 'nother debate.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: karajorma on June 17, 2006, 06:07:41 pm
Ugh, this is just like the ACLU (is that them, or did i get it wrong?) trying to ban the cross, or that guy trying to remove "under god" from the Pledge of Allegiance. ****ers.

Nope. It's completely different. In fact the ALCU are making that case based on the constitution which is the same document that will be used against this idiotic law.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: aldo_14 on June 17, 2006, 06:10:56 pm
Technically, wasn't that 'under God' thing a holdover from the days of 'Godless Communists' anyways?
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Mars on June 17, 2006, 06:15:18 pm
The ACLU tried to ban the cross?!?  :nervous: I don't remember this, wouldn't that be against the constitution in a big way?
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: aldo_14 on June 17, 2006, 06:18:33 pm
The ACLU tried to ban the cross?!?  :nervous: I don't remember this, wouldn't that be against the constitution in a big way?

Surely that depends what cross it is and where it goes?
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Mars on June 17, 2006, 06:30:09 pm
Ah, okay, that's different, doesn't bug me too much, but ah well
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In 2004, for example, the ACLU of Southern California (ACLU/SC) threatened to sue the city of Redlands, California if it did not remove a picture of a cross from the city's seal.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Black Wolf on June 17, 2006, 06:46:31 pm
Nah. Money runs this country. Statistically speaking, we spend more time talking about the economy than any other country on the planet.

That's because our economy kicks arse at the moment. Well, when I say our I mean 'Western Australia's', and when I say kicks arse I mean 'Kicks so much arse that it props up the rest of the country and then gets bugger all in return'.

Meh. I'm fairly sure that since Icefire is Canadian, he was talking about the US anyway when he said down there...
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 17, 2006, 07:24:34 pm
Technically, wasn't that 'under God' thing a holdover from the days of 'Godless Communists' anyways?

Technically it's a holdover from when everyone in the country was some variation of Christian.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: aldo_14 on June 17, 2006, 07:27:30 pm
No comment, just a wee article.

http://www.slate.com/?id=2067499
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 17, 2006, 07:29:56 pm
/me shrugs.

Point stands.
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: redsniper on June 18, 2006, 12:38:47 am
Technically it's a holdover from when everyone in the country was some variation of Christian.
Especially the Jewish people. :wtf:
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: ZmaN on June 18, 2006, 12:43:20 am
My god thats retarted.

I mean even I'm a christian and still, theres nothing against violent video games as part of the religion.

As for the guy, wow.  thats just pathetic.

Sometimes i just wanna smack people!
Title: Re: Jack Thompson gets violent games legislation in
Post by: Bobboau on June 18, 2006, 01:32:05 am
wow, that games legislation is violent.