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Title: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: redmenace on June 16, 2006, 06:56:24 pm
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: brozozo on June 16, 2006, 07:29:32 pm
Yikes. That's gotta be the most serious and informative YTMND I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: achtung on June 16, 2006, 07:48:53 pm
Google-bomb!
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Goober5000 on June 16, 2006, 07:57:39 pm
Interesting.

One of the best advantages you can give your enemy is to not take him seriously.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Scuddie on June 16, 2006, 11:33:59 pm
Too bad I cant view YTMND no matter which browser I use.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Shadow0000 on June 16, 2006, 11:42:53 pm
Well, it's not exactly the same, but one YTMND references links to Wikipedia, it talks about this (and a few other things):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controversy
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: mr.WHO on June 17, 2006, 02:28:57 am
Quote
"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them." — L. Ron Hubbard, Technique

"Organised religion tries to control, so therefore must be lying." — L. Ron Hubbard, Technique


that's why I'm atheist.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Shadow0000 on June 17, 2006, 02:35:50 am
You didn't catch the concept...however uncyclopedia has done it quite well:

Quote
Scientology is a cult of people too smart to fall for one of the real religions, but too dumb to be suckered in by something unprofitable like atheism.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Goober5000 on June 18, 2006, 12:42:05 am
that's why I'm atheist.

Shouldn't you be ahumanist, since humans are the ones doing the lying?
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: aldo_14 on June 18, 2006, 08:36:21 am
that's why I'm atheist.

Shouldn't you be ahumanist, since humans are the ones doing the lying?

Eh?  It's the theism that's inducing and propagating lies in this context.  It's not like you'd say, say the 'cannibalistic child raping cult of Mordrath' was the fault of the believer but not the priests or the people who invented it.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Setekh on June 19, 2006, 01:09:17 am
Eh?  It's the theism that's inducing and propagating lies in this context.  It's not like you'd say, say the 'cannibalistic child raping cult of Mordrath' was the fault of the believer but not the priests or the people who invented it.

Not that I'm an expert, but I thought scientology was not theistic? Or are you referring to religion in a general sense here (which is generally theistic).
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: aldo_14 on June 19, 2006, 02:55:30 am
Eh?  It's the theism that's inducing and propagating lies in this context.  It's not like you'd say, say the 'cannibalistic child raping cult of Mordrath' was the fault of the believer but not the priests or the people who invented it.

Not that I'm an expert, but I thought scientology was not theistic? Or are you referring to religion in a general sense here (which is generally theistic).

I think scientology can be said to deify Hubbard himself.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 19, 2006, 10:30:23 am
I wouldn't go that far. They don't worship the man; perhaps his (fake) achievements, but not the man himself.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 19, 2006, 10:32:25 am
The unfunny truth is how can Cuise get Kidman, lose here, then end up with cruz' ??
He must be all of three feet tall, I've seen taller hobbits !!
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: aldo_14 on June 19, 2006, 10:35:21 am
The unfunny truth is how can Cuise get Kidman, lose here, then end up with cruz' ??
He must be all of three feet tall, I've seen taller hobbits !!

Level 8 (or whatever) Scientologists can control thoughts.

And the minds of goats.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 19, 2006, 10:36:35 am
yeah but they use ATB system from FF5 so i can just walk away while the atack turn powers up.
 :D
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: neoterran on June 19, 2006, 11:14:31 am
Eh?  It's the theism that's inducing and propagating lies in this context.  It's not like you'd say, say the 'cannibalistic child raping cult of Mordrath' was the fault of the believer but not the priests or the people who invented it.

Not that I'm an expert, but I thought scientology was not theistic? Or are you referring to religion in a general sense here (which is generally theistic).

Scientology is a horrible, horrible cult, do a search for "a piece of blue sky" on google and you can read the book. it's a fascinating read and you'll educate yourself on why scientology is bad bad bad. Before I read it I had some idea scientology was a semi-benevolent quasi-religion, now I understand it is a soul-destroying uberscam.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: TrashMan on June 19, 2006, 03:27:51 pm
You didn't catch the concept...however uncyclopedia has done it quite well:

Quote
Scientology is a cult of people too smart to fall for one of the real religions, but too dumb to be suckered in by something unprofitable like atheism.

Let me re-phrase that so it's more cose to the truth:

"Scientology is a cult of people too dumb to be suckered in by something unprofitable like atheism or to fall for one of the real religions"
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: SadisticSid on June 19, 2006, 03:55:27 pm

Let me re-phrase that so it's more cose to the truth:

"Scientology is a cult of people too dumb to be suckered in by something unprofitable like atheism or to fall for one of the real religions"

*snicker*
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: karajorma on June 20, 2006, 05:32:17 pm
ROTFLMAO

Oh that is just too funny :lol:
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: TrashMan on June 20, 2006, 06:59:50 pm
One also falls in love..and that is not a bad thing, no? :D
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Bobboau on June 20, 2006, 08:01:40 pm
well that depends, is the feeling mutual?
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 20, 2006, 08:12:12 pm
Well, that was one of the most unnerving things I've seen. I really don't know what to say to that.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Kamikaze on June 20, 2006, 09:12:35 pm
By the way, another site has been censored by the Church of Scientology:

Censored article: http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:WFVaKURIof4J:www.codebot.org/articles/%3Fdoc%3D9471+&hl=en&gl=es&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a
Takedown notice: http://codebot.org/notice.html
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: aldo_14 on June 21, 2006, 02:45:36 am
One also falls in love..and that is not a bad thing, no? :D

That depends who or what you fall in love with.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: vyper on June 21, 2006, 08:48:25 am
I never finished watching that. I got to the body of the dutchman in the hotel and thought "eep, not watching this so soon after lunch". Scary stuff though.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Turambar on June 25, 2006, 03:16:04 pm
http://theunfunnysequel.ytmnd.com/

it continues

this should be posted everywhere you know, they can't silence everyone
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: TrashMan on June 25, 2006, 03:32:44 pm
Hell, I'd like the link to that animated gif showing the scientology history..It's a riot! :LOL:
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: redmenace on June 26, 2006, 08:25:38 am
http://theunfunnysequel.ytmnd.com/

oops sorry.
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Kie99 on June 26, 2006, 10:55:16 am
Hell, I'd like the link to that animated gif showing the scientology history..It's a riot! :LOL:
http://historyofscientology.ytmnd.com/
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: redmenace on June 27, 2006, 08:58:25 am
http://scientologyawesomegod.ytmnd.com/
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: Grug on June 27, 2006, 07:04:22 pm
Bloody weirdo's. =/
Title: Re: The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
Post by: TrashMan on June 28, 2006, 06:12:59 pm
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS

LA VENDA VAN )
SCHAICK, et al )
)
) CIVIL ACTION
v. ) NO.
) 79-2491-
)
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF )
CALIFORNIA, et al, )
)
Defendants )

AFFIDAVIT OF RONALD DeWOLF a/k/a L.RON HUBBARD, JR.

I, Ronald DeWolf, formerly L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., hereby
do and state as follows under the penalties of perjury:

1) I have personal knowledge of the facts set forth in this affidavit.

2) I am the oldest son of L. Ron Hubbard, having been born
on May 7, 1934 in Encinatas, California.

3) Between 1949 and 1959 my father and I worked
together on a regular basis in organizing, developing and
promoting many organizations and corporations. which
collectively became known as the Church of Scientology.

4) My father promoted the Church of Scientology with the sale of his
books and publications based on his Various theories relating to the
"science of mind" as the most "exact science" ever developed. He
represented in writing in most of the Church publications that he
possessed degrees from George Washington University, Princeton
University, that he was a nuclear physicist, that he served four years
in combat, was seriously wounded and healed his war wounds with
his theories on the "science of the mind", which is the foundation of
Scientology. Throughout the development years of Scientology and
to the present date, the Church of Scientology has made the
foregoing representations and most individuals who have joined
the organization that

I personally know, relied specifically on my father's represented
qualifications and credentials. The stated representations are all
false. He never obtained degrees from those universities, or ever
served in combat. He was relieved of duty three times as being
unfit, and ended up in a psychiatric hospital at the end of the war.
He is a fraud and has always been a fraud.

5) My father's fraudulent conduct is exemplified
in the structure of his corporations including the Church of
Scientology of California. In connection with each and every
corporation which we created under general heading of 'the
Church of Scientology', my father always required all of the
Directors and Officers of all corporations to give him undated
signed resignations in advance which he held. In that manner,
he always has retained complete control over every corporation
including its bank accounts. In the early years, my father
regularly emptied out these corporation bank accounts
whenever the A.M.A., or a local district attorney, etc.
posed a threat to one of his organizations.

A copy of express instructions on this point in my father's
handwriting is enclosed.

6) My father represented orally and in writing that his theories
relating to the "science of the mind" were based on 30 years of
case studies conducted on a scientific basis by him as a nuclear
physicist and scientist. Most people that I knew who paid money
to my father's corporation to learn about this science also relied
on the above stated representations in addition to my father's
credentials. Similarly, the above stated representations are false.
My father wrote his books off the top of his head based on his
imagination. There were no case studies. He is not a nuclear physicist
and flunked nearly all of his science related courses in high school and
college.

7) My father obtained the rights to the E-meter in 1952 from
Volney Mathison in the same manner that he does everything -
through fraud and coercion. My father learned about the E-meter
from Mathison who developed it and my father fraudulently
extracted those rights from Mathison so that my father could
use it in Scientology auditing.

8) My father has always used the confidential information
extracted from people during auditing sessions to intimidate,
threaten and coerce them to do what he wanted, which often
meant getting them to give him money. My father routinely
used false threats and auditing information particularly
about crimes people had committed to extort money from them.

9) My father has always held out Scientology and
auditing to be based purely on science and not-on religious
"belief or faith. We regularly promised and distributed
publications with "scientific guarantees". This was and has
always been common practice. My father and I created a "re-
ligious front" only for tax purposes and legal protection 'from
fraud Claims'. We almost always told nearly everyone that
Scientology was really science, not a religion, but that the
religious front was created to deal--with the government.
10) My father's basic policies relating to "suppressive persons",
"Fair Game", "attack the attacker", etc. have .always been and
will always be an'integral part of Scientology. The organizational
structure of Scientology and the theories of Scientology cannot
operate and Scientology would not be scientology without such
policies. The entire basis of my father's "science" is the suppressive
person this theory, just as nazism would not be nazism without the theories
of Aryan supremacy and anti-semitism. My father and I discussed
the basic theories of dealing with suppressive persons, such as
what eventually became designated as the "Fair Game Doctrine",
on many occasions. These policies have never changed.
Signed under the pains and penalties of perjury

// -

RONALD DeWOLF



end of** AFFIDAVIT **