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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Dark_4ce on January 04, 2002, 08:28:00 am: Is anyone actually making a campaign from the shivan point of view? I've heard some things and seen some missions where you're a shivan, but I'm talking about a full blown campaign with all the goodies and mods! I'm just wondering, would make a pritty badass campaign. I mean I really like most of the GTVA campaigns that are out there, but I'm want to be evil for a while!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/evil.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/ninja.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/evil.gif)

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: joek on January 04, 2002, 08:57:00 am: I'd play that campaign. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Nico on January 04, 2002, 11:53:00 am: there was Hidden terror, but I think DragonClaw gave up.
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Neon on January 04, 2002, 11:55:00 am: I don't think it would be much fun! Info about the shivans communications is as low as possible (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif). It would really suck to hear a shivan commander saying: Alpha 1, destroy the Vega Communication Station (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif). Someone that does that kind of campaign has to be a lot creative! Anyway, i would really like to be a shivan and annihalate the GTVA (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/naughty.gif)

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: vadar_1 on January 04, 2002, 12:09:00 pm: Shivan would be hella hard to do considering you would have to do a ton of modding just to use the default ships. Including editing the table for each shivan fighter, weapon, making new communication portraits, most likely a new hud, and making so shivan ships could actually talk, which im not sure how that could be accomplished (making the grey bracket go around the ship when its talking). Pretty big challange...
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Darkage on January 04, 2002, 01:14:00 pm: Well DragonClaw only needs to make one mission but he is makeing that one mission for months now.

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: karajorma on January 04, 2002, 03:06:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by vadar_1:
Shivan would be hella hard to do considering you would have to do a ton of modding just to use the default ships. Including editing the table for each shivan fighter, weapon, making new communication portraits, most likely a new hud, and making so shivan ships could actually talk, which im not sure how that could be accomplished (making the grey bracket go around the ship when its talking). Pretty big challange...

Aren't there already mods to allow people to fly shivan ships? Even if there aren`t you could say that the pilot flys a mara.
Simply say that shivans don`t get to swap ships like humans. They get a ship and they are in it until the ship is destroyed.
Comms could be got around in a similar way. Maybe shivans don`t need to see pictures of the shivan giving them the order. Just leave that part of the HUD black. Or you could make an ani of the ship sending the message (that would be kinda cool actually).
What I don`t get is your comment about making shivan ships talk. If you make a message and put the shivan ship as the point of origin you`ll get a grey box same as you usually do with terran or vasudan ships.

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Mad Bomber on January 04, 2002, 03:18:00 pm: Hehehehe... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: WMCoolmon on January 04, 2002, 05:09:00 pm: Sort of like HW (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Zeronet on January 04, 2002, 05:38:00 pm: Make it sound like Shivan talk, those funny sharp scary sounds. Then just list the objectives or something. Actually trying to be Shivan would be hard, unless you took a Hive stance in which the Queen or something would give you orders.
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: vadar_1 on January 04, 2002, 08:27:00 pm: Major self is hurting!
enemy parts will become self parts!

er um, scary as beast (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Neon on January 05, 2002, 12:05:00 am: Well, I think we've already got the data to make this kinda campaign (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)! Any volunteers (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/confused.gif)

Edit: I still write campaing... Wow, now i'm confused (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: vadar_1 on January 05, 2002, 12:08:00 am: did you find a way to extract the beast voices? cause those would make kickass shivan voices, or just use zerg from starcraft.

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Thorn on January 05, 2002, 12:23:00 am: We got em out...
And we'll probably use them (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: vadar_1 on January 05, 2002, 12:49:00 am: you were able to extract them?????? o all mighty one, show me the way!
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Dark_4ce on January 05, 2002, 05:28:00 am: Whoah, if people are actually considering to make a shivan campaign, count me in too!! On shivan talk, we would'nt necesarily need them to speak english. Hell, I'd be happy with a bunch of crackles, skreetches and howls!! Cause I'd be SHIVAN!

I like the idea that the shivan would become ONE with the ship, as in having the fighter be an extension to the body, and having the player play through the campaign in that ship. But I think that would pose some problems. I mean, it sounds cool, but I can't see myself flying through a bunch of missions in the same fighter.

On plot I think it would be great to either have an "alternate" f2 campaign, as in having it take place during the main f2 campaign. But that might get boring, so I was thinking of "once again" it taking place in the future and the Shivans finally winning. It would be depressing, but man would it be fun. Hey, there would even be a mission where you get to shoot down the GTVA's über-hero Alpha 1 and his Blue Lions in mission to destroy GTVA morale. No mercy! MUHAHAHAHA!!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/evil.gif)
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Neon on January 05, 2002, 08:42:00 am: (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: vadar_1 on January 05, 2002, 12:00:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Dark_4ce:
On plot I think it would be great to either have an "alternate" f2 campaign, as in having it take place during the main f2 campaign. But that might get boring, so I was thinking of "once again" it taking place in the future and the Shivans finally winning. It would be depressing, but man would it be fun. Hey, there would even be a mission where you get to shoot down the GTVA's über-hero Alpha 1 and his Blue Lions in mission to destroy GTVA morale. No mercy! MUHAHAHAHA!!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/evil.gif)

Take out the Collosus's forward beam cannons so the Sathanas has a fighting chance, pilot!
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Dark_4ce on January 05, 2002, 12:16:00 pm: (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)Hehehehehehheh... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Zeronet on January 05, 2002, 12:44:00 pm: The collosus doesnt have forward beam Cannons..
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: vadar_1 on January 05, 2002, 12:49:00 pm: it has beam cannons... big LBFGreen ones that hurt the fragile little sathy
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: CP5670 on January 05, 2002, 02:09:00 pm: That beam cannon in the front is actually just a TerSlash. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

"Pilots, you must sit back and relax while one of our Sathanas-class warships destroys the Colossus. Also, take out that pesky wing of Bakhas designated Alpha, particularly the wing leader, Alpha 1."

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Dark_4ce on January 05, 2002, 03:22:00 pm: There's gotta be a line in the campaign where a Shivan would say "What, do I look Human to you?!"
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Sandwich on January 06, 2002, 05:51:00 am: "That was too close. We gotta wait fifteen aweks to change our exoskeletons." (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Starwing on January 06, 2002, 06:25:00 am: "Sathanas No. 384 is now on station."
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: delta_7890 on January 08, 2002, 04:28:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Starwing:
"Sathanas No. 384 is now on station."

Would they even call it a Sathanas? Remember, Sathanas is *our* designation of the ship. Their designation could very well just be unpronouncable shreeks, snarls, and the like. Or just a really messed up colaboration of letters.
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Dark_4ce on January 08, 2002, 04:33:00 pm: "*krpkpslphrrrrrt*howl* is now on station."

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Dark_4ce on January 08, 2002, 04:49:00 pm: This topic has been fermenting in my mind slowly, and I've been jotting down some ideas. Yeah, I know its futile to even suggest the scope of this kind of project, but never the less, I'm gonna write out a script for the campaign, ideas, pictures, everything, so that if it ever would get started into a campaign, I got something to start on, or would be happy to give to some one else for use. I WANT A SHIVAN CAMPAIGN!! So, start pouring in those ideas! So I can at least start the portfolio. I got nothing better to do... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Hey if the dudes could do the Babylon 5 project, we could do this!
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Nico on January 08, 2002, 05:33:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Dark_4ce:
This topic has been fermenting in my mind slowly, and I've been jotting down some ideas. Yeah, I know its futile to even suggest the scope of this kind of project, but never the less, I'm gonna write out a script for the campaign, ideas, pictures, everything, so that if it ever would get started into a campaign, I got something to start on, or would be happy to give to some one else for use. I WANT A SHIVAN CAMPAIGN!! So, start pouring in those ideas! So I can at least start the portfolio. I got nothing better to do... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Hey if the dudes could do the Babylon 5 project, we could do this!

you'd better contact DragonClaw dude.
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Dark_4ce on January 08, 2002, 05:40:00 pm: The working title:

(http://www.kolumbus.fi/stepre/shiva.jpg)

Funny thing about it is the layer effect used is HARD LIGHT. well... It made me laugh. Not a very creative name, I know but its all I could think of for 2:38 in the morning... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 08, 2002, 05:46:00 pm: Its called Red X on a White Background?

Anyways, this idea occoured to me a while back. There was never any danger of me actually getting off me arse and doing somthing about it, but I thought it might be fun for the briefings to just read *untranslatable*, and let the player figure it out for himself....
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: LAW ENFORCER on January 08, 2002, 07:06:00 pm: Its that like a spin off of the carry on stuff:

Camp Again Shiva. Sorry, couldn't resist!
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Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Dark_4ce on January 09, 2002, 07:11:00 am: Heheheh... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Like seeing all these teenage shivans breaking their necks on skateboards, or little kiddy shivans going to summer camp and telling horror stories while roasting terran eyeballs? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Roy fokker on March 04, 2002, 07:05:17 pm: hey Dragonclaw tried his best we just got side tracked that's all
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Nico on March 05, 2002, 01:01:25 am: Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Its called Red X on a White Background?

Anyways, this idea occoured to me a while back. There was never any danger of me actually getting off me arse and doing somthing about it, but I thought it might be fun for the briefings to just read *untranslatable*, and let the player figure it out for himself....

oh yeah, hilarious.
Title: Shivan Campaign
Post by: Dark_4ce on March 05, 2002, 04:59:43 pm: How is that campaign going anyway?