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Title: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Nik on June 18, 2006, 05:03:21 am
was curious to see how many of u guys reckon FS 2 is the best space sim ever made? Is this a fair enough proclamation?

I remember playing X-Wing back in the day but I've never seen anything quite like FS 2!

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Roanoke on June 18, 2006, 05:05:03 am
strictly speaking, FS is more of an arcade style shoot 'em up.

Otherwise, yeah, I can't think of any that do it better.
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Nik on June 18, 2006, 05:49:17 am
yeah i can see where ur coming from abt the style, although its a bit deeper than an actual arcade space shooter lol.....

there games like Terminus which model physics very accurately and are more genuine "sims" but they just dont give as satisying a gaming experience for sci fi buffs.....Im not totally sure but isnt FS the only game with cap ships that big and able to fight each other....

I remember the cap ships from X-wing and Tie fighter but not quite like the behemoths in FS, cant remember the ones in Wing Commander etc
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: ShivanSpS on June 18, 2006, 09:36:44 am
In combat, FS is the best of the best.

In effects, graphics, well, X3 have some better textures, planets, but FS have much better explocions, and we are not even talking about impact decals.

Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Fergus on June 18, 2006, 09:40:49 am
Freespace has certainly been the most satisfying space sim/arcade shooter/explosions gallery I've ever played.  It's just filled with all those moments that make a game for me.  Diving out the way of the scariest looking ship I'd seen in a long long time, evading waves of flack and beam fire to drop that killing blow, frantically fighting off hordes of bombers and intercepting those devilish warheads, watching a vast warship the size of a small continent getting oblitterated by one the size of a planet.  Don't get me wrong, there are some good games out there (The X-wing series always has a place in my heart), but FS for me, is hands down, the best.
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Cyker on June 18, 2006, 10:32:01 am
My fav. space combat sim is still TIE Fighter, mainly because the plot really immersed me.

FS2's is a bit half-arsed, and the enemy AI is utter ****e compared to the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games.

FS2 scores points for scale - Everything is just HUGE... I feel so insignificant in FS2, whereas in TF and XW you often single-handedly destroy every cap ship in the mission ;)

And it looks pretty :D

Freelancer and the Elite games still have a place in my heart because they are open-ended and just allow so much exploration.
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Mars on June 18, 2006, 10:40:12 am
At this point I think FS2O is pretty hard to beat, it certainly has some of the best graphics in a space sim. The pace is just right two, some of the I-War, from what I've X3, and the Wing Commander games, Privateer in preticular, were just too slow, and simple things took ages
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Ghostavo on June 18, 2006, 10:55:33 am
No other game makes use of pyric victories as good as FS and FS2.

The main enemy, although thwarted still looks almost as invincible as the first time it appeared and not a pushover like in other sims.
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Eishtmo on June 18, 2006, 08:34:17 pm
You ask this question in a place that was basically created around the game?

Freespace 2 was so good, it practically killed the genre.
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 19, 2006, 05:52:08 am
I love Wing Commander and FS2 equaly in different ways, Somhow FS2 pulls off a more evolved combat method, WC has been part of my childhood and will stay with me, Hopefuly the WC mod will spawn a bastard child of both that will bring a new appreciation of both from the games opposite audience :D
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: AlphaOne on June 19, 2006, 06:49:58 am
yep while fs 2 is more of an arcade stile its the best i've played so far!
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: SadisticSid on June 25, 2006, 01:48:45 pm
FS2's is a bit half-arsed, and the enemy AI is utter ****e compared to the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games.

I love the pre-XWA games as much as anyone, but that is a very far-fetched claim. Yes, Freespace's AI may crash into other ships a lot, but all the Star Wars space sim fighters did was attack you head on, fly straight for about 5 seconds so you could turn around and get a few shots off, then turn back towards you and repeat. To be fair, it's not much different in FS2, but attack patterns are a lot more varied and apart from the horrendous collision problems with big ships and formations, that's better for me.
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Flaser on June 25, 2006, 02:26:28 pm
Anyone claiming that the FS2 AI is half arsed haven't got the guts to turn up the difficulty.
Which makes them pretty much that: difficult.

Slide capable ships like the Mara are particulary deadly.
Title: Re: Freespace 2: Hands down the best space sim ever made?
Post by: Tyrian on June 25, 2006, 10:02:33 pm
FS2 is the best, but I'm basing that more on the player community than on the game's content itself (which is excellent).  Without the community, we wouldn't have such an incredible game today. 

[Off Topic]

Has anyone ever figured out what causes all those in game collisions?  An AI script error maybe?