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Title: Can't convert music?
Post by: Dark Hunter on June 20, 2006, 09:50:34 pm
Ok, so I wanted to take Freespace's music with me on a disc/mp3 player. But when I try to convert/transfer it, it says: "Unable due to unrecognized codec." This is pretty stupid to me because all of my music-players can play the files just fine. So is there a way around this? Is there a way to place a codec into an MP3 player? And if so, what codec does freespace's music use?
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 21, 2006, 04:56:11 am
Gah'?  I thought they were wav files?

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Music.tbl (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Music.tbl)

Sorry i cant find out what format they are.......

You might try asking in the FS Port forum, they are pretty clued up on thath, and i believe they may have converted the original tracks/update hem somehow :confused:
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: pecenipicek on June 21, 2006, 06:32:39 am
download WinLAME and reencode the wav files to mp3, just use some of the presets it offers you, even CBR128k will do wonders...


as to explain for your mp3 not recognizing it, it either doesnt support wav playback, or the music is actually mp3 in a wav container... rather inefficient stuff too. eats too much power decoding if its going through the wav "decoder"
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: karajorma on June 22, 2006, 02:54:01 am
IIRC FS2 uses wavs using MS ADPCM compression. Something like Goldwave (http://www.goldwave.com/) should be able to convert it (Or at least turn it into an uncompressed wav).
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: Akalamanaia on June 22, 2006, 03:22:08 am
Most use ADPCM, and some use just PCM.
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: Dark Hunter on June 29, 2006, 01:10:39 pm
Gah'?  I thought they were wav files?

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Music.tbl (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Music.tbl)

Sorry i cant find out what format they are.......

You might try asking in the FS Port forum, they are pretty clued up on thath, and i believe they may have converted the original tracks/update hem somehow :confused:


They ARE wav files.... which is why I'm so confused by this. I can play FS1 music on MP3 players easily enough, so why not FS2?  Did FS2 introduce a customized codec for their music?
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: karajorma on June 29, 2006, 01:21:32 pm
They're MS ADPCM encoded wav files as I said earlier. Both require a codec IIRC but it comes with windows. It probably doesn't come with your mp3 player.

No idea why the FS1s work though. They appear to use the same codec. Maybe they used an earlier version.
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: Parias on June 29, 2006, 02:14:27 pm
That's correct - there really isn't too much of a difference between the two games in terms of music encoding (at least not from a codec standpoint):

(http://members.shaw.ca/tekki/FS1Wav.png)

(http://members.shaw.ca/tekki/FS2Wav.png)
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: KappaWing on June 30, 2006, 01:53:34 pm
The program is called G-Spot!  :lol:
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2006, 04:19:09 pm
Fits with the icon.
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: karajorma on July 01, 2006, 05:58:59 am
The program is called G-Spot!  :lol:

Yep. It's something that everyone should have a copy of too if they've ever had a movie render sound but not video or visa versa. You can find it here (http://www.headbands.com/gspot/).
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: Dark Hunter on August 13, 2006, 12:40:20 am
Update: figured part of the mystery.

The Fs1's play because they are Icefire's music pack (which is available for download somewhere....). It just happened so long ago I didn't remember where I'd got them.  :P

Did Icefire ever make a music pack of FS2?
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: Ferret on August 13, 2006, 01:15:08 am
The program is called G-Spot!  :lol:
I seriously wish it wasn't, you have no idea how hard it is to Google for something called "G-Spot". I really should remember the URL, I keep needing it again every so often and finding that I've lost it.
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: karajorma on August 13, 2006, 04:11:07 am
Google for Gspot + codec. It's top of the list then :)

I knew right from the second I had to search for that the first time I wouldn't find it easily unless I used more than one word :)
Title: Re: Can't convert music?
Post by: KappaWing on August 13, 2006, 11:07:10 am
I just used musicmatch jukebox file format converter and they converted to normal, stable mp3s just fine and they work great on my creative zen micro.  :nod: