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Title: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: redmenace on June 27, 2006, 12:28:06 pm
This is not a joke...http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/id/3462064
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Night Hammer on June 27, 2006, 12:29:38 pm
hmmm just cuz i like mel brooks so much ill watch it, itll prolly be bad, but oh well
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Shade on June 27, 2006, 12:30:20 pm
About time!
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Turambar on June 27, 2006, 01:01:36 pm
i wonder if they get the president from independence day to come back
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 27, 2006, 03:00:46 pm
Somebody needs to cut Lucas down to size...here's hoping.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: TrashMan on June 27, 2006, 04:08:06 pm
YESSSSSSS!!!!  ;7 :lol: :D ;)
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: vaang on June 27, 2006, 04:28:17 pm
with a CG John Candy?
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: pecenipicek on June 27, 2006, 05:16:42 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!



that is all.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Grug on June 27, 2006, 06:24:16 pm
with a CG John Candy?

:lol:
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Ulala on June 27, 2006, 06:37:47 pm
*Won't believe it until he sees it*
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Tyrian on June 27, 2006, 06:48:23 pm
Somebody needs to cut Lucas down to size...here's hoping.

Don't even think it.  Ever.  Never ever.  Never, never, never ever.

As to the movie, finally a sequel!   :yes2:   :yes:
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 27, 2006, 07:45:08 pm
Somebody needs to cut Lucas down to size...here's hoping.

Don't even think it.  Ever.  Never ever.  Never, never, never ever.

Make me. :p
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Tyrian on June 27, 2006, 08:23:40 pm
*Straps ngtm1r to a steel pallet with tungsten rings welded to the frame*

How's that?
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Grug on June 27, 2006, 08:33:30 pm
How's that gonna stop him thinking? :p
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: WeatherOp on June 27, 2006, 08:49:19 pm
*Straps ngtm1r to a steel pallet with tungsten rings welded to the frame*

How's that?


Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm :nervous:

Is it just me?
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Tyrian on June 27, 2006, 09:12:25 pm
@Grug -- *Prepares lobotomy tools*  This ought to fix that pesky "thinking" problem...

@WeatherOp -- I think I know what you're thinking...It's not like that...That's just...wrong...
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 27, 2006, 09:23:29 pm
@Grug -- *Prepares lobotomy tools*  This ought to fix that pesky "thinking" problem...

@WeatherOp -- I think I know what you're thinking...It's not like that...That's just...wrong...

/me simply uses a jumpclone. :p
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Gortef on June 28, 2006, 08:17:53 am
Now this did surprise me completely, in a most positive way :D
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Tyrian on June 28, 2006, 08:54:30 am
@ngtm1r -- Jumpclone?
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 28, 2006, 11:42:34 am
@ngtm1r -- Jumpclone?

EVE. Play it.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: ZylonBane on June 29, 2006, 02:47:04 pm
You know, the original Spaceballs really wasn't that great. Sure it had its moments, but for the most part it was sci-fi parody as written by someone who's grasp of the subject consisted of having seen Star Wars. Airplane II was actually a better sci-fi spoof, IMHO.

Besides which, Mel Brooks peaked in the 70s. Check out his Director - Filmography credits on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000316/). It's pretty much a straight downward slide from the glory of Blazing Saddles to the bland mediocrity of Dead and Loving It.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: karajorma on June 29, 2006, 04:51:07 pm
The Producers was made in the 60s. You lose.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: ZylonBane on June 29, 2006, 05:29:39 pm
Ummm... that in no way invalidates anything I said.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: karajorma on June 29, 2006, 06:29:37 pm
Besides which, Mel Brooks peaked in the 70s.

The Producers was made in the 60s.

You lose again.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: ZylonBane on June 29, 2006, 07:21:14 pm
Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein were better than The Producers.

So, like, **** you.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: WeatherOp on June 29, 2006, 07:26:19 pm
Dead and Loving it was great, I don't know what your talking about.
'
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: ZylonBane on June 29, 2006, 07:46:13 pm
Oh yeah, it was just awesome. (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dracula_dead_and_loving_it/)
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: karajorma on June 30, 2006, 02:26:53 am
Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein were better than The Producers.

So, like, **** you.

Eloquent.

Blazing Saddles while good runs out of ideas and falls apart at end when it's forced to go with the big fight scene ending.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Turnsky on June 30, 2006, 02:29:33 am
well, given that mel has even more material to make fun of, this might be worth a viewing
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: ZylonBane on June 30, 2006, 09:11:26 am
Eloquent.
Precisely as eloquent as "You lose". And I didn't even feel the need to repeat myself.

I'm still scratching my head over how you think a big fight scene at the end of a western -- a genre practically defined by its use of violence to resolve conflict -- represents any failing of ideas. Does someone need to sit you down and explain what "satire" is?
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: karajorma on June 30, 2006, 10:07:39 am
It's not that it has a big fight scene but that it the film was so desperate for an ending that they had to have the cast break onto the set of another movie.

While mildly funny it pretty much shows that Brookes was unable to come up with an ending within the settings of the movie he had made. Not exactly a sign of greatness.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: ZylonBane on June 30, 2006, 12:06:42 pm
Hmmm, I guess you DO need to have satire explained to you.

Blazing Saddles is a deconstruction of the western. It constantly directs little self-aware winks toward the audience that indicate that yes, these characters know they're playing out stereotypical roles. It's full of anachronistic and fourth-wall-breaking lines, from "I must have killed more men than Cecil B. DeMille", to "You will be risking your lives, whilst I will be risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for the Best Supporting Actor."

And to top it off, near the climax of the film they build a fake town-- the metajoke being, of course, that the fake town they've built is using the same false fronts as the "real" town in the rest of the film. So when the camera pulls out from the fight scene in the fake town to reveal they're all in the middle of a movie studio -- that it's ALL fake -- this is nothing more than the logical conclusion of the film's overarching theme.

But hey, if you weren't sharp enough to catch that, your loss.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: karajorma on June 30, 2006, 01:39:08 pm
I'm well aware of the breakage of the 4th wall throughout the movie. It's just not that funny as an ending though.

Wasn't funny when Monty Python did it (http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0071853/) a year later either.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: ZylonBane on June 30, 2006, 01:51:34 pm
Make up your mind, Kar. First you say it was Mel running out of ideas, now you're just saying you didn't like it. And now you're dissing Holy Grail as well?

If you're going to participate in threads like this, you need to warn people. Like, put "NOTICE: My sense of humor has a pole up its ass" in your sig.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Ulala on June 30, 2006, 02:07:53 pm
*sigh*
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: karajorma on June 30, 2006, 02:45:27 pm
Make up your mind, Kar. First you say it was Mel running out of ideas, now you're just saying you didn't like it. And now you're dissing Holy Grail as well?

If you're going to participate in threads like this, you need to warn people. Like, put "NOTICE: My sense of humor has a pole up its ass" in your sig.

So having a difference of opinions from you can only be responded to with insults? Sad ZB. Very sad.

Let me ask you this. Why would you end a comedy movie with a final 5 minutes that isn't that funny except that you couldn't come up with anything else?
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Ulala on June 30, 2006, 03:16:33 pm
If your budget ran out.  :p
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: karajorma on June 30, 2006, 03:33:36 pm
In some cases I can see that. Not in a case where it would involve hiring hundreds of extras and building new sets just for the ending though.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: TrashMan on June 30, 2006, 04:29:38 pm
Let me ask you this. Why would you end a comedy movie with a final 5 minutes that isn't that funny except that you couldn't come up with anything else?

Correction - not funny to YOU. Speak for yourself only.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: karajorma on June 30, 2006, 04:46:51 pm
That the film peters out towards the end is a common complaint so it's not just my point of view.

Furthermore you miss the point. I'm not saying that Blazing Saddles isn't funny. I'm not even saying that it's not as good as The Producers. In actual fact I would be hard pressed to choose between them.

What I'm actually saying that there is little to choose in quality between the two and therefore ZylonBane's claim that Mel Brookes best films were from the 70s is a load of ****.
Title: Re: Spaceballs II: The search for more money
Post by: Dark Hunter on June 30, 2006, 06:52:27 pm
My god..... all this simply from a slight date correction. Was quite entertaining but could we please get back on topic?

(Note: In case anyone has forgotten, the topic is "Spaceballs II")


I for one don't think that it is a true movie being made. To learn why I think this, read this article:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceballs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceballs), specifically, the "Sequels" section.