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Title: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Kamikaze on June 27, 2006, 09:05:58 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

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From the web page:

When immigrants want to become Americans, they must take a civics test as part of their naturalization interview before a Citizenship and Immigration Services officer. The questions are usually selected from a list of 100 sample questions (see at http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/English.pdf ) that prospective citizens can look at ahead of the interview (though the examiner is not limited to those questions). Some are easy, some are not. We have picked some of the more difficult ones.
Should you be welcomed immediately to the Land of the Free or sent home for some more homework? Find out!
(PLEASE NOTE: These questions are as asked on the official United States Immigration and Naturalization Services Web site. Candidates are not given multiple choices in the naturalization interview, which is conducted orally.)

I only got 80%.  :nervous:
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: WMCoolmon on June 27, 2006, 09:16:58 pm
95%

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85-100%: Welcome to the United States! (And, truth be told, you know more about this great land than most Americans.)

 :nervous:
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Mefustae on June 27, 2006, 10:20:49 pm
30%

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25-40%: Mmmm. Do you really want to be a citizen? This kind of performance isn't going to impress those nice immigration folks.

Who the f*** wants to become an American nowadays, anyway? :nervous:
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Rictor on June 27, 2006, 10:28:54 pm
80% and I don't even live there.

Thank you America: The Book, the audiobook!
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Turambar on June 27, 2006, 10:29:35 pm
lol, i love that book
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Dough with Fish on June 27, 2006, 10:38:20 pm
In my senior year of highschool, my Modern Problems teacher (civcs, bascially) made us all take the test, orally just like it is always given, to pass the class. If we failed, he would give you one more chance. If you refused to take it, he failed you outright for the entire class. Oh, and the course was REQUIRED to graduate. It might seem harsh, be he felt that if immigrants from half way around the world are required to know it, then why should't his students?
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Rictor on June 27, 2006, 10:49:21 pm
Seems reasonable. I think every citizen should be required to re-take such a test every few years, for example when renewing your passport or Social Security card. If it's just a one-time thing, you can study for a day and forget it. If a citizen doesn't know a bare minimum about his country's political structure and history, he shouldn't be a citizen.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Knight Templar on June 27, 2006, 10:59:08 pm
90%.

Apparently Kentucky wasn't an original state. lawl.  Oh and how would I know what the form number is for becoming a citizen? pfft.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Nuke on June 27, 2006, 11:01:58 pm
%55

and i thought i was a history buff :D
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Shade on June 27, 2006, 11:08:27 pm
75% at 6am in the morning. 2 hours and a cup of coffee from now and I'd probably break 85% easily.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: watsisname on June 27, 2006, 11:10:10 pm
90%.  I goofed on #3 and had no idea about #15.  I was actually really surprised that I did that well... history is NOT my best subject.
And LOL at anyone who said that "New Zealand" was an original US state. :lol:
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Mefustae on June 27, 2006, 11:29:01 pm
And LOL at anyone who said that "New Zealand" was an original US state. :lol:
Hey...! Shutup...
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Deepblue on June 27, 2006, 11:42:41 pm
I bet I could ace it if I had the inclination to take it.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: achtung on June 27, 2006, 11:56:41 pm
90%.

Apparently Kentucky wasn't an original state. lawl.  Oh and how would I know what the form number is for becoming a citizen? pfft.
Nope we were the 15th.  :nervous:
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Ace on June 28, 2006, 12:08:22 am
I bet I could ace it if I had the inclination to take it.

Put your money where your mouth is. ...or at least your foot :p
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: karajorma on June 28, 2006, 05:12:19 am
80%. I guess that makes me more american than most Americans :D
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 28, 2006, 05:29:15 am
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You answered 55% of questions correctly. Here's your rating:

0-20%: Maybe you're still thinking too much about the Old Country -- and that's where you should probably be.

25-40%: Mmmm. Do you really want to be a citizen? This kind of performance isn't going to impress those nice immigration folks.

45-60%: Not too bad, but you really need to break out the civics books again -- word is, the INS is looking for an 80 percent score.

65-80%: Hey, you may make a good citizen yet! Look at your wrong answers and a little revision should do the trick.

85-100%: Welcome to the United States! (And, truth be told, you know more about this great land than most Americans.)

Scroll down to see answers for each question. Also, please let us know what you think about the quiz. The feedback is appreciated.
 
 
 
 
 1. How many stripes are there on the U.S. flag? 
 Correct
13 
 
 2. Who is the chief justice of the Supreme Court today? 
 Correct
John G. Roberts Jr.   
 
 3. In what year was the Constitution written?   
 1812 is not correct.
1787   
 
 4. Which of these is guaranteed by the First Amendment?   
 Right to bear arms is not correct.
Freedom of the press   
 
 5. How many Supreme Court justices are there?   
 Correct

 
 6. What are the first 10 amendments to the Constitution called?   
 Correct
The Bill of Rights   
 
 7. When was the Declaration of Independence adopted?   
 July 4, 1812 is not correct.
July 4, 1776   
 
 8. Which of the following amendments to the Constitution does NOT address or guarantee voting rights? 
 Correct
7th Amendment   
 
 9. What are the 13 original states? 
 Correct
Connecticut, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Rhode Island, Maryland   
 
 10. What do the stripes on the U.S. flag mean?   
 Correct
They represent the 13 original states 
 
 11. What is the introduction to the Constitution called?   
 The Declaration of Independence is not correct.
The Preamble 
 
 12. How many changes or amendments are there to the Constitution? 
 Correct
27 
 
 13. Which of the following is NOT one of the constitutional requirements to be eligible to become president?   
 Must have lived in the United States for at least 14 years is not correct.
Must have served as a governor   
 
 14. Who selects the Supreme Court justices?   
 Correct
They are appointed by the president. (NOTE: This is the response given on the official United States Citizenship and Immigration Services Web site. The president selects the justices; however, they must be confirmed by the U.S. Senate. If they are rejected by the Senate, then the president must choose a new nominee, who, again, is subject to Senate approval.)   
 
 15. How many representatives are there in Congress?   
 Correct
435   
 
 16. Who said, "Give me liberty or give me death"?   
 George Washington is not correct.
Patrick Henry   
 
 17. Why did the Pilgrims come to America?   
 To escape the Revolutionary War is not correct.
For religious freedom   
 
 18. Who has the power to declare war?   
 The president is not correct.
Congress 
 
 19. What INS form is used to apply to become a naturalized citizen?
 
 Correct
N-400 "Application for Naturalization"   
 
 20. Which of these contains three rights or freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights?   
 Right to life, right to liberty, right to the pursuit of happiness is not correct.
Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion


What can i say i'm English :D
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Mefustae on June 28, 2006, 05:51:10 am
You could have just written '55%', y'know.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Fineus on June 28, 2006, 06:52:13 am
The more important question here is:

How many current American citizens can score more than 80% on this test?

My money is on the statistics being frightening.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: aldo_14 on June 28, 2006, 07:27:13 am
70%.

Thanks to guesswork ;)
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Goober5000 on June 28, 2006, 09:26:14 am
100%.  I was surprised at how easy the questions were... :nervous:
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: pecenipicek on June 28, 2006, 09:50:39 am
50%


who the hell wants to be an american apart from people too poor to realise that once you're in it isnt much better than when you were in your country?


i for one dont. i'm perfectly happy living here where i am.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Deepblue on June 28, 2006, 11:08:52 am
100%

Wheres my money Ace?

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You answered 100% of questions correctly. Here's your rating:

0-20%: Maybe you're still thinking too much about the Old Country -- and that's where you should probably be.

25-40%: Mmmm. Do you really want to be a citizen? This kind of performance isn't going to impress those nice immigration folks.

45-60%: Not too bad, but you really need to break out the civics books again -- word is, the INS is looking for an 80 percent score.

65-80%: Hey, you may make a good citizen yet! Look at your wrong answers and a little revision should do the trick.

85-100%: Welcome to the United States! (And, truth be told, you know more about this great land than most Americans.)

Scroll down to see answers for each question. Also, please let us know what you think about the quiz. The feedback is appreciated.
 
 
 
 
 1. How many stripes are there on the U.S. flag? 
 Correct
13 
 
 2. Who is the chief justice of the Supreme Court today? 
 Correct
John G. Roberts Jr.   
 
 3. In what year was the Constitution written?   
 Correct
1787   
 
 4. Which of these is guaranteed by the First Amendment?   
 Correct
Freedom of the press   
 
 5. How many Supreme Court justices are there?   
 Correct

 
 6. What are the first 10 amendments to the Constitution called?   
 Correct
The Bill of Rights   
 
 7. When was the Declaration of Independence adopted?   
 Correct
July 4, 1776   
 
 8. Which of the following amendments to the Constitution does NOT address or guarantee voting rights? 
 Correct
7th Amendment   
 
 9. What are the 13 original states? 
 Correct
Connecticut, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Rhode Island, Maryland   
 
 10. What do the stripes on the U.S. flag mean?   
 Correct
They represent the 13 original states 
 
 11. What is the introduction to the Constitution called?   
 Correct
The Preamble 
 
 12. How many changes or amendments are there to the Constitution? 
 Correct
27 
 
 13. Which of the following is NOT one of the constitutional requirements to be eligible to become president?   
 Correct
Must have served as a governor   
 
 14. Who selects the Supreme Court justices?   
 Correct
They are appointed by the president. (NOTE: This is the response given on the official United States Citizenship and Immigration Services Web site. The president selects the justices; however, they must be confirmed by the U.S. Senate. If they are rejected by the Senate, then the president must choose a new nominee, who, again, is subject to Senate approval.)   
 
 15. How many representatives are there in Congress?   
 Correct
435   
 
 16. Who said, "Give me liberty or give me death"?   
 Correct
Patrick Henry   
 
 17. Why did the Pilgrims come to America?   
 Correct
For religious freedom   
 
 18. Who has the power to declare war?   
 Correct
Congress 
 
 19. What INS form is used to apply to become a naturalized citizen?
 
 Correct
N-400 "Application for Naturalization"   
 
 20. Which of these contains three rights or freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights?   
 Correct
Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion

Bonus points for anyone who can tell me what the articles of confederation were WITHOUT GOOGLING.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Kosh on June 28, 2006, 11:14:43 am
The Articles of Confederation was the original set of documents that determined how the US would be run. In contrast to the constitution, it gave states a huge amount of power and it had an extremely weak central government. Of course it failed miserably because there was practically no central authority to solve national issues.

And I did this from memory without Googling.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Deepblue on June 28, 2006, 11:23:25 am
What specific powers was it lacking! :p
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 28, 2006, 11:43:55 am
100%

I payed attention in high school history classes. Oh noes.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Scuddie on June 28, 2006, 11:50:38 am
95%

The questions were emberassingly simple.  I found it insulting, as a matter of fact.  But it's no wonder Americans know so little, the education system failed them.  I was taught that it was Washington who made that quote, not Patrick Henry.  Hence the 95%.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Kie99 on June 28, 2006, 12:05:13 pm
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You answered 45% of questions correctly. Here's your rating:

45-60%: Not too bad, but you really need to break out the civics books again -- word is, the INS is looking for an 80 percent score.

But I'm English so meh.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Kosh on June 28, 2006, 12:24:18 pm
What specific powers was it lacking! :p

From what I remember it couldn't tax people (which wasn't good considering that it had rather large debts), it had no standing army, it also had no president or equivelent, and there are a few others I forgot about that basically doomed it to fail. I haven't even seen the term "articles of confederation" since 8th grade.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Polpolion on June 28, 2006, 12:24:37 pm
100% :p


I was suprised I got that one with the N-400 forms right.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Kamikaze on June 28, 2006, 01:01:49 pm
and there are a few others I forgot about that basically doomed it to fail.

The articles of confederation also didn't allow for strong federal control of currency and didn't allow the federal government to establish treaties IIRC.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Corsair on June 28, 2006, 01:29:13 pm
100% suckas. I'm a true blue American.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: MatthewPapa on June 28, 2006, 03:04:14 pm
95%, but only because I had no idea on the INS question


50%


who the hell wants to be an american apart from people too poor to realise that once you're in it isnt much better than when you were in your country?


dude, have u ever even been to America?
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: TrashMan on June 28, 2006, 04:35:53 pm
You answered 45% of questions correctly.


If this was a actual test I would have deliberately answered everything wrong. (or would not come in the fist place) Who wants to live in the U S of A anyway?
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Ulala on June 28, 2006, 04:49:18 pm
75%

Didn't remember a couple of the dates, and didn't know the INS question. I imagine if English were your second language, the test might be a lil more difficult. *shrugs*
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Deepblue on June 28, 2006, 05:12:01 pm
50%


who the hell wants to be an american apart from people too poor to realise that once you're in it isnt much better than when you were in your country?


Pretty much everyone in Mexico apparently.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: pecenipicek on June 28, 2006, 05:35:59 pm
95%, but only because I had no idea on the INS question


50%


who the hell wants to be an american apart from people too poor to realise that once you're in it isnt much better than when you were in your country?


dude, have u ever even been to America?
no. i plan to come to america, but not to the USA. Canada perhaps.
50%


who the hell wants to be an american apart from people too poor to realise that once you're in it isnt much better than when you were in your country?


Pretty much everyone in Mexico apparently.
i bolded the important stuff in the quote.


also, i'm glad that the other resident croat thinks simmilar.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Kosh on June 28, 2006, 06:26:08 pm
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dude, have u ever even been to America?

There are pluses and minuses to living anywhere. Many people view the US as a "Eden" of some kind, but then when they go there they are disappointed to find that, despite its wealth and glamor, it has many big minuses.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 28, 2006, 07:44:23 pm
Folks, you're talking out of your asses. Believe me, I've been to Mexico. Living homeless on the street in the US is vastly better then living in a shantytown outside of TJ. Much the same can be said of a lot of other third-world places.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: pecenipicek on June 28, 2006, 07:46:03 pm
well, a good thing i dont live in a third world place nor do i have any ideas to go out of my country then.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: IceFire on June 28, 2006, 07:52:39 pm
I got 55%.  Not a biggie since I'm not an American and I never took any North American history.  Frankly I find the whole thing to be boring.  Europe is much more interesting.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: pecenipicek on June 28, 2006, 07:57:11 pm
I got 55%.  Not a biggie since I'm not an American and I never took any North American history.  Frankly I find the whole thing to be boring.  Europe is much more interesting.
seconded...


i'm sounding like a me-tooer. :nervous: :p


well, i'll be leaving this thread, cause i value my non-banned status a bit more than arguing about is it better to live in USA or anywhere in Europe... heh.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Ace on June 28, 2006, 08:29:31 pm
100%

Wheres my money Ace?

What part of "put your money where your mouth is" entails me giving you money? All it means is you put it in your mouth where it gets nice and soggy.

Of course why that ever became a popular expression makes absolutely no sense... ;)
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Kosh on June 29, 2006, 12:24:53 am
Folks, you're talking out of your asses. Believe me, I've been to Mexico. Living homeless on the street in the US is vastly better then living in a shantytown outside of TJ. Much the same can be said of a lot of other third-world places.

Then again Mexico DOES suck. Mexico is like most third world countries, but not everywhere in the third world is like that. There actually are some places that are good to live in.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Cobra on June 29, 2006, 12:42:35 am
95% :D

You know what pisses me off? those "This is what you are if you got this percentage" thing. ****ers.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 29, 2006, 10:55:29 am
Why would anyone wanna pass it, thats teh question, ? :shaking:
I wanna be ruled by bush, I mean i can get that at home, damn women spending all my money...
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: ZylonBane on June 29, 2006, 03:19:19 pm
What the hell was that INS form question doing on there? Who but someone who's actually immigrating would know that?
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Rictor on June 29, 2006, 04:00:37 pm
I guess they want all applicants to know which form they're supposed to fill out, so they don't start filling out the welfare forms before being granted citizenship.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: ZylonBane on June 29, 2006, 04:02:44 pm
But the questions on that test were specifically selected for people who are already citizens.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Cannikin on July 06, 2006, 06:51:56 pm
95%. I got the "Who selects the Supreme Court justices?" question wrong. I knew they had to be confirmed by the Senate but apparently that's not the answer they wanted.

I'm a US citizen, but I spent most of my pre-university education (4th through 12th grades) in international schools over in East Asia. I only needed to have one course in US history to know all that.

The actual test itself is apparently not that hard to pass. My grandparents passed it a few months ago, and they can barely put together a single sentence in English (they speak Mandarin Chinese), and never had a single minute of US history instruction beyond reading the sample questions.
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Nuclear1 on July 06, 2006, 07:28:12 pm
100%

I payed attention in high school history classes. Oh noes.

Same here (score and opinion-wise).

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The actual test itself is apparently not that hard to pass. My grandparents passed it a few months ago, and they can barely put together a single sentence in English (they speak Mandarin Chinese), and never had a single minute of US history instruction beyond reading the sample questions.

Exactly. My grandparents come over from Eastern Europe in the years following World War II, and they seemed to do just fine with becoming citizens.

95%, but only because I had no idea on the INS question


50%


who the hell wants to be an american apart from people too poor to realise that once you're in it isnt much better than when you were in your country?


dude, have u ever even been to America?
no. i plan to come to america, but not to the USA. Canada perhaps.

Alright, just so you know: America implies USA, North America means USA, Canada, Mexico, and some of the Caribbean nations. It's almost the same as interchanging Britain and England.

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You answered 45% of questions correctly.


If this was a actual test I would have deliberately answered everything wrong. (or would not come in the fist place) Who wants to live in the U S of A anyway?

People who don't want to live on the war-torn, poverty-ridden half of Europe, perhaps?
Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Bobboau on July 06, 2006, 10:04:12 pm
And LOL at anyone who said that "New Zealand" was an original US state. :lol:
Hey...! Shutup...
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Title: Re: Could you pass the US naturalization test?
Post by: Bobboau on July 06, 2006, 10:06:56 pm
crap, that didn't turn out as well as I thought it would... :/