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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: KillMeNow on November 12, 2001, 09:04:00 am
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i just heard there been another plane crash in newyork - they still notsure wht caused it but the timeing is more than a little suspictios dont you think almsot exactly 2 months after september 11th
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i know i am watching CNN for 45 min now. It was a airbus A300.
Flight number 587
crashed outside queens, NY. 5/10 miles from JFK airport.
heading for the Domician republic.
But i think we shouldn't draw concluseions now about a terrorist action, it could be multiple system failures.
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i know - i hope it is a accident - i heard some people saw fire and debris coming from one of its wings whih suggest accidents but apparently witness reports are very unrelaible - either way though not much consoation for those killed =(
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I saw it too. I'm watching NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, MSNBC. It was outgoing to Santo Domingo. Crashed in the Rockaways. A strip of land in the Queens. Some assume it was a bomb, engine malfunction, and other witnesses saw something black fall from the plane (don't ask me). It exploded and then hit the ground wiping out buildings. I'll keep you posted!
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FAA and FBI claiming there is no indication of terrorism. Witnesses saying one of the wings of the blow blew off before the plane hit. Rudy is trying to keep everyone calm. You wont belive how much smoke there is. NY airports are closed for now, but Bradley Int. (Hartford) is still open.
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i heard most of the states was shut down and they were only keeping afew open for inbound flights that were to far out to turn back
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That's just a rumor. They only shut down Newark, JFK, and LaGuardia. On ABC they're showing pictures of an engine of the plane that landed 3 blocks away from the impact site. They belive this is the engine of the wing that blew off.
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that would certainly suggest accident - i'm just praying that it wasn't terrorists
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Probably FOD...
something managed to get in the engine...
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Ic ouldn't really clarify what they were saying but they think the jet had GE engines. NOT Pratt&Whitney. I think that's what they said but I'm not sure. If it's true this is good news for my dad. My dad works at P&W and for A300 they sell PW4000's P&W claimed they'd been having vibration problems with the PW4000's. So IF the engines were GE that is good. If you want more coverage go to www.abcnews.com ("http://www.abcnews.com") and on the front page go to LIVE video. Then you can see what I am watching.
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They now say at leats 12 houses have been hit. Debris is all over. Fires are raging. More updates in a minute. 400th post!
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just watching this on CNBC... ...
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Lets not jump to conclusions folks....this just might be only an accident. The shutting down of the airports and sealing off of NY are just PRE-CAUTIONS. Nothing more.
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I've been out bowling. Has anything happened since I left? All they're showing is pre-recordings of before.
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We seem to have a bad history of flying here dont we
I havent relly heared anything about it, blame it on school, so someone give me some more detal
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Being the resident new yorker in this place as far as i know besides fabolous_blood, i had enough of these accidents and attacks, i live by a few major bridges that lead into manhattan and queens, they were shut down within 30 mins of the crash. most of the FDNY from my neighborhood went to far rockaway to help out with the fire. i woke up this morning like, oye, hell no i went right back to sleep. by noon, the news casters went back to normal, thee damn media locals care nothing more than RATINGS! I WANT me JERRY springer damn it lol.
lastly yawn..... with the fears of nukes being in the country now spreading, although these claims un founded, i am like goin nuts. im like loosin sleepover this nonsense. i go and work in areas constantly iin possible danger of being blwon up, anthraxed, or worse... microwaved. i should go back to puerto rico on a raft, atleats this way no one gonna blow me up... ummph bin laden "feo" mama-whebo chupa mi bicho, malo ******* . (translated smelly moma-d*ck, suck my balls ******* ) i think i missed a word.
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The news hasn't stopped here in Australia, yet.
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Originally posted by deep_eyes:
Being the resident new yorker in this place as far as i know besides fabolous_blood, i had enough of these accidents and attacks, i live by a few major bridges that lead into manhattan and queens, they were shut down within 30 mins of the crash. most of the FDNY from my neighborhood went to far rockaway to help out with the fire. i woke up this morning like, oye, hell no i went right back to sleep. by noon, the news casters went back to normal, thee damn media locals care nothing more than RATINGS! I WANT me JERRY springer damn it lol.
lastly yawn..... with the fears of nukes being in the country now spreading, although these claims un founded, i am like goin nuts. im like loosin sleepover this nonsense. i go and work in areas constantly iin possible danger of being blwon up, anthraxed, or worse... microwaved. i should go back to puerto rico on a raft, atleats this way no one gonna blow me up... ummph bin laden "feo" mama-whebo chupa mi bicho, malo ******* . (translated smelly moma-d*ck, suck my balls ******* ) i think i missed a word.
Then move to cananada or something, Canada hasent had anything happen to it (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
BTW Why are ppl soo scared of getting nuked, they dont have enough money to buy veicals!! The olny reason they have tanks are because of the war that went on there and they happend to grab some abbandond tanks afterwards!
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Man Zero, you really HAVEN'T been keeping up on your current events have you...
Most of the reliable sources in Russia are stating that Al-Quada has purchased fourteen tactical nuclear devices (the small ones in breifcases so I heard) from a former KGB officer. The only thing that he lacks to use these devices are the key-codes to arm the timers. As far as our sources can tell he still doesn't have them (like, duh... I think we'll know pretty much the instant he gets them, KA-BOOM!)
And Al-Quada has plenty of $$$. One of their major money makers is in drug trafficking, which is a multi-billion dollar industry. Just cause they live in caves and eat sheep-guts doesn't mean they don't have (or can't get) money.
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Originally posted by Dr.Zer0:
Then move to cananada or something, Canada hasent had anything happen to it (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
BTW Why are ppl soo scared of getting nuked, they dont have enough money to buy veicals!! The olny reason they have tanks are because of the war that went on there and they happend to grab some abbandond tanks afterwards!
um, the primary words is this, !!!NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!! It dont matter where i go, hell i may up ending in an area that is a TARGET!?!?!?! (if this becomes a flame issue........sorry but seriously, running isnt going to make me feel any safer than i am now.)
i look at my co-worker, hes a prime example. he's at a point where he is like, ok, he smokes ciggeretes. i'm like, then things is nasty. but he;s like, i'm gonna die someday, its all about how its going to happen. now the kicker is he also goes, only 2 people in the world tell me when i am going to die.
myself, and osama. and he says with pride, IT AINT GONNA BE HIM. he rather smoke himself to death. so i am better off stayin here.
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Originally posted by jonskowitz:
Man Zero, you really HAVEN'T been keeping up on your current events have you...
Most of the reliable sources in Russia are stating that Al-Quada has purchased fourteen tactical nuclear devices (the small ones in breifcases so I heard) from a former KGB officer. The only thing that he lacks to use these devices are the key-codes to arm the timers. As far as our sources can tell he still doesn't have them (like, duh... I think we'll know pretty much the instant he gets them, KA-BOOM!)
And Al-Quada has plenty of $$$. One of their major money makers is in drug trafficking, which is a multi-billion dollar industry. Just cause they live in caves and eat sheep-guts doesn't mean they don't have (or can't get) money.
I heard /read that, although it was saying there were 2 suitcase bombs in a bunker in the Middle East... same thing though. I think a nuclear physicist (or biochemist - not sure) was stopped from going to Afghanistan in Pakistan, too.
Terrifying thought, indeed. But he doesn't have the codes, and it's unlikely he has too many nuclear physicists able to 'crack' the firing triggers. The question is whether he can transport them to a target..... I'd imagine even suitcase nukes are hard to hide, if the authorities are checking for them.
Incidentally, Bin Laden had assets of over £250m , although some were frozen by the Saudi govenrment when he was expelled. He has very high resources, however..... but I don't think he can hide much longer. Soomer or later - if he's not already dead - he'll show his ugly face on another video, and they'll track hime down.
Also, I read a new report that CIA unmanned drones & jets destroyed an Al-Queda building yesterday... don't know how many commanders were in there, though.
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I know I'm gonna offend someone here, but...
Hey Sandwich, how familiar are you with Revelations? If anyone was wondering just how on earth nukes might get used in a war when most people who have them are sensible enough not to use them, then this is a very likely scenario... This guy seem to think it's his religious duty(!) to use them and any other weapons he can get his hands on.
scary monkey, ain't it?
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The Taliban isn't religious at all. they just use it as an excuse and to get followers.
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The Taliban is about as religious as the Roman Catholic Church was during mideval times (and oddly enough, Afghanastan's society is at about the same level as European mideval society (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif))
This means that (like what you said) they see their religion as a means to an end. But what makes Bin Laden's statement so scary is it justifies EVERYTHING he does to his followers, and everyone who shares his faith. After all, if god commands you to use these nukes then it must be all right.