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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Fineus on July 01, 2006, 02:54:55 pm
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Now that is what a Doctor Who episode is all about. I haven't enjoyed the present series as much as Ecclestons - but this part one of two was simply fantastic.
I know we saw a lot of it coming - but damn. Simply great. I can't wait till next week.
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looking forward to getting on bit torrent.
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looking forward to getting on bit torrent.
That's the spirit!
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that ep was sick..... wonder if theyr gonna blast eachother :D
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Brilliant. The Daleks appear to have passed the Time Lords in some ways now seeing as how the Doctor thought a void ship was impossible.
Definitely the best episode of the series.
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I am sorry best episode was still the wwii era episodes, personally.
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Yip can't wait for the series finale, nice to see the return of a Black Dalek.
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And nice to see they've got ruddy great big Plasma Rifle at least, guns that are about as big as the people using them...mmm...real Sci-Fi firepower
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Brilliant. The Daleks appear to have passed the Time Lords in some ways now seeing as how the Doctor thought a void ship was impossible.
Not necessarily.
He seems to state anything on the Time Lord level of technology as being impossible.
Like the power source on the Beast's planet.
Though that's probably because the assumption would be that if anyone had that level of technology they'd've either conquered the universe or taken up the reigns after the demise of the Time Lords.
And it's worth noting that the Void Ship opening looked a ****load like the little spider-orb things Cassandra used in The End Of The World.
Recycled effects FTW.
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I like how they really get the spirit of the original series, cheap sets and special effects and everything. Its almost as if they were trying!
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That was fantastic. Can't wait for next week. I don't think Rose will actually die though, just a hunch.
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Someone dies.
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Oh, it'll be Rose.
But I'm guessing she becomes the Bad Wolf again, then either merges with it permenantly or just lets the energy kill her to keep it from killing the Doctor again.
Because I can't see them killing her off via a shot to the chest (non-sexually), and she kinda has to go out saving the Doctor.
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Oh, it'll be Rose.
But I'm guessing she becomes the Bad Wolf again, then either merges with it permenantly or just lets the energy kill her to keep it from killing the Doctor again.
Because I can't see them killing her off via a shot to the chest (non-sexually), and she kinda has to go out saving the Doctor.
He probably has to boot here into the Tardisy-thing or somesuch, in order to seal / undo the rift between dimensions.
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They actually might not.
C'z having a big hole leading between a bunch of dimensions would open up a ton of story possibilities.
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They certainly appear to be indulging in a bit of Dr Who fan wish fulfillment with that episode. They'll have to be careful that the show doesn't turn into Earth-invasion-of-the week though.
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They actually might not.
C'z having a big hole leading between a bunch of dimensions would open up a ton of story possibilities.
Yes, like alternate versions of London!
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C'z having a big hole leading between a bunch of dimensions would open up a ton of story possibilities.
Yeah.. like going to another dimension and bringing another Rose Tyler back.
Oooh... Drama!
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Did you not see DR Who confidential on BBC3 sstraight after? They all blap each other, after the Cybermen propose a C-Men D-lek alliance. (extrapolated from clips)
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"blap"?
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Sorry that was a london coloquialism, It means shoot. :yes:
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The story is totally retarded, I'm sorry but it's just completely, ridiclously crap. Russel T(wat) Davies put it pretty well in the confidential; "It's like something an 8 year old would come up with."
Yes Russel, yes it is.
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That's always been the beauty of the show, though. From when I was an 8-year-old watching the Saltshakers of Doom. :p
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The story is totally retarded, I'm sorry but it's just completely, ridiclously crap.
Retarded? possibly. Crap? almost certainly. Fun? definitely. :nod:
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The story is totally retarded, I'm sorry but it's just completely, ridiclously crap. Russel T(wat) Davies put it pretty well in the confidential; "It's like something an 8 year old would come up with."
Yes Russel, yes it is.
Still, Daleks vs Cybermen, eh?
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The Eastenders bit was sheer class. The new Cybermen look like something out of C-3PO's midnight fantasies and Daleks will always = awesome.
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The black one was a nice touch.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/07_july/05/agyeman2.shtml
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/07_july/05/agyeman2.shtml
Doesn't sound too bad. The character didn't seem as crappy as Rose.
See this is the problem I have with the current companion, I dislike Rose quite a lot. I think billie Piper is a pretty good actor and pulls of the part well (surprisingly) but the character of Rose sucks to the max, an annoying and selfish stupid person. Hate hate hate.
I cheered when I found out Rose was being written out of it and I hope for a very messy and painful death.
Oh also, if the TARDIS "saves the day" in the episode on Saturday, that's it. I'm not watching Doctor Who anymore.
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i have to say i didn't think rose was that bad, better than any other with the exceptions of Sarah jane smith, Ace and Cpt Jack. I like her because they built up a proper character with a family and whatnot but i do agree that alot of the times she is abit *****y.
I am confused about her leaving wether she will die, because if you read the an interview on the BBC website both her and Russell T davis said that the door would be open for her to come back.
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Oooh. She could get turned into a Cyberman....
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blah stop swapping people! ffs it sucks!
SG1 lasted for almost 8 seasons with same people playing the parts they swap them every week on dr who GHEY
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Technically, SG1 lasted 5 whole seasons before they swapped out Jackson for Quinn.
Then another 2 with the original cast once he came back.
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i have to say i didn't think rose was that bad, better than any other with the exceptions of Sarah jane smith, Ace and Cpt Jack. I like her because they built up a proper character with a family and whatnot but i do agree that alot of the times she is abit *****y.
I am confused about her leaving wether she will die, because if you read the an interview on the BBC website both her and Russell T davis said that the door would be open for her to come back.
But the opening piece of dialogue was a monologue of Rose saying something along the lines of "Blah blah Earth, this is where i was born and it's also where I died blah blah no one cares."
Although if she's dead how can she tell us? RUSSEEEEEEEEEEEEELL!!!!!
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i have to say i didn't think rose was that bad, better than any other with the exceptions of Sarah jane smith, Ace and Cpt Jack. I like her because they built up a proper character with a family and whatnot but i do agree that alot of the times she is abit *****y.
I am confused about her leaving wether she will die, because if you read the an interview on the BBC website both her and Russell T davis said that the door would be open for her to come back.
But the opening piece of dialogue was a monologue of Rose saying something along the lines of "Blah blah Earth, this is where i was born and it's also where I died blah blah no one cares."
Although if she's dead how can she tell us? RUSSEEEEEEEEEEEEELL!!!!!
Maybe she's doing a Jesus.
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The Daleks were all dead too.
ZOMG, DALEKS!
Where the TARDIS is involved, it's really never cut and dried.
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Dead in that dimension. But since we're now apparently travelling in time, space and different dimensions I suppose anything is possible.
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Perhaps there shall be a bunch of parallel Roses.
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Dead in that dimension. But since we're now apparently travelling in time, space and different dimensions I suppose anything is possible.
I took the Daleks to be akin to the Time Lords, in that they'd consolidated themselves across multiple dimensions.
And the Void Ship wasn't so much the Daleks attempt to break through into another dimension, but a plan to make sure that even if they lost the Time War they'd still have ships in the Void ready to pop out at random times in random dimensions with all the technology and resources they'd need to start rebuilding the Dalek Empire.
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You can't kill of the Daleks because it isn't Dr who without them, its like one of the producers(or someone on the Drwho team) said on the confidential prog, without the daleks it would be like morky without mindy, blackadder without baldrick, some matter how many times they lose there fleets and planets they will come back, Plus as the doc said a void ship rests in the space between dimesions and could survive the end on universe and the begining of a new one. I think these daleks are form our universe because in one trailer the Black dalek seems to take i bit of a hissy fit when rose say's she killed the Emp.
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Perhaps there shall be a bunch of parallel Roses.
Dog Rose to the rescue!
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Perhaps there shall be a bunch of parallel Roses.
Dog Rose to the rescue!
She's looking a bit ruff, though.
I'll get me coat
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I'm in the US so i haven't watched any of this series yet. I did watch all of series 1 - i find tenant to be a bit better than eccleston, although most others will disagree. I didn't like the direction dr. who took with colin baker onward - less serious, more comedic... i much prefer tom baker style and even early peter davidson to say... the 7th doctor, whatever his name was, sly something. I feel this episode, while still too over the top for me, has some of the elements that made Dr Who cool in the first place.
I wish the cyberman voice didn't sound like such a prick tho.. they were more menacing back in the days when adric was killing them with his gold star...
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I know what you mean, i keep expecting the C-Men to call the Doctor "Dave"....
(any fools and horses fans will get it, dont worry merry cans)
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So they've picked that black technician girl as the replacement for Billie Piper. Erm? Why? Apparently she impressed them with her acting ability during filming. What? Smiling and looking a like a mind controlled zombie? Hardly King-****ing-Lear. With that kind of attitude towards casting I don't know why they didn't just grab someone from the nearest bus stop.
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Thats what the doc does generally right? Whe one partenr expires/retires he grabs the nearest bit of fluff he can find, Look at that old cavegirl one, i would as well mind you.... 8)
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I'm not disagreeing with that but they could have - you know - planned ahead? Inserted someone decent into the episode to become the new bit of fluff? I mean Jesus. Talk about winging it.
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Point taken, on another note, How do you think Roses mum will react, and will the doc keep his testicles when she finds out?
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Let's hope she dies with her.
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Not a fan then Fiona? :D
I reckon the munter from eastenders whos in charge of Torchwood would probably be better than the black girl...
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Some teasers are up on the website. http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/ Absolutely fantastic wallpaper as well.
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Not a fan then Fiona? :D
I reckon the munter from eastenders whos in charge of Torchwood would probably be better than the black girl...
Not in the slightest, she needs more slaps than even Rose does, it's just a good job she's not in every episode so I don't have to endure her all the time.
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At least stacey slater isnt on it, Moody biatch would get thrown to the daleks mid-timeshift.......
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Some teasers are up on the website. http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/ Absolutely fantastic wallpaper as well.
I wish I could have written the episode.
"TOGETHER WE COULD UPGRADE THE UNIVERSE.."
".. YOU PROPOSE AN .. ALLIANCE?"
".. NO!" *zap*
It's hilarious when I visualise it.
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"Together we could upgrade the universe"
"You propose...an alliance?"
"No, tech support at PC World is hiring"
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Not long now? Excited? No? Didn't think so.
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I am :p
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Hrmpph. going to bloody miss it thanks to dinner out going.
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Well, that was pretty ****ing good.
I was starting to expect it was all a big scam. And apparently I know enough Norwegian to have twigged to the name of the Bad Wolf Bay right off.
I guessed the Genesis Ark would be a prison, but I thought Davros would be inside - even after it was made clear these Daleks followed the Emperor.
And it was ****ing nice to see the Black Dalek do the smart thing and use time-travel to retreat.
Excellent episode.
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Yeah, I gotta say I was pleased to see a Dalek survive. I kind of appreciate the fact they showed that rather than explain "oh so that's how one got away!" later on..
..Billie Piper pulled out some good solid crying at the end. Glad she made it... sort of. That said - there is one thought - if there's a parellel universe then surely there's a parallel Doctor to go with it. Heck - if they were so inclined they could say the Time Lords won the Time War and were happy and well in that Universe which is why the Daleks didn't try to overthrow that Earth or something.
One other thing... why were the Cybermen fighting alongside the humans from the parallel dimension? I thought they'd be busy trying to Cyberfy them rather than forming an alliance.
For all that though - a great end to the season.
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..Billie Piper pulled out some good solid crying at the end. Glad she made it... sort of. That said - there is one thought - if there's a parellel universe then surely there's a parallel Doctor to go with it.
I think it's made clear that the Time Lords are beyond time and space quite a few times.
Also I thought the episode was better than I thought it would be, not happy that Rose and Co. survived though, would have been much better if they had all got killed messily.
The black Dalek pissed off, which means they'll pop back some other time. "LOL I HAEV CLONEZORED TEH DALEKS LOLOLO EXTERMINATE AM I RITE?"
TARDIS didn't save the day, "yay".
In closing, I'll watch the next series, but Catherine Tate can piss off. She's the most unfunny person in the world.
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Yeah, Tate blows.
But the Cybermen weren't fighting with the humans, they were fighting the Daleks and ignoring the humans. Then the humans started attacking the Daleks too.
Oh and I like the idea that the Black Dalek was black as a way of differentiating which Daleks had time-travel technology onboard and which didn't.
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WOW that was epic, the SFX, music, brillant acting British drama at its best! and finally Daleks that can take the piss of the cybermen, i thought it was funny when the BD said that the extermination on the Cybermen was pest control, i think the cybermen fighting with the humans was part of the surrender that the doctor did. Tell you what its the first time ever a cyberman has cried!!!! and the first cyberfemale on screen(with female voice). I do have one question the Bdalek refers to the cybermen as primitive version, i wonder if the Cybermen of our universe will show up.
Edit the sink plungers were used again! that was so funny!! they toasted him!
Class :D
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Nah, when they said 'primitive cybernetic organism' they just meant that their technology was ****e compared to that of the Daleks.
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Hah... yeah that first meeting was great stuff, especially the part where the Dalek tells the Cybermen that they are inferior in every way but one; Dying. :D
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Glad BP is'nt coming back, Un-Glad about lack of red-stuff involved in her passing.
TATE=Nonononono........
Doc = wuss, get over it, get on the next bit of skirt. I find it hard to elieve that if the Doc and Rose can hold onto something to avoid major suckage into the void, then why didnt any cyber-monkies or Dahlex just "hold onto something too"?
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What's the Dalek going to hold on with?
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His suckery thing? That thing seems pretty powerful.
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Dahlex suckae = most powerful suckage in universe second only to heather brooke. :drevil:
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I find it hard to elieve that if the Doc and Rose can hold onto something to avoid major suckage into the void, then why didnt any cyber-monkies or Dahlex just "hold onto something too"?
As the Doctor explained the Daleks had lived in the void while hiding during the time war. The cybermen took 3 years to cross over from Pete's world to Earth. Both were saturated compared to the Doctor, Rose or any of the other humans. Notice that the speed Rose was sucked towards the portal at was much lower (Although the fact that the portal was probably closing at that point probably would have helped).
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I believe thats hardly relevant or Roses "dad" would have been sucked back as well whilst saving her.
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It's Dr. Who! You're searching for rationality? :eek:
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Nope, just fluid corelation, Rationality only spanks out when the re-tardis is involved :p
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I believe thats hardly relevant or Roses "dad" would have been sucked back as well whilst saving her.
He'd only travelled through a couple times. He was barely covered in the stuff compared with the Daleks or Cybermen. Besides the portal was starting to close. It's pull on him would have been much less than it was on Rose.
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Techno-babble FTW! :D
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Techno-babble FTW! :D
K when you put it like that i'm sold........ I'm just glad theres not a universe with two billie pipers in it..