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Title: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 12, 2006, 11:58:57 pm

Yup you guessed it... another wc model LOL

Using this design art for Privateer 3
(http://www.wcnews.com/newestshots/thumb/wco10t.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/fighter3.jpg)
still working on texturing.

to me it screams WC 2Dralthi... (the wings, the central cockpit, the two side hulls and the two wings) (http://www.wcnews.com/ships/images/wc2drakhri.jpg)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Nuke on July 13, 2006, 03:20:11 pm

there was a privateer 3?

good work though

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 13, 2006, 06:31:07 pm

Thanks, I still need to do detail touch up work on it.

Nope, there was several artist renderings for P3 but the game alone with Private Online (or was that wing commander online) never made it.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Nuke on July 13, 2006, 07:26:42 pm

i guess thats where freespace's iron grip on space sims clinched, rendering anything else obsolete :D

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 13, 2006, 09:29:01 pm

....or killed off space sims  *ducks and runs*  :drevil:

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Nuke on July 14, 2006, 03:30:02 am

its true, it killed them cause of the fact noone could do better. least till the scp came along.  who would buy a space sim unless it could beat the scp?

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 14, 2006, 04:11:37 am

course plus the fact, things like joysticks are no longer the norm.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 14, 2006, 04:13:43 am

*gets down on knees and looks up at the sky*

<overly dramatic> WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?  Oh whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, SPACE-SIMS COME BACK!!!   I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!<overly dramatic>





I miss Wing commander 3/4 and starlancer etc, dammit...........

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Flipside on July 14, 2006, 01:02:16 pm

Quote from: Scooby_Doo on July 13, 2006, 09:29:01 pm

....or killed off space sims  *ducks and runs*  :drevil:

Bad Scooby! :lol:

Freespace 2 didn't kill off Space Sims, no matter how much certain elements would love to believe, even software developers admitted it was almost impossible to compete with Franchises such as Star Wars, it was that and the slow demise of Joystick compatible games that contributed far more to the demise than the pre-release claims of Volition. There's hardly a game out there that doesn't oversell itself pre-release, so why should one incident of it be blamed for the death of an entire genre? Just look at the NFL games and their pre-release screenshots for evidence, they didn't kill off the Sports games genre by releasing them :p

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 14, 2006, 02:46:36 pm

I think it's more Doom-clones killed off space sims...Easy to produce, needs no joystick, easy to play (not real thought involved just twitch reaction), storyline, who needs a storyline?

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Flipside on July 14, 2006, 08:20:01 pm

Yeah, good point, the rise of the FPS probably played a massive role in it too, I'm actually hoping we will soon be seeing an end to the 'rinse-repeat' method of FPS games, the genre really is starting to stagger now.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 15, 2006, 01:57:47 am

Not sure if i'm more remmenissing or what but I'd like to see some of those kings quest/space quest/whats her name style games. 


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/fighter4.jpg)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: foolfromhell on July 15, 2006, 05:25:15 pm

Quote from: Flipside on July 14, 2006, 08:20:01 pm

Yeah, good point, the rise of the FPS probably played a massive role in it too, I'm actually hoping we will soon be seeing an end to the 'rinse-repeat' method of FPS games, the genre really is starting to stagger now.

And the rise of Online Play. Theres a new MMO that comes out every month.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 16, 2006, 08:23:11 pm

grrrr, pcs doesn't want to convert it, just freezes up.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: WeatherOp on July 16, 2006, 10:08:24 pm

Those top spikes do not fit in at all, it really messes up the look of the model, and really look pasted on. Pull them off and you have a good lookin ship. :yes:

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 17, 2006, 12:30:22 am

Very, very nice. I don't mind the spikes either, at least from this angle.

It does lack that realistic look, though. Maybe add more greebles, and make the sharp polygonal edges more complex.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Alan Bolte on July 17, 2006, 01:57:56 am

Roomiest cockpit I've ever seen.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Getter Robo G on July 17, 2006, 02:59:03 am

Second that, how about shrinking ship or enlarging pilot?

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 17, 2006, 06:44:19 pm

Three variants, added shadows:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/fighter5.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/fighter6.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/fighter7.jpg)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 18, 2006, 03:46:41 pm

Which one do you like better and any other suggestions before I convert?

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Wanderer on July 18, 2006, 04:00:55 pm

I like the middle one the most.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: achtung on July 19, 2006, 09:28:27 pm

Yeah, middle looks good to me as well.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 19, 2006, 10:45:59 pm

Middle one FTW!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Solatar on July 19, 2006, 11:06:27 pm

Middle one, but replace those spikes with some sort of gun.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 23, 2006, 01:51:33 am

or fit a gun under the spikes.
sort of like this:
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1057/fighter6ab6.jpg)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Getter Robo G on July 23, 2006, 10:40:12 am

and add a third for the one under the cockpit...

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 23, 2006, 04:37:44 pm

Theres actually 2x2 gun slots (both located between the engine pods.)

last image shows the guns
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/fighter8.jpg)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 23, 2006, 04:41:33 pm

Oh, .... what about missile bays?

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 23, 2006, 05:36:27 pm

Missile banks are somewheres on the dagger thats under the cockpit, I don't really have a texture for them.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 23, 2006, 05:58:57 pm

oh, ok
BTW, I suggest giving that the Ulysses' agility and the Perseus' speed.
Just my 2 cents.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 23, 2006, 06:21:14 pm

Actually I kinda have my heart set for something similar to a Dralthi in terms of performance... somewheres inbetween my rapier/bloodfang and the slower goran so approx 100m/s and agility of something like 3.5, 3, 3.5.   

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 23, 2006, 07:23:46 pm

ah, BTW where can I get your ships?
I can't find them anywhere........

MORE MSpaint MADNESS!!!!!!
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3794/fighter6ab1.jpg)
(yes, those are Avenger T2's and Prometheus's.....)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 23, 2006, 08:05:12 pm

You can find everything here: (I hope  :nervous: )
http://www.crius.net/zone/showthread.php?p=313311#post313311 (http://www.crius.net/zone/showthread.php?p=313311#post313311)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 23, 2006, 08:12:56 pm

Damn! Your models pwn.
*clicks download button until finger falls off*

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 23, 2006, 09:26:30 pm

Please note, there is one that has a readme (don't remember which one off-hand, i think gothhek?) you made need to use the ships.tbl file, this deletes most of the terran/vas fighters to make room for mine (otherwise you'll get the above max ship limit error).  Best to put my stuff in a mod folder that way it won't interfer with normal fs2.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 23, 2006, 09:46:45 pm

Or, I could use the Inferno build?
*shrug*
I'll put it in a mod regardless.
Thanks for warning me!

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 26, 2006, 01:40:06 am

I still need to do shinemaps and glowmaps but....

Codename: KF-26 Drakthi    (note not Dralthi, just very similar)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/dakthi-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/drakthi-2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/drakthi-3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/drakthi-4.jpg)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 26, 2006, 01:28:26 pm

Veeeeeeerrrrrrrry nice!
Looking forward to using this ingame! ;)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: KennyRogers on July 26, 2006, 11:00:14 pm

 :nod: Very nice! I like that a lot. The only thing I could think of changing would be those fins. If they were a different shape that maybe sloped towards the back, while maintaining a low profile it would give it a very clean and crisp look. The way they are now is cool, but they don't fit the straight-line design of the main hull, and they look as if they'd be very dellicate.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 27, 2006, 04:21:13 am

Can anyone dig out the Kilrathi Design philosophy from the Victory streak, I'm a hundred percent sure that this fighter fits it. :D

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 31, 2006, 01:17:31 am

Her she is:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27629852/Drakthi.rar.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/27629852/Drakthi.rar.html)

simply follow the same instructions as the previous ships (the additional.vp is needed)

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 31, 2006, 03:34:02 am

sweet! *d/ls*

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: bizzybody on August 25, 2006, 08:49:21 pm

Nice. But the cockpit just looks too farking big, more like it wants side by side seating like an F-111.

Narrowing up the canopy, sloping its top down so its line breaks from the top uf the hull, and lopping a couple chunks off the hull either side of the canopy to give it more of a fighter-ish looking nose would vastly improve its looks, IMHO.

And the top blades curviness just doesn't fit with the sharp edges of the rest of it. They sorta look like someone stuck huge bull's horns on the hood of a 1976 Cadillac Eldorado. ;) Making them angular would cut a bunch off the poly count, giving you room for slightly more complexity in the cockpit area.

Title: Re: Unnamed fighter.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 30, 2006, 06:18:02 am

This is 100% Kilrathi lookin perfection, :nod:
I applaud the look/..