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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: foolfromhell on July 13, 2006, 06:27:39 am

Title: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: foolfromhell on July 13, 2006, 06:27:39 am
I have looked all over the manual. I cant figure out how to add more ships to a Wing. I have 4 Wings, Alpha, Beta, Delta, and Gamma. But each Wing has only 1 ship. Whats the deal? How to add more ships?
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 13, 2006, 06:42:21 am
Before forming a wing, select 4 fighters then press CTRL + W -> enter a name then press OK.


Are you sure you've read the freddocs and completed the tutorial?



(j/k  and to beam free just unplug the pc I'M JOKING !!!!  :nervous: :eek2:)
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: foolfromhell on July 13, 2006, 06:50:28 am
Before forming a wing, select 4 fighters then press CTRL + W -> enter a name then press OK.


Are you sure you've read the freddocs and completed the tutorial?



(j/k  and to beam free just unplug the pc I'M JOKING !!!!  :nervous: :eek2:)
Yep. completed all the tutorials and walkthroughs. Meaning, I read that HTML document and did the practice mission. But it wasnt completed since I couldnt form Wings.
beam-free ?
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 13, 2006, 06:55:22 am
NONONONONO!!!  Dont touvch your plug, :doh:
If you finished the tutorial you sould know that by fs2 retail default, the keys on the capships beam switch are turned to off. to get the little pilot to turn the key to "on you need to add a SEXP in the events editor that read.

when>true>beam-free-all.



ZOMG i'm teaching, i'm teaching !!!!
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: foolfromhell on July 13, 2006, 07:12:30 am
Did that, but it says in "Objectives" in-game "beam-free-all"
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 13, 2006, 07:22:53 am
Erk, No, you go to the events editor (press shift + E in fred 2,
click on new event..
It should say


WHEN
{>True
  {>do something here i forget

Aggg, i cant type all that put in ascii, can someone else take this please..
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: Wanderer on July 13, 2006, 08:33:13 am
With FRED Open you can also simply select the beam-free-all from

Editors/Mission Specs/All Ships Beam-Freed By Default

Or (with FRED Open or retail FRED) go via Sexps (Editors/Events), select New Event, expand the newly created sexp and right-click on 'true', select Replace Operator/Logical/has-time-elapsed and insert below it the mission time when you want beams to be freed. Then right-click on the 'do-nothing' and select Replace operator/Change/Beams and Turrets/beam-free-all. Or just use the 'true' instead of 'has-time-elapsed'
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: foolfromhell on July 13, 2006, 09:30:55 am
With FRED Open you can also simply select the beam-free-all from

Editors/Mission Specs/All Ships Beam-Freed By Default

Or (with FRED Open or retail FRED) go via Sexps (Editors/Events), select New Event, expand the newly created sexp and right-click on 'true', select Replace Operator/Logical/has-time-elapsed and insert below it the mission time when you want beams to be freed. Then right-click on the 'do-nothing' and select Replace operator/Change/Beams and Turrets/beam-free-all. Or just use the 'true' instead of 'has-time-elapsed'

Also, in the Replace Operator/Change/Beams and Turrets/beam-free-all, I dont have a Beams and Turrets subsection, and the beam-free-all is grayed out
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 13, 2006, 09:39:04 am
You need to add a capital ship t the msision before fRed 2 will allow certain events to be implememnted.
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: Wanderer on July 13, 2006, 09:42:26 am
Actually i think it just needs aother ship (another fighter for example) in addition to the player ship... so try adding another ship and check if the beam-free-all is now available
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: Nuclear1 on July 13, 2006, 10:06:25 am
Then right-click on the 'do-nothing' and select Replace operator/Change/Beams and Turrets/beam-free-all.

Retail FRED doesn't have the subsections under Change. That was a SCP feature intended to make it easier than scrolling for a long time looking for the intended SEXP.

The event triggering the BFA should look like this:

-when
--has-time-elapsed
---0
--beam-free-all
---< Capital Ship Name >

All you need is two ships in the mission (the player and another) to get most of the SEXPs to become available.
Title: Re: Still figuring out FRED. How to add more ships to Wings?
Post by: karajorma on July 13, 2006, 01:31:05 pm
I have looked all over the manual. I cant figure out how to add more ships to a Wing. I have 4 Wings, Alpha, Beta, Delta, and Gamma. But each Wing has only 1 ship. Whats the deal? How to add more ships?

As said earlier you have to select all the ships you want to put into a wing. You can do that by holding down shift as you select the ships or by simply dragging a box around them with your mouse.

Then when you click on the Form Wing button you'll get all the ships added to the wing.