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Title: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on July 16, 2006, 04:40:19 pm
As a "prequel" to my Triton container carrier, lets go retro and make a Cronus container carrier! But mind you these containers are much smaller, so you're only getting 3 fighters (or small bombers) in there. But on the plus side, there's fun subobject animations with the doors.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/cronushangarclosed.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/cronushanger.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/insidehangar.jpg)

So thoughts about this guy?
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Sarafan on July 16, 2006, 04:51:41 pm
Nice! :yes:

How many fighter does it carry? 6?
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Mefustae on July 16, 2006, 04:53:12 pm
That is so. cool.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Getter Robo G on July 16, 2006, 05:00:05 pm
Let me guess...

This is in homage to the "6 pack"?

- Drink Bosch Beer!
But remember, friends do not let friends design ships drunk!

(A message from the Bosch Beer Company)
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on July 16, 2006, 05:02:22 pm
I said it carries 3 fighters in my first post. :p
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: TrashMan on July 16, 2006, 05:15:59 pm
Why not make it thicker? Who sez it has to be as slim as the Chronos?
that way it could launch 6 fighters - 3 from each side :D
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Sarafan on July 16, 2006, 05:28:38 pm
I know but by the last picture it seems that it has capacity for 6.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on July 17, 2006, 09:38:59 am
Trashman: Not a bad idea... ;)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/biggerhangar.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/sixdockingports.jpg)
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 17, 2006, 10:20:30 am
So the fighter/bombers would enter the mission docked to this? V cool, i got images of Slancer, you know the light carriers with fighters-snapping off and fighting from the get-go, no launch hassle just *pop* and go.......
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Gregster2k on July 17, 2006, 11:38:02 am
:D :D :D I LOVE IT!

FINALLY!!! A ship that can actually realistically be a "not so well off" fighter group's "home carrier". =D I could see this type of Chronos being used by mercenary or pirate groups well into and through the 2367's.

(Or even by GTVI. The Chronos is already small enough to be a stealth carrier. Paint a Chronos black and launch Pegasus stealth fighters from it, XD.)

You should finish both versions of this (both wide and small) they both look equally impressive. :yes:

Ingenious!

What next, cargo containers that are in fact missile launchers? Or a "cargo container" that adds wide-swept "wings" to the Chronos that contain more weapons (or extra engines to increase the ship's speed)? XD You've got my mind racing with ideas, man. I eagerly await what you come up with next :D
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Shade on July 17, 2006, 11:50:43 am
Using doors like that gave me an idea. How about also having a perfectly normal looking, entirely inconspicuous container, no control tower or anything, with the same doors and inside arrangement?

Would be perfect for spec-ops missions as you could sneak a full wing in behind enemy lines on a civvy ship, then have them appear out of nowhere. Or for ambusing elusive capships, just lay out a juicy looking depot with no apparent protection, then dump a few such containers full of fighters and bombers inthere, wait for the inevitable Orion to make an attack run, and pounce. Oh, the possibilities...
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Gregster2k on July 17, 2006, 11:59:15 am
Mmmm...i'd imagine though that GTVA laws would require "fighterbay containers" to make their purpose obvious by physical design. Pirate groups, NTF, or GTVI (since they can break the rules, lol) would probably end up using more completely inconspicuous (and highly illegal/expensive) fighter-containers.

Legally approved mercenary groups would probably use the current Axem designs --- more-obviously-modified-looking containers. lol, i could go on all day about the possibilities myself :D
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Starman01 on July 17, 2006, 12:06:33 pm
Ì think you should change the title of this thread. Actually, this is a very good and unique idea you made here, and nothing silly :)
It would be a cheap way for any militia forces bringing in fighter crafts into outer rim system when no destroyer/real carrier is available.
Using rather old ships like the cronos for retrofitting sounds also logic (cheaper than building new ones).

What I a little dislike is the bridge-like structure on top of the hangar-container. I would like to have it without it, but it's your design and
decision after all. I'm curious to see it finally textured, keep it up :)
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Mobius on July 17, 2006, 12:17:35 pm
Fighters and bombers should be docked with it and then launched...
It wouldn't work if this carrier jumps in during the mission!

These carriers looks like the Chronos(Haha!) as well as some Starlancer carriers and the Unknown Destroyer in Colony Wars:Vengeance.
Very cool.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Gregster2k on July 17, 2006, 12:19:51 pm
It IS a Chronos, LOL. I love this design so much I can't stop thinking of ideas for it. XD The Chronos has a lot of promise as a multipurpose civilian ship.

I would gladly use this type of ship as a home base if it were all I could afford. I mean, in the 2367's, The Chronos is OLD -- surely inexpensive. So, if I were a mercenary group squad leader, and I wanted a cheap, affordable ship that could transport my fighter wing around the star systems we were hired to patrol, and allow them to be launched inside subspace if need be, I would surely buy this sucker. The only problem with such a thing is that the fighters patrolling it would be its only defense.

Which is why I suggested weapons-platform Chronos containers, to compliment the fighterbay designs. Get three Chronos freighters with two weaponsplatform containers and one "fat" 6-fighter fighterbay container like Axem's second design, and you've got yourself a nice entry-level mercenary group.

Or instead of 6 fighterbays on one fat container, could use the rest of that space for just two Hercules and then use the rest of that space for flak turrets (at least two). Then you have yourself a makeshift Aeolus with fighter escort that seats two fighter pilots and whatever crew fits inside the Chronos.

This trend of "making freighters do other things" is quite fun :)
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on July 17, 2006, 12:37:37 pm
Shade: Nice idea. I take the bridge tower off of the thin one and on the outside give it the same textures as the Chronus' container. Perfect for ambushes. ;)

Starman01: The idea may not be silly, but I find it kinda funny using containers as makeshift hangars.

I may take out the bridge tower. Originally it was intended to communicate with the fighters for general flight commands and stuff. But that could all be done inside the Cronus. I'll probably redesign it a bit, maybe just have radar and communications stuff on top.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Sarafan on July 17, 2006, 12:38:53 pm
Please do a vasudan version of it!!!!!!!!

For covert ops (with GTVI), the container should have some special shielding to protect against detection and some extra armor if possible.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Xeandra on July 17, 2006, 03:41:16 pm
Hmm... A pirate carrier.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Gregster2k on July 17, 2006, 05:57:18 pm
Please do a vasudan version of it!!!!!!!!

For covert ops (with GTVI), the container should have some special shielding to protect against detection and some extra armor if possible.

OMFG, you just gave me ANOTHER nutty idea: A Chronos AWACS attachment XD XD XD Perfect for if you can't afford the real Charybdis! XD
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 17, 2006, 08:52:52 pm
Hmmm, howzabout a Chronos beam attachment?
*evil grin*
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: darkship on July 17, 2006, 11:27:13 pm
wow

freespace freighters are really versatile eh  :lol:
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Gregster2k on July 17, 2006, 11:55:26 pm
It's like Legos, only in space.

Oooh, now there's an idea...
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Solatar on July 18, 2006, 12:18:28 am
This one better actually get finished.  :p

Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 18, 2006, 12:30:12 am
It's like Legos, only in space.

Oooh, now there's an idea...
Heh.
Who knew, that the wildest ideas usually have the coolest results?
I'd love to see this ingame.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Raptor on July 18, 2006, 02:33:18 am
This, just like the Triton Hanger Module, is a really cool idea.  Keep going! :nod: :yes:

I do have one comment/suggestion though... Maybe make a version for a double sized Chronos?  Since nearly all freighters should be twice the size they are ATM IMHO,  you might get an entire squadron (12 fighters) in one of those... ;7

And I really like the idea of the 'disgiused' hanger pod... :drevil:
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Unknown Target on July 18, 2006, 05:01:28 am
Did the Triton hangar module ever get put in-game, anyway? But yea, very cool :)
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Black Wolf on July 18, 2006, 05:22:57 am
It isnh't textured yet AFAIK. I UV Mapped it, more or less, but it's an incredibly complex model and the texturing very difficult.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 18, 2006, 05:27:15 am
Very Hi-def? not just a case of square uv-mapping the container tex onto it then adding smaller details?
Can someone show me a pic i cant seem to find one through the search for some fraKKIn reasson.......
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 18, 2006, 01:13:50 pm
Jeez, I really want both of these now! :D
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Black Wolf on July 18, 2006, 06:45:54 pm
Very Hi-def? not just a case of square uv-mapping the container tex onto it then adding smaller details?

It's nearly 10000 tris. You don't square map anything onto it if you want it to look good.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Mars on July 18, 2006, 07:50:04 pm
Don't suppose the Triton carrier will ever be finished?

:nervous:

I know you weren't planning on finishing it Axem but try as I might, my modding skills end at changing gun postitions


God damn...
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on July 18, 2006, 07:54:34 pm
Colonel Dekker: Look down a few threads, specifically the one called "A "Carrier"". There should be some pics of it in there.

Mars: Look at BW's posts above you. ;)

I'm really happy to see progress being made on that. :)
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Bobboau on July 18, 2006, 09:41:54 pm
there are other freighters ya'know
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on July 18, 2006, 09:51:25 pm
Well this is my second freighter carrier. :p Should I do ones for the rest of them? I had an idea for ones for the GVFr Bes and GTFr Poseidon. Width is an issue there, so I thought of them having a vertical configuration. So the fighters would be docked perpendicular, pointing down. Making the container seem inconspicuous might be a bit harder in those circumstances. (Yay for using large words)
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Getter Robo G on July 20, 2006, 05:36:20 pm
I really thought the 6pack idea was cool, make 2 sections 3 facing each side...

  Anyway Axem, no one picked up your fighter for Trek texturing (The Aion). Looks like I will have to mangle it (fair warning...  ;) )... OUT!
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on July 20, 2006, 05:56:32 pm
My fighter...?  :wtf:

I've made a fighter before, but never shown it off publically or named it Aion. Methinks you have me confused with someone else.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Getter Robo G on July 20, 2006, 06:54:07 pm
Er, I will have to check GameWarden again... Could have sworn this was yours...

Apologies to owner. (Axem has erroneously been credited by me on Trek sites..)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/aion.jpg
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on July 20, 2006, 07:08:49 pm
Looks like it was DaBrain who made it.

http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12482&postcount=78
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Getter Robo G on July 21, 2006, 12:34:51 pm
In his best Pinky voice: "Da, sorry Brain!"  "Narf!"

Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: T-Man on July 25, 2006, 05:58:31 am
Hmm... A pirate carrier.

Seconded. It's got pirates/special operations plastered all over it!

This is a brilliant idea Axem, its not silly, its genius! I bet alot of campains will use these. Please do release them.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 25, 2006, 10:40:45 am
Now..........If possible, Or at least get Barneys space adventure out soon :lol:
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2006, 10:44:58 am
As soon as the texturing is done release it, but let people stew for a while :P
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: MetalDestroyer on July 28, 2006, 12:51:03 am
Impressive work ^^. It will be good if we can use this on certain mission like infiltrating into enemy territory, and, made a massive deployment of this ship. I can't imagine how good the mission could be.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: BS403 on August 06, 2006, 07:33:48 am
It looks amazing

I was just wondering if you have any updates?
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on August 06, 2006, 10:16:31 am
Nothing large. The control tower got taken away so a docking hatch could be put in for boarding/resupplying.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/TDMTAC.jpg)
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Mars on August 06, 2006, 06:43:34 pm
I could see special ops using these, sort of a SEAL Delivery Vehicle for Freespace.

Like the change Axem.

Just out of curiosity, is there enough room for a Herc I in there?
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Axem on August 06, 2006, 07:00:37 pm
Aye. I designed it with the Herc I in mind, as it was the largest Terran FS1 fighter I could think of. The first few pics show a few Herc I's inside it and being launched. It could probably also fit most FS2 fighters as well.
Title: Re: Another silly carrier
Post by: Mars on August 06, 2006, 08:40:12 pm
Sorry, should have looked... I imagine an Ares would have issues getting in there