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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Wild Fragaria on July 24, 2006, 02:17:46 pm
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This is just awsome :D
Nature News Published online: 21 July 2006; | doi:10.1038/news060717-18
You're only as old as your genes
A fingerprint of gene activity could reveal the true 'youthfulness' of our kidneys, hearts and muscle, regardless of our biological age. The technique might one day be used to find healthy organs for transplants or to warn us of impending disease.
It's hard to tell, particularly on a cellular level, whether a young and healthy body conceals a withering heart — or conversely, whether an old man has a vigorous ticker like that of a younger man.
Stuart Kim of Stanford University Medical Center, California, says that a simple genetic test might do the trick. He and his colleagues have found a set of genes whose activity reveals how well organs are operating, regardless of their owner's actual age.
The team analysed the activity of thousands of genes in 81 muscle samples from people aged between 16 and 89. They pulled out a set of 250 genes whose activity goes markedly up or down with age.
When they compared the activity of these genes with the muscle fitness of individuals, measured by the size of their muscle fibers, they found that the genetic profile, rather than a person's age in years, was a more accurate indicator of fitness.
The speed with which our cells and bodies deteriorate is determined partly by the genes we inherit from our parents and partly by the ravages of living. These factors can change the rate at which certain genes manufacture proteins, and other aspects of the cell's machinery. Some studies, for example, have shown that the ends of chromosomes, called telomeres, decay over time and do so faster in those who indulge in unhealthy activities such as smoking.
Kim's team found one 64-year-old man who had a pattern of gene activity more like that of a younger person. Indeed, under the microscope, his muscle appeared young; it contained bigger 'fast twitch' fibers that are good for sprinting and more prevalent in young muscle. The findings are reported in the journal PLoS Genetics.
In an earlier study, the same group detected a 78-year-old woman with a kidney more like that of a centenarian, according to her genetic profile and an inspection of the tissue under the microscope.
The researchers found that aging affects some of the same genes across many different tissue types and in many different animals. One group of genes, which is involved in generating energy in the cell's mitochondria, quiet down with age in human muscle, kidney and brain tissue, and also in aging mice and flies, even though these animals have very different lifespans.
It may be that this pathway is a weak spot in the cell that is particularly vulnerable to aging, Kim says.
Kim says that such techniques could one day be used to identify donor organs that are normally ruled out because of the donor's age but may actually be in good working order. "We could open up a huge new pool of donors," Kim says, who is planning a study to test this idea.
In future, a routine blood test at the doctor's office could also reveal the true working condition of organs, allowing patients to modify their lifestyle or diet to rejuvenate their bodies.
But to do this researchers will need to find a way to gauge the activity of an organ's genes from molecules in the blood rather than from a tissue sample, which is difficult to obtain.
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Very interesting. The concept of being able to use bloodwork to quickly diagnose organ condition would massively improve health, I think; it'd make it easy for routine checkups to be very comprehensive without needing to be invasive.
I'm wondering, is this connected / related to the genetic age of Dolly the (cloned) sheep? I'm sure I remember a story about that animal inheriting the aging characteristics of its 'parent'.
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I thought this was going to be a thread discussing our ages.. :p
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Yeah, me too.
But yeah, this is very fascinating.
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il be 25 in a couple weeks :D
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I'll be 30 in about 16 years...
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Wow, I knew I felt old.
I'll be 30 in about 16 years...
Freshman?
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:p
yup :(
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I'll be thirty in -3 years! :D
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Lucky number 13 years until I get to 30.
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I'm 21, but usually feel more like a bitter 80.
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17
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i feel like an old geezer really.
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I'll be 30 in about 16 years...
Same here.
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I'm wondering, is this connected / related to the genetic age of Dolly the (cloned) sheep? I'm sure I remember a story about that animal inheriting the aging characteristics of its 'parent'.
That was down to Dolly inherting the telomeres from the animal she was cloned from rather than getting a new set as she would have if she'd been born naturally.
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Personally, I think cloning is just downright creepy.
I don't think we as humans have the right to play god.
But hey, whatever those genetic dudes want.
:blah:
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Personally, I think cloning is just downright creepy.
I don't think we as humans have the right to play god.
But hey, whatever those genetic dudes want.
:blah:
We play god every time we have a steak.........
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Personally, I think cloning is just downright creepy.
I don't think we as humans have the right to play god.
But hey, whatever those genetic dudes want.
:blah:
We play god every time we have a steak.........
Nah thats just the circle of life, Cows eat the grass, we eat the cows and............Hmmmm, Nope thats about it :D
<< 24 (25 next apr)
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Ancient.
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Old enough to know better, but young enough not to care!
As old as my tongue, and a few years older than my teeth!
Alright 33! :eek2:
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I just turned 21 earlier this month.
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Personally, I think cloning is just downright creepy.
I don't think we as humans have the right to play god.
But hey, whatever those genetic dudes want.
:blah:
We play god every time we have a steak.........
...... or play black and white. :P :D
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Yeah, I guess you're right.
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LOL We play God all the time. Every time an artist paints a picture or a modeller makes a ship or an 8 year old child makes a lego model. What are they doing but moving their hands across the void and creating something. We all have that urge built in, I think. ;)
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OK, then I'm using my godlike powers to create this number:
22
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Personally, I think cloning is just downright creepy.
I don't think we as humans have the right to play god.
But hey, whatever those genetic dudes want.
:blah:
We play god every time we have a steak.........
Guess I play god two or three days a week then.
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i played god yesterday and i make a dman good steak :D
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LOL We play God all the time. Every time an artist paints a picture or a modeller makes a ship or an 8 year old child makes a lego model. What are they doing but moving their hands across the void and creating something. We all have that urge built in, I think. ;)
Good catch. ;)
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LOL We play God all the time. Every time an artist paints a picture or a modeller makes a ship or an 8 year old child makes a lego model. What are they doing but moving their hands across the void and creating something. We all have that urge built in, I think. ;)
I wouldn't mind a bit of smiting, mind you.
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I'm wondering, is this connected / related to the genetic age of Dolly the (cloned) sheep? I'm sure I remember a story about that animal inheriting the aging characteristics of its 'parent'.
That was down to Dolly inherting the telomeres from the animal she was cloned from rather than getting a new set as she would have if she'd been born naturally.
No sure the article is related to Dolly the cloned sheep. I just can't get over how neat that actually is, to check if the organs are good at the cellular level. We and living things are just a big, well organized cluster of cells (which is built by lots and lots of molecules) :D
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The article isn't but the point Aldo was making was that Dolly was around 6 years old at birth IIRC because all the telomeres in the cell she was cloned from already degraded. Starting from a newly fertilised cell resets that clock but cloning doesn't.
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Bear with me but in metal gear they harked at that when they mentioned vintage stock being taken from big boss. :)
Rejuvenation of dead/dying materials may be feasible in the future, but as you say any efforts (until the scientist dude from hitman comes about) to clone successful A1 Supah beings will proably Phail with ripley6 style results...
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Personally, I think cloning is just downright creepy.
I don't think we as humans have the right to play god.
But hey, whatever those genetic dudes want.
:blah:
We play god every time we have a steak.........
Guess I play god two or three days a week then.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........... STEEEEEEAAAAAAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Pork steak is the best. It's baconated steak
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lol! :lol:
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM .................... RIBS!!!!!!!!