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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: SS-Blue Lion on November 17, 2001, 08:45:00 am
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I've been thinking about this for a while and I'm pretty sure it would work but you never know. This has to do with something I've been thinking about doing for a while, but I wanna get some opinions on some basic stuff before I try it.
Do you think pilots in Freespace had their own ships? Not that they owned them but they used the same one every mission. Like Alpha 1 had his own HercII, his own Ursa and so on. Or was it just running over and jumping in the first one you saw?
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Hmmmm, I'd have to say it was more like a mix. On some missions, you don't have a choice. But you are a member of a squadron, which would have its logo painted on the side of the ship. So, most likely you'd change ships if you changed squadrons.
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I think I know what you mean. Like in Star Wars, Wedge Antilles always uses his own X-Wing with maybe his name painted there.
I would have to say that in FreeSpace 2, it could be like that. Until you get shot to bits.
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mmh, then each pilot would have one ship of each kind... a herc2, an erinyes... don't you think it's a bit much? I think ythey have one maybe (an herc or a myrm, why not), the others are lend. Anyway, you can't compare with real pilots. A pilot won't do recon, bombing, space superiority etc by himself. Each pilot is specialized.
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That's what I'm trying to figure out, would the fact that you have access to a large number of ships mean there is just a large fighter bay with x number of HercII's, Y number of Perseus's and so on. I mean if you get yours really shot up, do they give you a new one? Or do you wait till yours is fixed?
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I reckon each squad has a certain number of ships, each pilot having a 'preferred' ship personalised to their preferences (weapons, etc)..... and a number of reserve ships. If an ace pilot's ship is badly damaged, then they can take a reserve or a 'lesser' pilots one - like a Formula 1 team operates with spare cars (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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I suppose they give you a new one, they can't really afford to have a pilot grounded, I suppose
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The reason I'm asking is because it has to do with a concept I've been drawing out and I want to know if it's feasible. It makes more sense if pilots have their own fighters, but it could work either way.
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Likely the ships are assigned to their ground crews, and the pilots have to 'sign them out' for a mission and 'sign them back in' when they return. Also I'd imagine that they'd likely have more pilots than operational craft anyways and rotate flight crews in shifts (to allow those guys to do things like... sleep (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif))
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Ok thanks guys, I think that's probaby what would go on. Time to get back to drawing these ships, oh I will eventually want someone to mod these for me, as I have no skills at it :P
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how do they do it in the real life(TM) military?
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I believe that pilots are normally assigned to one aircraft.
[This message has been edited by Shrike (edited 11-17-2001).]
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But a pilot wouldn't have a F-15, an F-16 an A-10 and a F-117a. But they do keep their one jet, so I assume it carries over.
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the point is a F117 pilot is a F117 pilot, he won't fly a F15 coz there's need of an escort. FS2, for gameplay reasons, allows you to fly very different ships. Maybe it's why the infamous Alpha1 is so good? Coz he's in fact a multitude of different pilots? (I know, a multitude of different pilots would not keep the same medals (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) )
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That's what I mean, real life can't be used as an example. So I guess we just assume
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Maybe the techncians rotate in and out, and the tech group gets the medals.
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Ok, so I got this idea that I'm working on that's related to this and I was wondering if there was a modder who wanted to lend a hand, nothing big and it's not a rush job. I'd ask Aldo, but that man has way too much to do already.
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Definitive Answer: Alpha 1 is the only pilot ever(tm) to change squadrons at least once a week.
If the GTVA is anything like our AF/Navy, the pilots living in our PCs would be assigned to certain squadrons for much longer terms, and so would probably be flying the same class of fighter during that long term. In the Ravens, for example, I'd imagine each pilot had his/her own HercII which they used on a regular basis, had their name and # on the side and what have you. But if they were suddenly calld upon to go bomb a Shivan destroyer (unlikely (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)), they'd maybe 'borrow' a bunch of bombers from someone else (though there's no good reason why the bomber's own pilots wouldn't be flying the mission themselves, except for the (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) God of Scriptwriting and General Shoddy Logic™)
Rant over.
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Originally posted by Carl:
how do they do it in the real life(TM) military?
First of all, hold donw ALT and type 0153 on the numeric keypad to get ™. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Secondly, don't ask me, as I was only in Comabt Engineering, not the Air Force... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer:
Definitive Answer: Alpha 1 is the only pilot ever(tm) to change squadrons at least once a week.
If the GTVA is anything like our AF/Navy, the pilots living in our PCs would be assigned to certain squadrons for much longer terms, and so would probably be flying the same class of fighter during that long term.
Pilots besides Alpha1, Don't fly in longer terms ( most of them ) because they usaly die on there first mission.
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At Osiris HAF (see latest render archives) has a number of aircrafts of different types Hercs Mrk II mMrk III F-440 Heriners, Sekh's the are all available to fly at a moment notice. The only thing which remains personalized to each pilot is the cockpit interior. Each set up with controls and seat preference to the pilot allocated for that and the whole block being modular, is adaptable to any ship. Pre flight prep.
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Originally posted by darkage:
Pilots besides Alpha1, Don't fly in longer terms ( most of them ) because they usaly die on there first mission.
Oh. I thought they were called the Twenty Minueters because that's how long their first few flights lasted...
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Originally posted by Blue Lion:
Ok, so I got this idea that I'm working on that's related to this and I was wondering if there was a modder who wanted to lend a hand, nothing big and it's not a rush job. I'd ask Aldo, but that man has way too much to do already.
I'm reskinning the Claymore Mk.2 for Black Ops, if you need a ship with room for a name I could leave some space for it.