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Title: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 01, 2006, 06:57:39 pm
Well, after some reading and playing around with Blender, I finally started a ship. It doesn't have a name and it's not textured (that's why you see mostly a dark silhouette in the picture), but it'll come someday! :lol: It's a dropship. Altho it may look small on the picture, it's a heavy ship with big engines (which are mostly hidden by the wings). Originally, it had only 2 wings, but I decided to put up another pair since it was looking odd. It created a similarity with the Geat Fox. :p

(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/newworldbornWShip.png)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Dark Hunter on August 01, 2006, 07:10:32 pm
The ship looks good, and that big blue thing behind it looks even better.  :p

What is that anyway? It's not any warp or explosion effect I've seen...
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 01, 2006, 07:13:39 pm
That big blue bang is a huge supernova. A new world is born  :D It's done with a custom supernova in GIMP - added a mask to modify the shape of the nova then added some flames that are kinda "engraved" in the whole thing.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Dark Hunter on August 01, 2006, 07:17:49 pm
It is very pretty.  :yes:
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: pecenipicek on August 01, 2006, 07:35:49 pm
hmm, nice. me likes.

as for the ship, post a clay render or a wireframe for us to be able to judge.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 01, 2006, 09:26:47 pm
There ya go!
(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/perspective.jpg)
(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/frontview.jpg)

Ps: the model isn't finished yet
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Tyrian on August 02, 2006, 05:45:30 pm
That supernova effect, with a little modding, could be made into a kick *** explosion effect in game...

Now the ship:  Looks pretty good, but it bears a strong resemblence to a songbird...
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Dark Hunter on August 02, 2006, 08:00:29 pm
Beware the Canary-class fighter!  :lol:



Give it some incredible capabilities and people really will fear it, no matter what it may look like.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 02, 2006, 08:18:33 pm
That supernova effect, with a little modding, could be made into a kick *** explosion effect in game...

Now the ship:  Looks pretty good, but it bears a strong resemblence to a songbird...

If you want a XCF (I could do a PSD too, but you would loose the layer modes) with a sample explosion, which is really simple to do in GIMP, I could do it. But I don't know a single thing on how to make explosion effects in FS2.

As for the ship, I know the shape is very similar to a bird. Maybe not a songbird, but I don't remember the name of the one I'm thinking of. Either a turtle-dove or the ones with a huge mouth.

Beware the Canary-class fighter!  :lol:

Give it some incredible capabilities and people really will fear it, no matter what it may look like.

Canary-class fighter lol! Funny lol! But it's not a fighter, it's a dropship. :p

I must say there's still much to do on the model, rouding edges, adding detail, weapons and stuff like that.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: pecenipicek on August 02, 2006, 08:51:10 pm
reminds me of my first few models :D keep up the good work mate :) as for the gimp file, i'd like to have a look at it, mind sending it over as its native format?
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 02, 2006, 09:43:44 pm
reminds me of my first few models :D keep up the good work mate :) as for the gimp file, i'd like to have a look at it, mind sending it over as its native format?

PMed it.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: pecenipicek on August 03, 2006, 08:28:26 am
and after some minor photoshop magick, here it is :D
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.jpg)
layer ordering in gimp and photoshop is a bit different and all, but gimp when saving to pdf leaves the layers undivided, so its no problem, you can set the layer order anyways
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Mefustae on August 03, 2006, 09:28:53 am
and after some minor photoshop magick, here it is :D
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.jpg)
layer ordering in gimp and photoshop is a bit different and all, but gimp when saving to pdf leaves the layers undivided, so its no problem, you can set the layer order anyways
Ooh! Ooh!! Let's make that the new subspace effect!!
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 03, 2006, 09:45:35 am
Looks sharp! I know GIMP is able to save as PSD and keep the layer order, but you loose the layer modes  :(. You should try to find the similar modes in Photoshop to have the same effect as in GIMP.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: pecenipicek on August 03, 2006, 10:16:56 am
you got the mode additive, right, i think its one of the overlay modes, pin light or vivid light, i'll experiment some more with it.

as for making it a subspace effect... umm... well, i could try to animate it via rotation...


not going to work as predicted tho from my experience...
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 03, 2006, 11:40:42 am
There was also "divide" mode if I remember on one of the flames layer.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Tyrian on August 03, 2006, 12:06:48 pm
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.jpg)

Send that over to the Upgrade Project.  Maybe they can turn it into a subspace or explosion effect.  That would look reeeeeaaaal sexy in game...   ;7
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 03, 2006, 12:16:39 pm
Here's how the original XCF looks like (but it's scaled down)

(http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8305/sampleflareoi8.th.png) (http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sampleflareoi8.png)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Dark Hunter on August 03, 2006, 12:36:17 pm
I love how everyone is more interested in the shiny bckground than in the new ship. :lol:
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 03, 2006, 02:31:47 pm
I love how everyone is more interested in the shiny bckground than in the new ship. :lol:

Hahaha that's true! But when I post the updates of the ship, the interest will surely go back to the ship :nod:.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: pecenipicek on August 03, 2006, 04:58:32 pm
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.jpg)

Send that over to the Upgrade Project.  Maybe they can turn it into a subspace or explosion effect.  That would look reeeeeaaaal sexy in game...   ;7
i'll try to make it as an effect myself, for personal use if Pyro doesnt mind? I'll make it publicly availible too if anyone wants :)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 03, 2006, 10:39:40 pm
No, I don't mind. But if it's ever released to the public a little mention would be nice. :yes:
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: pecenipicek on August 04, 2006, 03:07:36 am
no prob mate, also congrats on getting on the TAP team :D

looking forward to working with you :)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 04, 2006, 10:29:29 pm
no prob mate, also congrats on getting on the TAP team :D

looking forward to working with you :)

Thx! I think it will be a really nice experience!

Here, front view updated.
(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/frontview.jpg)

New canons on the front and new turret guns. The bottom section has now its own wings and trusters so it can fly by itself for a short moment when dropped. Added the holding claws too.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Cobra on August 05, 2006, 12:46:54 am
(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/newworldbornWShip.png)

that's my new desktop. :eek2:
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Tyrian on August 05, 2006, 08:59:34 am
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/926/sampleflarexb1.jpg)

Send that over to the Upgrade Project.  Maybe they can turn it into a subspace or explosion effect.  That would look reeeeeaaaal sexy in game...   ;7
i'll try to make it as an effect myself, for personal use if Pyro doesnt mind? I'll make it publicly availible too if anyone wants :)

Could you make an explosion effect and a subspace effect?  I think it would make a good "special" explosion.  For example, a unique ship (Sath, for instance) explodes, that would be the explosion effect, rather than the regular one.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 05, 2006, 12:18:16 pm
Updated the perspective and front views (press refresh it you still see the old ones) and added a ventral view. I changed the materials and started smotthing the ship.

(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/perspective.jpg)
(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/frontview.jpg)
(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/ventral.png)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Jeryko on August 05, 2006, 12:58:52 pm
Here's how the original XCF looks like (but it's scaled down)

(http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8305/sampleflareoi8.th.png) (http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sampleflareoi8.png)

Is there a higher-res version?  I'd like to use it for my desktop, otherwise I user the other one  :yes:
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 05, 2006, 02:02:58 pm
Yes, there is.
Right click'n save (http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/sampleFlare.png)

Tell me when you get I'll remove it because it's heavy.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Jeryko on August 05, 2006, 03:11:03 pm
Got it, thank you !  :D
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 05, 2006, 03:17:39 pm
Np!

And uhh... how's the model now?  :nervous:
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: pecenipicek on August 05, 2006, 04:10:51 pm
hm, well, the model is improving, but it still... well, the basic shape is still too basic, no matter what you add to the ship, what thingadoodles, its still going to be screaming basic, so you might do something to... well, smooth the ship a wee bit or streamline it...
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Tyrian on August 05, 2006, 09:15:05 pm
I would maybe change the cockpit to something other than purple and make it more translucent.  Maybe consider rounding off those sharp edges, especially on the area near the cockpit and the leading and trailing edges on the wings.  They make the ship look too geometric.

However, that glow effect in the background is god-like.  I just drool looking at it.  I still think it should be made into an explosion or subspace effect.  Maybe both.

*Goes on for pages about the background* :D
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 05, 2006, 10:36:59 pm
Changed a bit the cockpit, tryed to streamline the ship, add a couple of details and make a quick background to show the ship. And I will change that purple later 0 I try to make the reflections work ok with the material. Enjoy!

(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/hummingBirdDropship.png)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Dark Hunter on August 06, 2006, 01:20:55 am
Hummingbird class.. :yes2: :lol: :yes:
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 06, 2006, 10:07:34 pm
Heh sounds better than Canari class eh  ;)! Here... take a look a the ship, without its cargo!

(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/withoutCargo.png)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Tyrian on August 07, 2006, 10:39:26 am
That looks cool.  Maybe add a couple of turrets to the underside.  That way it could be a dropship or a gunship.
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 16, 2006, 06:27:08 pm
Here are the most recent shots. Still tweaked the design a bit!

(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/bottomNight.png)
(http://pmxa.spouing.com/external/beautyFront.png)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: pecenipicek on August 16, 2006, 06:57:34 pm
mmmm, nice, now you're gettin somewhere :D
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on August 30, 2006, 08:33:47 pm
Complete makeover! Still lots of work to do on the bottom/cargo part, which isn't done yet, and details to add. But oh well, I hope that you like the refit!

(http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7679/newshapedropshiptn0.th.png) (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newshapedropshiptn0.png)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on September 05, 2006, 07:45:20 pm
Updated!
(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4238/dropshipbottomperspectivewv5.th.png) (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dropshipbottomperspectivewv5.png)
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2742/dropshipfrontperspectivesr7.th.png) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dropshipfrontperspectivesr7.png)

More details about the ship to come...
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Dark Hunter on September 05, 2006, 09:24:49 pm
Better and better... keep it up!
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Pyro MX on November 23, 2006, 08:20:01 pm
Little progress, I think it's near the finish line... If only the UV mapping could go better (I'm a newb at this lol), I would add textures lol! But for now, I tweak the materials.

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2027/hummingbirdwhitebz0.th.png) (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hummingbirdwhitebz0.png)
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/66/hummingbirdwhiterearpr2.th.png) (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hummingbirdwhiterearpr2.png)
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2664/hummingbirdwhitesideqj2.th.png) (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hummingbirdwhitesideqj2.png)
Title: Re: First time in 3D
Post by: Iron Wolf on November 24, 2006, 02:41:01 pm
Pwetty.