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Hosted Projects - Standalone => Wing Commander Saga => Topic started by: dragon1 on August 05, 2006, 03:07:51 pm
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Could you guys please release something? Anything would be fine, including models that can be fredded into user made missions.
It doesn't have to be perfect, something is always better than nothing.
Thanks
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Well I've got 3 canon based fighters thats available for use. That might help you while your waiting for them to release the real stuff :) [crossbow, vampire, pirhana] (unfortunately none from wc3 era, but the crossbow would probably still be in use at that time and the excalibur/thunderbolt are retrofits and not canon)
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Thanks, but it really isn't for me. My previous post is for all of us.
Some of us have been waiting for years with breathless anticipation for something other than screen shots.
I had once brought up realesing in a manner like the Babylon Project, and it was rejected (with a rather rude snub towards that project). I want to see this project succeed, I want to be able to write about just how cool it is, or how much like Wing Commander it is. All I am saying is that we need *something* to write and rave about. If the SAGA team is waiting for the project to be perfect, nothing will ever get released. So what if there are a few bugs, release a patch update later.
How about a demo prologue- 2-3 missions + 6 or so ships + minimal music and SFX + no voice acting and expansive animations?
I have supported Saga through and through, even when others have not, even when it was more convinient not to. I still want to support you guys.
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Thanks, but it really isn't for me. My previous post is for all of us.
Some of us have been waiting for years with breathless anticipation for something other than screen shots.
I had once brought up realesing in a manner like the Babylon Project, and it was rejected (with a rather rude snub towards that project). I want to see this project succeed, I want to be able to write about just how cool it is, or how much like Wing Commander it is. All I am saying is that we need *something* to write and rave about. If the SAGA team is waiting for the project to be perfect, nothing will ever get released. So what if there are a few bugs, release a patch update later.
How about a demo prologue- 2-3 missions + 6 or so ships + minimal music and SFX + no voice acting and expansive animations?
I have supported Saga through and through, even when others have not, even when it was more convinient not to. I still want to support you guys.
Being the former project leader for said project...it took us...mmm something like 4 years before we released anything ourselves. So WC: Saga is doing quite the fine job of keeping up the tradition. I'm sure they will have some offerings available prior to the finished product. They are doing such a quality job...I don't think anyone will be disappointed.
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Dragon,
I just wanted to make sure that it was clear is that what we are currently putting the spit and polish on right now is in fact a demo prologue campaign with 5 missions plus several simulator missions (which I find every bit as enjoyable as the campaign missions). As our progress reports have indicated, we are expecting a release fairly soon. I'm not at liberty to discuss exactly when, but it is coming in short order.
Also, as a sign of good faith to all of our fans (and as we mentioned in another thread), we will be releasing a model pack with ships that are ready to go in the SCP engine (but which are not being used in the prologue). That will be coming very soon indeed, and hopefully will help to satisfy a bit of that "thirst."
So, you shall indeed get your models, and the prologue campaign will not be too far behind. I hope this helps. :)
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If the SAGA team is waiting for the project to be perfect, nothing will ever get released. So what if there are a few bugs, release a patch update later.
This is certainly a good point here, and often one of our problems. We already have to simply say NO now, even if we could do better. But on the other hand, in those years we build the game we all improved our skills in modelling, texturing and all the other stuff, so that we have overworked quite a lot of stuff in the past
Let me make a litte longer answer here, for you and all the other people still waiting, so you have an update what's going on :) I truly understand your feelings, I also hate it when I have to wait long for a new game to come out, or even hear that is has been delayed. Believe me, we would all be more than happy if we could release the game tomorrow, but we simply can't. I could bore you with a lot of reasons and technical explanations, but that wíll not make it come out quicker, i'm afraid.
In short form, we have decided to switch to the most recent available SCP-Version, since it has a lot improvements the old version we used didn't had. Those improvement directly influence the gameplay and the possibility for the mission building, so we decided to take on that step (Not to mention we had 2 unsolved problems with the old exe). However, we now have to upgrade quite some data, and still have a few technical difficulties (i.e. with the installer and a graphic problem). The other stuff is done, models, missions, graphics, voices etc.
How about a demo prologue- 2-3 missions + 6 or so ships + minimal music and SFX + no voice acting and expansive animations?
In fact, that's why we decided to do the prologue first :) It has a little more stuff than what you have written above, but much less than the final game we are aiming for. However, after the prologue is done and we can build upon it, we hope that the next step will go faster. (And I also have to say up front, that I'm the one preventing us from doing a episode release later, I want to deliver a finished game.)
But once the prologue is done, people will be able to do their own missions, which will deliver people something to play away the waiting time :) Unfortunately we still cannot give an ETA yet. It will be this year, but when, we do not know exactly. We don't want to promise something, and will then be forced to brake it again because of something unexpectable happened.
We can only ask you people for a little more patience. Thanks :)
P.S. As for Sphynx's "fairly soon", like I said, we hope, but we can't promise :)
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Maybe I should just start saying "soon" always in quotations. :)
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I keep telling everyone, (who would listen anyway), that we aim for Winter 2666 :)
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Thanks team for the responses. I still have faith in WC Saga, that is why I am here. I don't want to seem over critical or demanding. Just patiently waiting.
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No problem. I totally get how you are feeling. That's why I joined the team in the first place, I wanted to help them get it done so I could play it. :)
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And we are paying you enough. Now you can buy yourself a Ferrari :)
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Interesting, so why do I only get paid in food and rabatt-coupons ? :)
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Wow, a Ferrari. From what you are saying, I don't think your checks have made it to me for the last year. Could you send them again? :)
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Lol if I see one more "fairly soon" I am going to smash my head into a wall :)
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Look, there is a "fairly soon" on a wall behind you :)
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Oh, that's going to be messy. Somebody better call 911. :)
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hey guys,
i'm just a little curious about this project. In fact, quite interested! :nod:
Just recently my parents have sold their house, and i had to visit to help out. During the pack I discovered a few old boxes of mine. Inside one were copies of WC3 & 4 which I had played with compassion back in the 90s! I used to have all 1-4 but i must have lost the first two. I managed to find a guy on Ebay selling every WC game ever, so i'm gonna grab them all again. :yes:
I loved the story line and the gameplay, which i really never found in any other space-sim released. I was never a fan of trading games, and I especially liked the film sections with Mark Hamill and crew.
How similar is this project going to be to the original games? with regards to story, characters, gameplay etc?
The main thing that excites me will be playing a game so similar to the originals with the updated technologies we now have since 10 years ago. :D I'm going to have to build dual-boot into my laptop to run the older games! :ick:
I realise you guys are working on this project in your own time, and that will take time! And I found you mention a prologue release this year, but I would love to know if you have any idea when you'll be releasing the complete game. Do you think it will be next year? or the year after? :confused:
Anyway, good work lads, and I eagerly await the release of WCS. ;7
jammin.
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To answere some of your questions.
Similarities:
Gameplay ->
As close as possible to WC3 since the story will take place during that time. Their will be some little additions/changes because of the engine but basicly you can aspect to return to the good old WC3.
Characters ->
Well it should be logical that we don't have the budged to hire any of the original actors or others..beside haveing all the props and costums. They still might appear in the form of textmessages...maybe even some voiceacting extracted from WC3/4...we will see ^_^
Story ->
The story is fitting into the WC3 timeline but is still telling the story of other people. While Blair on board the Victory you will follow another path...let it be a surprise.
Tech ->
We will use whatever the coders do with their magic and what is possible for us to do...timewise and from our abilitys. Look at the newsupdate we post from time to time.
Releasedate ->
When its done ^_^
We hope to get it done till.........but who knows. I, for sure, won't say, ever, any releasedate again till I got the final version on my HD.
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I am confident that we will be able to release the full game in winter 2666.
Cheers!
Tolwyn
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thanks for the info!
@Tolwyn - I hope the powers that be bring out that anti-ageing technology soon then! 2666 is a little while off! :shaking:
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I'm sure by then we'll have a patch ready for those of us elders who have the reflexes of a houseplant. :lol:
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And I found you mention a prologue release this year,
jammin.
hey, wasn't it mention from 2005? or 2004? we all hope fo a release this year but... as far as i know 2666 is only offitial date for anything
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It's a joke. :) 2669 is the year in WC fiction in which the action from Saga takes place.
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Well, if you guys release then, make sure you back all your stuff extensively in case you all get toasted or strontium poisioning as a result of the Battle of Earth.
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You know this topic is really starting to piss me off. When I occasionally check this board, I see a topic called "Release".
YAY! :eek:
WTF. Where's the link? :wtf:
Oh no! It's just a whining thread. :ick:
Delete it. Now. :mad2:
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You know this topic is really starting to piss me off. When I occasionally check this board, I see a topic called "Release".
YAY! :eek:
WTF. Where's the link? :wtf:
Oh no! It's just a whining thread. :ick:
Delete it. Now. :mad2:
That is too true. It seems like all too many hosted fourms are flooded with "Are you dead?" or "When is there going to be a release?" topics. There have only been a few that don't have at least 4 or 5 on the first page.
All the people who want a release are all the same, "I really want a release, you should release it already, no I'm not like those other *****es who want a release, I want a release."
And then there is the " WTF LawL, are you guys dead or something? There hasn't been any major releases in an entire 3 hours! No, I know you have lives, but your WRONG!!! You should really not have a life and work on this project 24/7."
And then there are those people who make topics such as, "Leave the Dev team alone!" and they say stuf like "oh man, you should leave them alone, they can't waddle around through 86 pages o spam everyday reading every *****es complaints and suggestions, do you really think that anyone has that kind of time? I mean who wants to read 3 paragraphs of people wanting a release, complaining about deadness, wanting x amount of loop missions or y new fighters and z BoE missions, I mean thats really annoying, all that spam is. There is so much of it too! They just keep ranting on and on and on about the same fricking stuff, too! How do they even have the time to wite it, I mean it would take a while to write 86 pages of anything, much less 86 pages of SPAM, and repetitive spam at that. They just keep ranting on and on and on about the same fricking stuff, too! How do they even have the time to wite it, I mean it would take a while to write 86 pages of anything, much less 86 pages of SPAM, and repetitive spam at that. They just keep ranting on and on and on about the same fricking stuff, too! How do they even have the time to wite it, I mean it would take a while to write 86 pages of anything, much less 86 pages of SPAM, and repetitive spam at that. They just keep ranting on and on and on about the same fricking stuff, too! How do they even have the time to wite it, I mean it would take a while to write 86 pages of anything, much less 86 pages of SPAM, and repetitive spam at that."
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first I thought you had too much bier... :) Well, I'll wait till the pirate filter is out of circulation because I can't understand half of what you are saying :D
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Oktoberfest is early?
Anyways, kill this thread i got my hopes up then.....
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Oktoberfest always starts in September ... but only those zany Bavarians know why :nervous:
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I hate Oktoberfest. Maybe because it is only 300m away from my house :)
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I hate Oktoberfest. Maybe because it is only 300m away from my house :)
I can believe you hate it Doesn't it suck to kick out the drunken corpses out of your house entry each morning ? :D
And 7,50 € for a beer ? :shaking: For the money you need to get drunk there, you can sleep a whole week in a bordell (not that I have any experience in that, I just wanted to mention it :) )
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I hate Oktoberfest. Maybe because it is only 300m away from my house :)
For the money you need to get drunk there, you can sleep a whole week in a bordell (not that I have any experience in that, I just wanted to mention it :) )
Is it that cheap? Hey, I am coming to your town (not that I need it, but...) :)
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:lol:
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I think I earned me right for a few creature comforts :D
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And 7,50 € for a beer ? :shaking: For the money you need to get drunk there, you can sleep a whole week in a bordell (not that I have any experience in that, I just wanted to mention it :) )
well they are pretty big beers they drink at O.fest!... :P
but the thing that always fascinated me was how those cute little bavarian girls carried all those HUGE jugs all over the place!! :eek2: (and i'm talking about the beers here!... :rolleyes: ... )
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Bovarian girls + Jugs = super happy good fun time
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No Oktoberfest! Work on WCS!!! ;7
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Beer helps people get creative, Let em drink........
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I hate Oktoberfest. Maybe because it is only 300m away from my house :)
I don't think there is any threat of O.fest getting in the way here...
in fact, why don't we all go to O.fest, get totally smashed, pickup cute bavarian girls, and all sleep outside Tolwyn's door so he can't leave his flat until WCS is finished!! ;7
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Really good idea!
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I'm up for that, we can just move one of the tents, maybe the HP tent....... And singthe Cheers song.
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now we are really brainstorming!! :yes:
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:welcome:
@ Dingo, just in case.............
If anyone asaks, we are roleplaying as Maniac when his squad got wiped out and he got very very drunk. :nod:
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but the thing that always fascinated me was how those cute little bavarian girls carried all those HUGE jugs all over the place!! :eek2: (and i'm talking about the beers here!... :rolleyes: ... )
Simple :) The glasses are for 1 liter (is this a english measure-unit ??) each , but the glasses are half full with foam :D
in fact, why don't we all go to O.fest, get totally smashed, pickup cute bavarian girls, and all sleep outside Tolwyn's door so he can't leave his flat until WCS is finished!! ;7
Good Idea, I second that :P
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in fact, why don't we all go to O.fest, get totally smashed, pickup cute bavarian girls, and all sleep outside Tolwyn's door so he can't leave his flat until WCS is finished!! ;7
Good Idea, I second that :P
but first we'll need to kidnap the entire team and lock them up with Tolwyn :D
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*runs*
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fat chance, I am on vacatıon :)
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If you're going to extract audio from the WC games, we really need the "Yoohoo! Mr. Ugly!" taunt from Prophecy. ;7
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AFAIK we will not extract much except the kilrathi sounds. For the terran pilots we have our own voice actors. But indeed, majestros lines were quite funny. A shame WCP didn't continued beyond SO, I would have like to seen this character a few more times.
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Maybe you could just have someone record that line, then? I'd be willing. I have the game. I bet I gould get pretty close.
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Depends on Tolwyn, if we still need pilots you can send us some samples :)
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is it released yet?... is it released yet?... is it released yet?...
just keepin this thread on track! ;)
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Beer,?
Oh yeah....Release, Whats the ETA.
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2666 :D
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2666 :D
winter 2666, do you, young man?
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Blimey, I could enlist in the TCN before the release......
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yeah, but we're gonna be buggered for space sim training! :doubt:
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By then we'll be living the Saga so the mod will be redundant..
*subtle motivational hint* :lol: :) :nervous:
^insert joke tags
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*subtle motivational hint* :lol: :) :nervous:
Taken. But luckily we can still polish this game for the next 660 years :)
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I've faith that i'll play it before i pop off this mortal coil :D
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2666 :D
Hey, that´s not funny...I´m getting really nervous, when I read such posts... ;)
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Their determined to get it done before Duke Nukem Forever. :D
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Its called that, because thats how long it'll take :lol:
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or should I say Duke Nukem For-never.
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The Duke is comming next year, so hurry up!
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Oh Saga will be release a few years ago then? :lol:
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you busy bees have anything to brag about? Haven't heard from you guys in a little while... just checkin to make sure someone's harddrive didnt crash or anything.
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We are working hard...progress is their but their isnt anything special to report so that might be the reason why you didnt heared much about us lately.
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No News is good news, It means nothings gone wrong. :D
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Apart from fixing minor bugs we are waiting for the Theora support, which is still slated for 3.6.9 (Theora support and the new FS2NetD code are actually holding up 3.6.9 at the moment).
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Hey, so i was excited to see this since deciding to keep quiet until i heard something promising.... ;)
So, that was end of November, does this mean we will have the Prologue release in time for Xmas??? ;7
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Gah, dang it. I saw the title of this thread in the little box to the right of the WCS hosted forum link and I got all excited :(
EDIT: they'll finish when they finish. The longer it takes, the less of an excuse they have if it's bad. (which I'm sure it won't be, of course ;) )
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Just a quick update for you folks. The development process is finished and we are in the process of testing RC1 (Codename "Whistler"). There is still no release date yet, because we are bound to the 3.6.9 installment of the SCP :D